[DoodleBob]

In the Supplemental Material in Table S17. Median duration of trials in days, it shows the respective median for Vaccines (Infectious Disease) across Phases 1-4 of 714, 827, 798, and 900 days - about nine years.

As I've said repeatedly, if people want to take the COVID19 shots because of comorbidities or age etc., then that's a personal choice and I'll never give you grief.

At the same time, there should be acknowledgement that these shots were released with virtually no clinical trials being undertaken. And yet, we are supposed to ignore hard data that only about one-third of all vaccines make it through four phases of clinical trials, and that it take nine years at the median to obtain approval.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

POS is the appropriate acronym for the mRNA and adenovirus jabs.

[blueplum]

maybe they used to take 9 years. Reality is, there are now two years of clinical data across 8 billion and counting vaccinations and 269 million infected. To get some perspective, the first computer mouse was invented in 1991. 30 years later, it’s touchscreen, voice command, motion control headsets, and spacelaunches calculated on laptops. Medical science wasn’t left behind in the ability to identify and crunch numbers.

So it becomes not so much length of trials, as ability to aggregate data in a meaningful way for real-time results.

It’s this same ability that led to monoclonals being deemed a preferential treatment (and with wide acceptance) less than 6 months after Trump first ‘introduced’ them to the gen pop last November... There are risks to monoclonals, too, but same as vaccines, the risk from disease is worse

[Gaffer]

If what data they do have now on their ‘trials’ is legitimate and substantively supports the efficacy of these hastily approved ‘vaccines,’ why do they want over 50 years to fully release that data?

[DoodleBob]

Ping for your consideration.

[Pollard]

Pfizer's COVID-19 Clinical Trial Phase 1/2/3 in clinicaltrials.gov https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04368728

Trial start date April 29, 2020. Estimated completion date May 2, 2023 -- Offical Title: A PHASE 1/2/3, PLACEBO-CONTROLLED, RANDOMIZED, OBSERVER-BLIND, DOSE-FINDING STUDY TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY, TOLERABILITY, IMMUNOGENICITY, AND EFFICACY OF SARS-COV-2 RNA VACCINE CANDIDATES AGAINST COVID-19 IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS

Phase 1/2/3 run concurrently and will be done in 2023.(In Healthy Individuals) There's usually a Phase 4. Do you feel like a guinea pig? You should. Unless you're a PureBlood.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

— “And yet, we are supposed to ignore hard data that only about one-third of all vaccines make it through four phases of clinical trials, and that it take nine years at the median to obtain approval.”

Indeed, that is what we are “supposed” to ignore.

We also are “supposed” to ignore critics of warp speed, the estimations from companies which have no legal liability for their mRNA “emergency use” products, and “believe” the massive marketing.

Skepticism and dissent are not rewarded by those who would have us “ignore” so much.