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Will new bacon law begin? California grocers seek delay
Associated Press ^ | December 12, 2021, | SCOTT McFETRIDGE

Posted on 12/12/2021 7:07:18 AM PST by deport

A coalition of California restaurants and grocery stores has filed a lawsuit to block implementation of a new farm animal welfare law....

Put simply, the law requires that breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves be given enough space to stand and turn around. For pigs, that means they no longer can be kept in narrow "gestation crates" and must have 24 square feet (2.23 square meters) of usable space.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: ag; associatedpress; bacon; california; dietandcuisine; food; scottmcfetridge
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To: BobL
When we used to send bacon to my daughter in Istanbul, they didn't open the package. That changed, and we would then stick it in our luggage. Glad they moved to Spain.
61 posted on 12/12/2021 9:32:14 AM PST by KYGrandma
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To: libertylover

criminalized beef, pork and eggs....

Hey, it’ll still be a free country. You’ll be free to say or do anything the ruling Marxist Dems tell you is permitted.


62 posted on 12/12/2021 9:35:05 AM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: deport

Chicken and pigs should also get paid vacations to tropical islands...


63 posted on 12/12/2021 9:37:29 AM PST by GOPJ (Public Schools: Cease and desist teaching the merits of Mein Kampt and/or the Communist Manifesto. )
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To: deport

In spite of these rules CA will still export pork and eggs.

If CA is nothing else it’s still the Ag powerhouse of the nation.

If folks don’t want to eat stuff from CA, don’t.


64 posted on 12/12/2021 10:36:52 AM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: KYGrandma

“When we used to send bacon to my daughter in Istanbul, they didn’t open the package. That changed, and we would then stick it in our luggage. Glad they moved to Spain.”

Muslims, and Jews for that matter, need to get past their villification of bacon. Other pork, ok don’t eat it, but not bacon - they are missing out BIG TIME.


65 posted on 12/12/2021 10:37:17 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: 9YearLurker
So animal cruelty is a-okay by you?

Of course not, but I know that there is far more suffering in nature than there is on any farm. Any one who is unaware of this fact is unqualified to make a comparison. The cruelty of nature is the baseline.

Also, animals might tend to have longer lifespans in zoos than in nature, but that is often not so on modern farms.

Why are you bringing the red-herring of zoos into this? Farmers only make money if their animals survive and thrive. The vast majority of wild animals die of starvation or predation in infancy.

Meanwhile, the conditions that many farm animals are kept in for their there-short lives don’t provide nearly the quality of life their forebears would have had in nature.

Life in nature is nasty, brutal, and short. Animals live in a constant state of fear of predation and starvation; there are no exceptions. Domestic animals are safe, well-fed, and die humanely.

You high-rise liberals need to get out of your condominiums and off of the wood-chipped "nature preserve" hiking trails to see what the real world is like. You are welcome to pay quadruple the price for your "free-range" chicken, but understand that those "happy" birds were pecking each other to death their whole lives. Wild and domestic animals aren't "nice", intelligent, or cute. We need to treat them humanely, but we don't need to humanize them.

66 posted on 12/12/2021 10:56:08 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Farm born and raised here, and your arguments are obnoxious, callous bunk.


67 posted on 12/12/2021 11:29:09 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

And smarten up. You’re the one claiming that animals live longer on farms than in nature.

https://www.ciwf.com/farmed-animals/chickens/meat-chickens/#:~:text=Chickens%20have%20a%20lifespan%20of,approximately%20six%20weeks%20before%20slaughter.


68 posted on 12/12/2021 11:31:28 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
And smarten up. You’re the one claiming that animals live longer on farms than in nature.

Your link to a leftist animal rights organizations which advocates for the elimination of meat production is hardly an objective source of information.

Farm born and raised here

Was it some kind of hippy commune which raised ethically ranched kale and free-range tofu?

69 posted on 12/12/2021 12:00:26 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

No hippy commune, you idiot. And the link was to the average lifespan of chickens raised for meat on modern American farms.

Goodbye.


70 posted on 12/12/2021 12:10:03 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
No hippy commune, you idiot.

Self-proclaimed qualifications mean nothing on an anonymous internet forum like this one. Based on the political slant and the logical deficiencies of what you have written on this thread, it was and still is a reasonable supposition.

And the link was to the average lifespan of chickens raised for meat on modern American farms.

A far-left, anti-ranching, meat abolitionist group is hardly an objective factual source to quote.

71 posted on 12/12/2021 12:31:00 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

They dont realize that Chickens get to pecking on each other they will kill each other off till there is but one or two left.

As for hogs..the sows need to be in the crate till the litter is able to get out of the way. Once that happens, then she can be let out into a pen.


72 posted on 12/12/2021 12:54:41 PM PST by crz
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

100 years ago our food was terrible and dangerous. Modern farms are a miracle that has been able to feed the world. Combine that with medical care, breeding and refrigeration and we live better than kings of old did.

If people want to spend half their money on food, let the progressive control the narrative and the laws. They get more presents that way.


73 posted on 12/12/2021 1:00:57 PM PST by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrativel)
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To: 9YearLurker
We have a federal system.

And to that we are very painfully aware of. America is a union off ALL its states and the federal system has become the crippling yoke around their necks.

74 posted on 12/12/2021 4:20:33 PM PST by Ron H.
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To: SunkenCiv
No, it isn't the "next step", this is the problem right now. California will not allow imports into their state from states that do not comport with their regulations. That's why they are freaking out right now. So Iowa for example, can't ship eggs or bacon into the state of California as soon as the California law kicks in. It is a huge market, and while dairymen and ranchers, hog farmers can likely find a market for their product the point here is that it is completely unconstitutional. The states can't bind other states or inhibit free trade.
75 posted on 12/12/2021 6:30:13 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

Thx.

> The states can’t bind other states or inhibit free trade.

Apparently they can. For decades California has done so regarding so-called air quality, which is one big reason the US auto industry wound up in the shape it’s in.


76 posted on 12/12/2021 8:06:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good point.

CARB is a little bit different, and doesn’t really apply. It never made any sense to me. Through some sort of legal jiggery-pokery the fact that CARB predates US federal pollution or emission regulatory agencies magically makes it OK for California to set their own pollution standards. Or something. Consequently their market being very large it drives the manufacturers to adhere to their standard versus making two lines of product - one for Cali, and then for everybody else.

In the case of food, I think they made their bed now they get to lie in it. California lunacy regardless should not be forced on the other 49 states.


77 posted on 12/13/2021 5:13:58 AM PST by Freedom4US
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