Posted on 12/12/2021 7:07:18 AM PST by deport
A coalition of California restaurants and grocery stores has filed a lawsuit to block implementation of a new farm animal welfare law....
Put simply, the law requires that breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves be given enough space to stand and turn around. For pigs, that means they no longer can be kept in narrow "gestation crates" and must have 24 square feet (2.23 square meters) of usable space.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
criminalized beef, pork and eggs....
Hey, it’ll still be a free country. You’ll be free to say or do anything the ruling Marxist Dems tell you is permitted.
Chicken and pigs should also get paid vacations to tropical islands...
In spite of these rules CA will still export pork and eggs.
If CA is nothing else it’s still the Ag powerhouse of the nation.
If folks don’t want to eat stuff from CA, don’t.
“When we used to send bacon to my daughter in Istanbul, they didn’t open the package. That changed, and we would then stick it in our luggage. Glad they moved to Spain.”
Muslims, and Jews for that matter, need to get past their villification of bacon. Other pork, ok don’t eat it, but not bacon - they are missing out BIG TIME.
Of course not, but I know that there is far more suffering in nature than there is on any farm. Any one who is unaware of this fact is unqualified to make a comparison. The cruelty of nature is the baseline.
Also, animals might tend to have longer lifespans in zoos than in nature, but that is often not so on modern farms.
Why are you bringing the red-herring of zoos into this? Farmers only make money if their animals survive and thrive. The vast majority of wild animals die of starvation or predation in infancy.
Meanwhile, the conditions that many farm animals are kept in for their there-short lives don’t provide nearly the quality of life their forebears would have had in nature.
Life in nature is nasty, brutal, and short. Animals live in a constant state of fear of predation and starvation; there are no exceptions. Domestic animals are safe, well-fed, and die humanely.
You high-rise liberals need to get out of your condominiums and off of the wood-chipped "nature preserve" hiking trails to see what the real world is like. You are welcome to pay quadruple the price for your "free-range" chicken, but understand that those "happy" birds were pecking each other to death their whole lives. Wild and domestic animals aren't "nice", intelligent, or cute. We need to treat them humanely, but we don't need to humanize them.
Farm born and raised here, and your arguments are obnoxious, callous bunk.
And smarten up. You’re the one claiming that animals live longer on farms than in nature.
Your link to a leftist animal rights organizations which advocates for the elimination of meat production is hardly an objective source of information.
Farm born and raised here
Was it some kind of hippy commune which raised ethically ranched kale and free-range tofu?
No hippy commune, you idiot. And the link was to the average lifespan of chickens raised for meat on modern American farms.
Goodbye.
Self-proclaimed qualifications mean nothing on an anonymous internet forum like this one. Based on the political slant and the logical deficiencies of what you have written on this thread, it was and still is a reasonable supposition.
And the link was to the average lifespan of chickens raised for meat on modern American farms.
A far-left, anti-ranching, meat abolitionist group is hardly an objective factual source to quote.
They dont realize that Chickens get to pecking on each other they will kill each other off till there is but one or two left.
As for hogs..the sows need to be in the crate till the litter is able to get out of the way. Once that happens, then she can be let out into a pen.
100 years ago our food was terrible and dangerous. Modern farms are a miracle that has been able to feed the world. Combine that with medical care, breeding and refrigeration and we live better than kings of old did.
If people want to spend half their money on food, let the progressive control the narrative and the laws. They get more presents that way.
And to that we are very painfully aware of. America is a union off ALL its states and the federal system has become the crippling yoke around their necks.
Thx.
> The states can’t bind other states or inhibit free trade.
Apparently they can. For decades California has done so regarding so-called air quality, which is one big reason the US auto industry wound up in the shape it’s in.
Good point.
CARB is a little bit different, and doesn’t really apply. It never made any sense to me. Through some sort of legal jiggery-pokery the fact that CARB predates US federal pollution or emission regulatory agencies magically makes it OK for California to set their own pollution standards. Or something. Consequently their market being very large it drives the manufacturers to adhere to their standard versus making two lines of product - one for Cali, and then for everybody else.
In the case of food, I think they made their bed now they get to lie in it. California lunacy regardless should not be forced on the other 49 states.
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