Posted on 11/30/2021 4:59:24 PM PST by steadcom
Does anyone know a non vaccinated person who has had Covid during pregnancy especially in the first trimester?
I read this, "The overall risk of COVID-19 to pregnant women is low. However, women who are pregnant or were recently pregnant are at increased risk for severe illness with COVID-19"
Does anyone have personal info about this? Thanks.
Don’t know about women who catch the disease while pregnant, but there seems to be a trend noticed in Canada that women who get the shot while pregnant have a much higher risk of miscarriages/stillbirths.
A friends daughter did. Not sure which trimester but everything turned out fine.
Just reverse the “advice” and you’ll have the truth.
If they don’t reference a study then I wouldn’t believe it. If pregnant women and/or their babies were at risk due to the Coof then the media would be on it like a dog on a bone.
Haven’t heard anything about pregos more likely to get COVID but miscarriages are up in the vaccinated.
No way in hell would I risk my growing pre-born child by getting this jab.
Also would not get this if I was breast feeding my child. Infants are dying of clotting disorders when mom gets vaccinated.
My daughter had it but she was in the third trimester - she and baby were fine.
One data point - I think at about half term. No serious symptoms for mom. Childbirth (months later) was not affected by the experience. Mom and baby doing fine.
From Pubmed: It appears that it is not a threat in first trimester. Reference below.
Results: Of 225 women, 23 (10.2%) had a positive test result for coronavirus disease 2019. There was no difference in the cumulative incidence of coronavirus disease 2019 between the cases (11/100, 11%) and the controls (12/125, 9.6%) (P=.73). Logistic regression analysis confirmed that coronavirus disease 2019 was not an independent predictor of early pregnancy loss (odds ratio, 1.28; confidence interval, 0.53-3.08). Coronavirus disease 2019-related symptoms in the first trimester were fever, anosmia, ageusia, cough, arthralgia, and diarrhea; no cases of pneumonia or hospital admission owing to coronavirus disease 2019-related symptoms were recorded. No difference in the incidence of symptoms was noted between the 2 groups.
Conclusion: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection during the first trimester of pregnancy does not seem to predispose to early pregnancy loss; its cumulative incidence did not differ between women with spontaneous abortion and women with ongoing pregnancy. Coronavirus disease 2019 appears to have a favorable maternal course at the beginning of pregnancy, consistent with what has been observed during the second and third trimesters.
I have a good friend who got CoVid during her first trimester. She followed docs advice. Got lots of rest, sunshine, and fluids. She delivered a healthy delightful little girl. No harm no foul.
great info thanks
My pleasure.
Here in the Philippines, a friend's daughter, a nurse but not vaccinated, got covid at 5 months and died. Another friend's daughter, also unvaccinated,caught it at 8 months. She survived but the baby died after a month in ICU.
I should note that the American mRNA vaccines were not available in our area until last month, and most of us got the adenovirus based UK vaccine or the attenuated virus Chinese vaccine,..and they started giving these other vaccines to high risk folks in June.
Women who are pregnant are considered at an increased risk of pretty much everything, in part because pregnancy is a stress to your system. Also the, studying pregnant women and the effects of diseases or drugs is ethically more challenging, the data collected is either incidentally collected or collected well after other studies have concluded and given a factor of safety... so the sample size of any study is almost always so much smaller that it is necessarily more error prone because that any blip in the data becomes more significant... and pregnancy always has something that causes a blip somewhere along the line.
My daughter had it her third trimester. She and baby are doing fine.
The data disagree with you — there is no evidence of teratogenesis in the first trimester and no augmented risk of miscarriage. Please see above.
This abjectly false and incorrect. Pregnancy is a normal physiological state — there is not increased risk to the mom with just about everything. In the first trimester there is high risk of teratogenesis with exogenous medication administrations. There are some disease states that are deleterious in pregnancy, however, you are painting with far too broad of a brush with your statements.
My daughter got pregnant one month after her second shot and miscarried a normal female two months later. She has had the booster and is trying again but I am quite concerned, especially given the Canada info. There has not been adequate testing to be able to give fertile women thoughtful guidance.
You're missing the forest for the trees. To the mom, yes. The mom isn't the only player in the game though, which is where everything else that I was trying to point out comes in. No pregnant woman (well, not any that consider themselves pregnant with a child) walks into a doctor's office or hospital thinking "well, so long as I end up ok, that's good enough for me."
Women aren't predictably pregnant according to a clinical trial schedule (given a large enough population, that's really not a big limitation though), they're only pregnant for 42ish weeks maximum, so the duration of their condition is limited, and they are rarely interested in taking part in medical trials, particularly ones early in the process where enough time has passed to give a reasonable approximation of safety. My overall point was that because of these reasons, the sample size is necessarily going to be smaller, so the statistical reliability of any side effect being caused by a medication is less. My second part about an expectant mother's system being stressed is more related to a side effect of an experimental medication being listed as being an effect of the pregnancy or the medication. If the trial administrators are being faithful, if you can't eliminate it as being caused by the drug, every side effect is captured just in case it comes up later.
Is the “data” you refer to based on the disease itself or the shot?
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