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Custody argument results in Texas man being shot to death, lawyer claims it was self-defense
FOX ^ | 11/30/2021 | Pilar Arias

Posted on 11/30/2021 11:59:52 AM PST by Phoenix8

A Lubbock, Texas, man was shot and killed while arguing with his ex-wife over their child custody arrangement, and it was all caught on cell phone video.

The incident unfolded on Nov. 5, according to attorney Matthew L. Harris, who is representing the victim's widow. Harris says the footage was filmed by Jennifer Read.

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: castledoctrine; chadread; jenniferread; kylecarruth; lubbock; matthewlharris; murder; selfdefense; shooting; texas
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To: taxcontrol
Disagree. You are characterizing everything to fit the scenario you are trying to paint.

A man not leaving when told to leave is not a sufficient reason to intimidate him with a gun and then shoot him, especially when he was there to get his rightful legal custody of his son.

The smaller guy should have called the police and had them remove him. No one needed to die over this bunch of stupidity. The son didn't need his father killed.

41 posted on 11/30/2021 1:47:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: dware

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pVynoc9r78

Good luck.


42 posted on 11/30/2021 1:49:08 PM PST by conservative98
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To: Captain Peter Blood

How does the idiot ex-wife feel? Court orders are to be obeyed, precisely to avoid this kind of thing. “Sorry, son. New daddy killed old daddy because I’m a manipulative c*nt.”


43 posted on 11/30/2021 1:56:40 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: aynrandfreak

“I’m not sure it’s so clear-cut.”

What is clear, is that the shooter had both time and opportunity to dial 911 when he left to get his firearm. We would have to ask him why he did not do that.

That said, it was the shooter’s private property. The angry ex-husband was asked to leave repeatedly, and did not, and made repeated advances while threatening and menacing the shooter and the woman.

Castle doctrine? Stand your ground? I would not vote to convict.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


44 posted on 11/30/2021 1:57:31 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Teal guy should have left the property when told to due so and called the police over the custody order. The gun owner was dealing with an obviously hostile and intemidating INTRUDER. Teal guy was clearly the agressor.


45 posted on 11/30/2021 2:03:45 PM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

And you are sure things would not have escalated before Police had arrived. How many times have we seen the very same scenario and the boyfriend beaten or dead the wife beaten and hostage and the child a hostage as well?


46 posted on 11/30/2021 2:04:59 PM PST by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: House Atreides

Both men are jackasses, but this was the woman’s fault.
The ex was there at the proper time & place for his pickup of the child. The child wasn’t there. Bitch set him up.


47 posted on 11/30/2021 2:07:03 PM PST by EEGator
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To: taxcontrol
Teal guy should have left the property when told to due so and called the police over the custody order.

Both sides should have called the police.

Teal guy was clearly the agressor.

Disagree. He looked relatively non aggressive given the circumstances.

48 posted on 11/30/2021 2:13:23 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: EEGator

Both men are jackasses, but only one is alive, and he is also a murderer.


49 posted on 11/30/2021 2:18:36 PM PST by sitetest (Professional patient. No longer mostly dead. Again. It's getting to be a habit.)
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To: Kartographer
And you are sure things would not have escalated before Police had arrived.

By "escalated" do you mean someone goes inside and gets a gun for an argument? Clearly things did escalate.

How many times have we seen the very same scenario and the boyfriend beaten or dead the wife beaten and hostage and the child a hostage as well?

If that were the man's intent, he could have simply done that right away. Even if the little man thought the big guy would hurt him, why did he get up so close to bump chests?

I see the little man as a d@mn hot head who escalated to 11 when the situation didn't call for it. This was a pissing contest. If the little man was afraid, why did he bump chests with the big man?

Stay back 10-20 feet and threaten to shoot if the big man advances. *That* is what a frightened man would have done. This was an angry man.

This was all about not looking like a punk in front of the woman. It's two Rams butting head in front of a female.

50 posted on 11/30/2021 2:18:38 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: sitetest

I agree. I saw the video before.
The woman should be charged as an accessory.


51 posted on 11/30/2021 2:19:32 PM PST by EEGator
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well, going upto a person holding a rifle, coming into physical contact, receiving a warning shot and STILL closing in an attempt to take the rifle is DAMN agressive in my sight.


52 posted on 11/30/2021 2:19:46 PM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: SharpenedEdge
If I'm giving away 100 lbs then my opponent is 310 lbs.

Chances are he is a lardass. My superior mobility and baseball bat should impose my will just fine.

A knife within 21 feet justifies shooting.

I've got all those bases covered.

I'm not any kind of a badass but I do have a plan and am ready for just about anything at all times whether in church or out walking the dog.

I used to prey upon the predators for a living but they were generally just run of the mill sociopaths.

Going straight to the option of last resort is for old men who cant fight or pansies.

One has a good excuse, the other goes to prison.

53 posted on 11/30/2021 2:32:58 PM PST by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: aynrandfreak

I’ve watched both videos. On one you cannot see the victim as he was shot. But on the other it is pretty clear the victim was standing still and not advancing when the stepdad backed up and shot him. The stepdad should have just gone in the house and called the police. Instead he escalated the argument by going and getting a gun, despite the evidence that the victim wasn’t threatening him or anyone else with physical harm.


54 posted on 11/30/2021 2:42:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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To: Manic_Episode

Proverbs 16:18.


55 posted on 11/30/2021 2:46:09 PM PST by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: SharpenedEdge

Proverbs 29:18


56 posted on 11/30/2021 3:14:19 PM PST by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: Manic_Episode

Yeah, well Sam Colt called that the “Great Equalizer”. The big guy should have learned how to handle himself, and not to throw his size like a bully sometime around High School.

Guess he finally learned!

And your language was rather crude. Upset that someone blew out the big guy’s lamp? Is that your fave technique looking kinda dangerous?


57 posted on 11/30/2021 3:30:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: mdmathis6

Never spent much time in Lubbock I see...


58 posted on 11/30/2021 3:31:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: sitetest
Both men are jackasses, but only one is alive, and he is also a murderer.

now one is going to be judged by 12 instead of carried by 6, the other is never going to have his day in court against his ex and her manipulative ways.. She's the one who got the 2 together, she planned it. shes a #1 C*NT

59 posted on 11/30/2021 3:41:24 PM PST by Ikeon (If she's wearing too much make up, it's probably to hide too much ugly)
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To: DesertRhino
" Is that your fave technique looking kinda dangerous?"

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Actually now that you mention it hairy ugly bikers do get more respect than peewee Herman types. Just sayin.

60 posted on 11/30/2021 4:01:35 PM PST by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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