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UK STUDY — Covid Vaccinated Adults under 60 are dying at 2X Times the rate of the Unvaccinated…
Citizen Free Press ^ | 11/21/2021

Posted on 11/21/2021 9:51:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind

SOURCE — ALEX BERENSON

The brown line represents weekly deaths from all causes of vaccinated people 10-59, per 100,000 people. The blue line represents weekly deaths from all causes of unvaccinated people per 100,000 in the same age range.

The conclusion — Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal. I don’t know how to explain this.

The basic data is available here, download the Excel file and see table 4:


 

 

New Study from Germany — Higher Vaccination Rate leads to Higher Mortality

 

SOURCE — STEVE KIRSCH

 

The authors write (translated into English) — “The correlation is + .31, is amazingly high and especially in an unexpected direction. Actually, it should be negative, so that one could say: The higher the vaccination rate, the lower the excess mortality. However, the opposite is the case and this urgently needs to be clarified. Excess mortality can be observed in all 16 countries.”

 

The original German study translated into English PDF…


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: bioweapon; covid; deaths; feature; glitch; itsgotelectrolytes; mandate; mandates; medicaltyranny; rare; safeandeffective; study; thankewescience; thankyouscience; thevaccineisscience; tyranny; unexpected; vaccines; weallknowthat
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To: noiseman
Thanks for the follow up.

I completely missed the age limitation.

I also did not give the death rate chart the amount of study it deserved.

The fact that the 2021 un-vaccinated death rate went DOWN 50% in three months while the vaccinated death rate was going UP 5X times in the same period is also quite remarkable.

21 posted on 11/21/2021 11:11:46 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: 9YearLurker
Re: the long-standing Freeper tradition of not reading the article before responding

OK - fair point.

On the other hand, the death rates are separated by around 1.0 to 2.0 per 100,000.

Unless you or someone you care about is part of the extra 1.0 - 2.0 group, is that even a statistically meaningful quantity?

22 posted on 11/21/2021 11:53:06 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: bhl

Yeah, especially all those athletes. You can’t get more unhealthy than them.


23 posted on 11/22/2021 12:52:54 AM PST by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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To: zeestephen; 9YearLurker
"1.0 - 2.0 group, is that even a statistically meaningful quantity?"

Keeping in mind that's the "rate" and not a "percentage."

A 1 percent to 2 percent difference is not very statistically meaningfully in most cases, but a rate of 1 vs 2 is a doubling of the rate. VERY meaningful.

24 posted on 11/22/2021 1:13:36 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark.


25 posted on 11/22/2021 1:19:04 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: zeestephen

Berenson excluded the over 60 cohort.


26 posted on 11/22/2021 2:37:41 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Islam---At war with Western Civilization for 1400 years)
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To: zeestephen

As I understand it, that is a population, rather than sample, number. Very few had been jabbed by 1/1/21, of course, and it looks more like .9 to 2.2 in the most recent week, so closer to a 1.5x increase. The overall death rate usually varies by only about 1% year to year. We’re talking about a population in that age range of nearly 40 million. Finally, you’re looking at the per-week number, so the annual number is about 50x that.

Altogether this looks like a really big difference, let alone considering that most post-jab deaths come within a few days of the second shot, when people are still conveniently classified as “unvaxxed”.


27 posted on 11/22/2021 3:40:14 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rxsid

It is also only the weekly rate.


28 posted on 11/22/2021 3:40:49 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: zeestephen

10-59 is a very wide spread. Mortality is much higher in the 50’s, then in the teens.

It is well known that the older someone is, the more likely they are to be vaccinated.

Controlling for age as a variable is obvious, and is standard academic practice. That they did not do it is a huge red flag for bias (or incompetence).


29 posted on 11/22/2021 3:41:07 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

The control was there. The comparison was between both 10 to 59 groups.


30 posted on 11/22/2021 4:22:34 AM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: SeekAndFind

Safe and Effective?


31 posted on 11/22/2021 5:07:17 AM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: SeekAndFind
Something's brewing...

Alex Berenson: "If you work in a PCR testing lab or have access to broad datasets of CT counts, let me know."

32 posted on 11/22/2021 5:08:35 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Chickensoup

“ The control was there. The comparison was between both 10 to 59 groups.”

No it was not.

We’re both groups equally distributed by age (e.g., exactly the same proportions of 12 year olds and 58 year olds?

No, of course not.

Virtually no 12 year olds were vaccinated, while the majority of 58 year olds were.

Notice how the lines cross - vaccinated mortality goes up, while unvaccinated mortality goes down, below the long term average.

It is a simple matter of the higher risk individuals moving from one group to the other.


33 posted on 11/22/2021 5:18:17 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: SeekAndFind

Think about how much worser it could’ve been if these folks WEREN’T vaxximanated.


34 posted on 11/22/2021 5:19:13 AM PST by moovova (I'm dismayed that most of the world hates me for being non-vaxxed. Honest. No, really.)
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To: moovova

In the UK and EU you can get a vaccine pass (immunity pass) if you had a prior Covid infection, for the very good reason that prior infection is better than vaccination in protecting a person from subsequent infection. MOST OF THE UNVACCINATED LIKELY HAD A PRIOR INFECTION. The CDC is asking Americans to get vaccinated even if they had a prior infection, because they don’t want these misleading statistics to emerge, because they think Americans are too stupid to figure out that “unvaccinated with a prior infection” is vastly different from just “unvaccinated”. Are we that stupid? Read these posts from SeekandFind every day to find out.


35 posted on 11/22/2021 5:34:23 AM PST by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: bhl

another Alternate theory:

The mRNA vaccine diminishes the bodies natural immune response each time they are vaccinated with the vaccine.

Hence, the most vaccinated have screwed their natural immune system up royal.


36 posted on 11/22/2021 6:07:49 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: brookwood

I do read these post! It’s frightening. And this...

“The conclusion — Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people.”

My middle-age kids are vaccinated. And their spouses. I’m not too worried about me (70 & unvaxxed), but...if my kids are harmed...I can’t even express the frustration I’m feeling.


37 posted on 11/22/2021 6:31:23 AM PST by moovova (I'm dismayed that most of the world hates me for being non-vaxxed. Honest. No, really.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Berenson is either the laziest journalist out there or intentionally grifting off the fearful.

The reason the rate seems higher in the under 60 population is explained by the researchers in the footnotes to the dataset.

""9. For the 10-59 age group, the vaccinated population will on average be older than the unvaccinated population due to age-based prioritisation in the vaccine roll-out. As mortality rates are higher for older people, this will increase the mortality rates for the vaccinated population compared to the unvaccinated population."

The vaccinated cohort is on average older than the unvaccinated, so of course their all cause mortality is higher.

Anyone who takes these sources seriously needs to ask why these grifters like Berenson have so little respect for them.

38 posted on 11/22/2021 6:38:38 AM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo; ransomnote; Jane Long

I have noticed the new narrative - to call anyone providing information and data questioning the shot or promotions therapeutics as grifters or “in it for the money”.

I’ve noticed five of you shills using this tactic so far. You should change up your wording as to not be so obvious 😂😂😂


39 posted on 11/22/2021 7:03:18 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer; ransomnote

Great catch!

Only more proof that these $hift working $hot $hills get their talking points memos, from the FRAUDci/CDC, each morning.


40 posted on 11/22/2021 7:36:57 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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