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Oklahoma to lose National Guard status… Will be called State Militia instead…
Citizen Free Press ^ | 11/17/2021 | Kane

Posted on 11/17/2021 6:42:09 PM PST by Beave Meister

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To: Beave Meister

I’ve been an active member of my state’s State Guard since 2016. We operate as the smaller, and non-federal, hand of state duty. We are not war-fighters, but volunteers and professionals (engineers, chaplains, medical, attorneys, and commo) who augment the efforts of state civilian authorities. We are mostly deployed for emergency management roles.

Removing the National Guard designation from OK’s forces is a big deal, if only funding is considered. The Feds will also forfeit a huge asset in troop numbers and skills that factor into the war-fighting roles.


41 posted on 11/17/2021 7:16:52 PM PST by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (“Salute the Marines.” - Joe )
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To: Darksheare

The National Guard has never been the militia they are a fully sponsored Federal level military agency with full access to class three military grade weapons, tanks, mortars, mines, fighter jets and all manor of explosives that would land any militia members in the Federal prison for the rest of their lives. Once OK losses Federal government backing they also lose access to all those kinds of weapons and must return them to the real owners the Federal government. The state militia is a bunch of middle age overweight bubbas with AR15s who are not allowed to even posses belt fed machine guns let alone carry them openly.


42 posted on 11/17/2021 7:18:08 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Beave Meister

Finei


43 posted on 11/17/2021 7:18:40 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;pag, and that)
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To: Beave Meister
It isn't trivial, but it isn't impossible either Each individual state following this course of action would have to develop a defense budget and closely tailor its defense expenditures to its specific internal needs. The loss of National Guard assets to the federal government might have to be offset by an expansion of the Reserves, so both sides of this argument would have to pony up to make the break happen. I wouldn't think it an entirely wise course of action on either part but it could be done.

The current size of all the states' national guards is approximately 443,000, roughly one-third of the size of the U.S. Armed Forces active duty component - by comparison, roughly the size of the armed forces of Malaysia or Algeria. The latter of these has a budget of just under $10 billion. Could the combined 50 states come up with that budget? Yes, actually. Admittedly this is an apples-to-oranges comparison but they're both round fruit and that's about the granularity desired of a seat-of-the-pants estimate.

The fact that in ten short months Josef Stolen and his band of pirates has us thinking in these terms is staggering. But outlandish as it may seem we'd better be thinking.

44 posted on 11/17/2021 7:19:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: slouper

Secession?

I think there are several contiguous states in the southeast / midwest that should consider banding together in this cause.


45 posted on 11/17/2021 7:23:43 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: Beave Meister
Oklahoma received 43 million in federal funds for training last year, 5 million for youth programs and around 12 million for construction and facilities maintenance.

Soldiers and Airmen are paid using these federal funds.

While I back the move, this is going to be interesting.

No more calling up Oklahoma to protect Washington or man the southern border. No more deployment of their troops either.

Also no Oklahoma NG personnel will be able to attend military schools and all air wings and helo flights likely will be grounded.

46 posted on 11/17/2021 7:23:58 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: Beave Meister

What does history teach us?

Not quite the same but with the demise of the soviet union each satellite claimed what was in their borders.

We woke up one morning and learned the soviet union was gone. it can happen that fast here too.


47 posted on 11/17/2021 7:25:16 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

I can - and have - bought 50 cal API rounds delivered right to my door.


48 posted on 11/17/2021 7:26:16 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Gadsden Flag Moment:

Come and Take It!


49 posted on 11/17/2021 7:29:17 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: hopespringseternal
Okay - so you think that being a state militia and foregoing all those federal dollars and gear will mean the state militias will still end up with the same amount of equipment and troops without having to spend a penny more because the elimination of some unspecified "mandates" will save even more money.

God luck with that!

50 posted on 11/17/2021 7:29:57 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Beave Meister

Can someone find balls for my governor. Granted it’s Grandma Ivey but still. My governor sucks.


51 posted on 11/17/2021 7:30:37 PM PST by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: Blurb2350

We, the tax payers, are more than willing to fund a opposing force of state militia. Our states mostly require it but something happened about 170 years ago that made fedgov supreme.


52 posted on 11/17/2021 7:33:42 PM PST by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

In Oklahoma you can, SGAmmo in Stillwater!


53 posted on 11/17/2021 7:34:09 PM PST by Vox Romantic
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To: Beave Meister

Say what you want... The Democrats actually FIGHT.


54 posted on 11/17/2021 7:34:36 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Beave Meister

Hmmm, would this trip a reconsideration of that class 3 equipment restriction vis a vis the 2nd Amendment? How can they constitutionally restrict the OK Militia?


55 posted on 11/17/2021 7:34:46 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Let 3 or 4 more States do this. I suggest Florida, Mississippi, and Alabama. Toss in Idaho and watch the Pentagon soil their Depends.

L


56 posted on 11/17/2021 7:37:16 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: T-Bird45

“The rub is how do they recover the equipment which is held in multiple locations.”

Would Biden send the 101st into Oklahoma to retrieve all that stuff?

L


57 posted on 11/17/2021 7:41:45 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: atc23

LOL - OK should rename its NG the state Taliban and not only keep the equipment but demand Biden pay them off like the other Taliban.


58 posted on 11/17/2021 7:43:12 PM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: JD_UTDallas

55-48


59 posted on 11/17/2021 7:44:54 PM PST by ARW
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To: Vox Romantic

That’s where I got it - in addition to a multitude of other stuff.


60 posted on 11/17/2021 7:45:58 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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