Posted on 11/17/2021 6:12:24 AM PST by fwdude
Can we chuck the "breakthrough infection" crap already. This is the norm, not the rare exception.
Three so far in my office and their spouses. "Fully vaccinated." I'm almost of the opinion that the vaccine is causing their symptoms.
The University of Illinois football coach caught Covid after getting the booster last week.
Same here.
I had the flu shot last year. The pneumonia shot 4 years
ago. I have taken this years flu shot last week,
the pneumonia shot again a week before, and a tetanus
booster in the May. I haven't had a cold in maybe 4 or 5 years.
Once in while feel something coming on so I
use those zinc throat lozenges and take plenty of
vitamins. And I haven't had the Covid shot and I'm not
going to take it.
Rural MO, we tossed the masks early last summer. Kids went back to school last Fall, no masks, no distancing. Then they spent the summer hanging out with each other and are back in school again. In general, life didn't change here because of what equated to a bad flu going around. We had one hump of cases last Fall and another of delta this Fall and we're over delta now. We're low vax rate here. We're average to low case rate and at this point, nearing Amish like herd immunity.
“”Fully vaccinated.” I’m almost of the opinion that the vaccine is causing their symptoms.”
Someone FINALLY woke up!
The vaccines are marginally effective at provoking an immune response when administered. After all, that's why most people have some mild to moderate side-effects from the shot for several days - that's their immune systems responding.
So there is some level of protection against the virus. What "percent effectiveness" that is, is anyone's guess. There have been reasonably credible studies that pin it anywhere from around 50% to 95% and everywhere in between. With "effectiveness" definitions all over the map too, from "you won't get sick" to "you won't get as sick" or simply "you're less likely to end up hospitalized or dead."
There is mounting evidence that whatever immune response is triggered by the vaccines is effectively gone by 5 to 6 months post-vaccination. This is becoming more evident as we get to a time 5 or 6 months past when vaccinations really ramped up. There are a lot of people with their protection effectively gone. This is why the booster campaign is heating up.
The limited effectiveness, and more importantly the rapid degradation of that effectiveness over just a few months is why more and more cases are showing up in the vaccinated population. In fact we are starting to see rates of infection and resulting hospitalizations and deaths that are higher among the vaccinated segment than the rates are among the un-vaccinated.
Conspiracy minded folks or the merely cynical might take this as a sign the vaccines are actually harmful (intentionally or not). That may be so, we are still getting to the long term side effects stage. What isn't in question though is human nature. People who get the vax believe the hype and believe they are protected. It is human nature that they are going to be a little more lax in their protective and preventative measures. They are going to socialize more, social-distance less, mask-up less, maybe be not quite as careful about hygiene and hand washing etc. Meanwhile the un-vaxxed are more or less continuing to take the same precautions we always have. So the vaxxed, with what little protection they did have waning, engaging in more risky behaviors, get infected at higher rates.
It isn't a pandemic of the un-vaxxed. It is a study in human nature and a result of marginally effective vaccines with very short useful protection periods. With all the unknowns related to long term side effects it would be reckless, bordering on negligent to start down the path of giving hundreds of millions of people bi-annual shots of experimental drugs. The shots aren't that good, the virus is too agile. We're probably just going to have to let it run it's course until enough people build up natural immunity to effectively stop the spread. There's always going to be covid-19, we're never going to eradicate it. We are going to have to get to a point where your chances of getting it are slim because almost no-one has it because we all have some measure of immunity to it.
Disagree entirely
Even before the vaccine, I did the minimum to avoid the virus. Hell early on I even wanted to get the virus just get to get it over with.
The Vaxxed people I know are all still scared out of their minds. That idiot wearing a mask while driving alone, I would bet real money he/she is vaccinated.
Thankfully, my doctor, and my other close family members’ doctors, have not broached the subject of the “vaccine” with them at all. And most in my family are in the health care industry. They know, beyond the purely political rhetoric.
That's my thought, that every person wearing a mask everywhere is most definitely vaccinated.
Go visit Conservative Treehouse. Great video of an interview with 2 of the foremost authorities on COVID and the so called vaccine. Rather technical in nature but most common folk can follow along. VERY enlightening.
On the other hand the unvaxxed folks have maintained a cautionary lifestyle and generally avoid such situations.
We’re also 67. We also don’t mask up.
Agree with you completely. I stayed unvaxed until recently and have NEVER been as healthy as I’ve been through this whole lockdown. But I’m not trusting other people’s care anymore, so no longer willing to take the chance to not be vaxed. Of an age and condition that getting covid would be HIGH probability fatal, and the probability of vax bad effects either LOW enough probability or in a future I might not have to worry about.
Once the left plastered Trump’s name (bells ring out and orchestras play) onto successful treatments, and forced the deaths of the older, more conservative generation by not allowing effective treatments to be widespread, my opinion of leftists went from vicious and wrong, to of a level of evilness I’m unable to take in and comprehend can possibly live in a human heart.
I’m feeling like an innocent from another dimension living in an Alice in Wonderland, upside-down world. At the same time, I’m currently writing a book about the west of stetsons and six-shooters and a simple morality that makes me ache for a society that seems permanently gone. It’s going to be such a sad day when I write the last word, knowing that will force me to leave that world for this one again.
FR is an oasis in a world that’s getting harder and harder to understand. So grateful you guys are still out there.
In the last 6 months or so, Everyone in my personal orbit, with the exception of 2 people, that has gotten the Kung Flu has been FULLY VACCINATED...
Of the 2 non vaccinated, 1 moderate case, 1 sniffles for 2 days.
Of the fully vaccinated, several severe cases, and sadly a few deaths.
At this point there is no doubt in my mind that the injections have made people more susceptible to catching the virus...
Data out of Israel and other highly vaccinated nations is showing this as well.
Per 100k of vaccinated vs 100k or unvaccinated, cases of Kung Flu among vaccinated are higher than among vaccinated.
I disagree. The “long term side effects” won’t begin to be known for several years from now, and for decades after that, if the vaxxed live that long.
I have been vaccinated for the flu, tetanus, measles and shingles. They are all one-year protection or longer, in the case of tetanus, measles and shingles. Those are vaccines. I sometimes feel a little under the weather for perhaps a day after those shots, but no longer. The COVID jab is NOT a vaccine. You need a “booster” within a year of the original jab? Please!
“The vaxxed people went back to doing things like going to parties where they inhaled whatever was being exhaled by someone else.
On the other hand the unvaxxed folks have maintained a cautionary lifestyle and generally avoid such situations.”
Absolutely wrong, the unvaxxed have been the ones who have been living their lives since day one... the fearful ones who hid in their homes and double and triple masked are the ones who got vaccinated.
Most unvaxxed never stopped living their lives... We were the ones driving across state borders to still go to restaurants and bars when the morons locked things down.
Absolutely 100% disagree with this conjecture.
Anyone who was so fearful they were “being safe” were the first folks who lined up for the jabs.
Those who lived their lives, and refused to live in fear, are the ones most likely to not be vaxxed, not the other way around.
I have not been “vaccinated” for C19 and I refuse. I haven’t had so much as the sniffles for years. I don’t care what people choose to do because it’s none of my business and I would expect the same.
Are any of the people getting sick recently vaxxed, say within the last two weeks?
If the “authorities” were honest, and not bound by a political agenda, they would openly acknowledge what you have witnessed in the “vaxxed” population. But they won’t. They are fully invested in a lie.
No way! The rapidly aging hens on The View profess this is not possible ... it’s not “science” ... to believe it is true makes one an apostate to the Cult of the Left.
This interview with Karen Kingston basically nails it. Demonstrates how hundreds of Covid-style sicknesses were removed from the jabbed cohort in the Pfizer approval tests, which is the only way they could show the jabs presenting fewer, as opposed to more, “Covid” cases.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nedwj3njFM34/
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