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Vanity. I have a question about CRT.
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Posted on 11/13/2021 7:48:04 PM PST by jonno

Has anyone here - if their kids are still in public school - had any experience with their kids being exposed to the CRT agenda? I'd be curious to see any of the actual materials, etc.

The reason I'm asking is I have an acquaintance who claims the whole argument is right-wing alarmism without any basis in fact.


TOPICS: Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: criticalracetherapy; crt; education; sleepertroll; vanity
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To: No.6; sourcery; freeandfreezing

Thanks so much to all of your for taking the time to provide such such valuable information. It’s very much appreciated.

I’ve got some reading to do it seems. 8^)


41 posted on 11/13/2021 10:38:44 PM PST by jonno (You are the carbon they want to reduce.)
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To: mcshot

Ron Brown btw.

And the Flight Attendant that survived the forced plane crash that then boarded a rescue chopper with minor injuries and under Her own power only to arrive at the Medical Facility with a nice clean (Surgical Scalpel clean) severed Femoral Artery and was DEAD !!!

Link to below:

https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/BROWN/kelly.html

All 35 people are dead except for stewardess Shelly Kelly, who is riding
in the tail. She sustains only minor cuts and bruises...

Crash site. 7:20 P.M.:

Four hours and 20 minutes after the crash, the first Croation Special
Forces search party arrives on the scene. They fund only stewardess Kelly
surviving. They call for a helicopter to evacuate her to the hospital.
When it arrives, Kelly is able to get on board without assistance from the
medics.

But Kelly never completes the short hop. She dies an route. According to
multiple reports given to journalist/editor Joe L. Jordan, an autopsy
later reveals a neat three-inch incision over her main femoral artery. It
also shows the incision came at least three hours after all her other cuts
and bruises.

This creates in your mind a horrifying scene in the back of the chopper, as
one Special Forces operative holds down the struggling woman while
another slice her leg.

Further autopsies of other passengers probably will not be made. Clinton
ordered the cremation of all victims - it’s hard to perform autopsies on
ashes.


42 posted on 11/13/2021 10:39:36 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: Sawdring

fdr, h.s. truman, lbj one of them.


43 posted on 11/13/2021 10:44:02 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: jonno

CRT is a scholarly academic work product. It is theory, a doctoral dissertation if you will. What has happened is that ideas from CRT have filtered down, become over-simplified, and taught as doctrine to kids who don’t have the skills or experience or foundation to think about it critically.

There has always been strife among peoples for all kinds of reasons. Ideology, race, religion, resources, ego you name it. There have always been oppressors vs the oppressed. It’s older than the bible, but men have tried to make a more just society from the code of Hammurabi to Alexander to Caesar and more. It could be as big as society vs society, or just one man exploiting another. Every culture throughout human civilization has to deal with that, but that is not destiny though. That is just history. History should be taught, as a means to teach people that they can overcome adversity. Destiny cannot be taught, and if you try to tell people their destiny at a young age is called indoctrination and propaganda. It is not education.

CRT in application at lower levels (K-12, and to a degree now even higher education) has become a means to dumb down critical thought, to write off lack of achievement and lack of effort as consequence of some external political issues outside the control of the individual. “You are dumb and poor because of that enemy over there”. It might as well be Mein Kampf. Every political movement needs an external enemy. No question about it, CRT is part of a political movement it has nothing to do with civil rights. The greatest civil right possible is a good educational foundation and CRT, in practice, essentially decided that education is futile and your destiny is predetermined based on factors over which you have no control. It is complete condescending ignorant horse crap.

In reality, besides the kids themselves the failure is entirely the fault of the public education system. You can blame the kids for not applying themselves but ultimately it’s the parents and the teachers who keep lowering the bar to achievement so that kids don’t ever learn the skills needed to teach themselves. And that is all ever education can really promise: Teach people how to learn. The rest is up to you, the individual. Sure you need a foundation to start with, that is why you start with simple stuff like the alphabet and addition and subtraction and then grammar and then multiplication and then geometry and then history and civics and then more advanced topics. All of human intelligence is, simply put, the accumulation of knowledge and the building of precept upon precept until the “Aha! moment” and you advance your own knowledge a little bit further. And you, the individual, now have control over yourself. CRT throws all that out the window. CRT says there is nothing left to learn or no point in trying to learn because you cannot achieve or create because you are oppressed by an obscure enemy that is defined in the abstract; and the only way out of this is “radical social transformation” whatever that really means (communism, fascism, one world order you decide).

I personally think this is because teachers can’t or won’t or don’t know how or are too lazy to teach kids, or too fearful to go ‘off script’ so they pass the blame onto society at large. And in so doing, they advance a larger political agenda of a more radicalized society that expects to be given things it hasn’t earned and is blithely unaware of the consequences of such foolishness.


44 posted on 11/14/2021 12:10:45 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: jonno
All I know is if you ask a leftist/liberal what part of CRT they disagree with they can't name a single issue.
In other words the left will defend the entire CRT agenda but bends over backwards to claim it is not being taught. Methinks the liberals doth protest too much.
45 posted on 11/14/2021 4:32:25 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: jonno

You can’t argue with idiots (all liberals) because all they do is act on emotions and repeat what they’re leaders tell them to.

I’d get rid of the acquaintance.


46 posted on 11/14/2021 5:14:34 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Renfrew

That’s the Kardashian way not CRT.


47 posted on 11/14/2021 5:16:13 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: jonno

Critical Race theory has been going on for a long, long time.
0bama donated his charm and rhetoric to the effort since mebe the early eighties.
0bama was a leader of the push in the late eighties at Harvard
Below, a 2012 article

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/obama-critical-race-theory-and-harvard-law-school-david-french/

From 2012
Watching Breitbart.com’s footage of law student Barack Obama praising radical law professor Derrick Bell gave me a strong sense of déjà vu. I arrived at Harvard Law School in August 1991, just a couple months after Barack Obama graduated. It would be hard to overstate the level of poison and vitriol that pervaded the school throughout the early 1990s. In 1993, GQ dubbed the law school “Beirut on the Charles” as HLS campus politics made national news.

This was the era of proud political correctness — including booing, hissing, and shouting down dissenting voices in class — combined with the vocal ascendance of the “crits.” Critical legal theorists rejected American legal systems root and branch, decrying them as the products of an irretrievably broken racist patriarchy. Their “scholarship” was unorthodox (and that’s being charitable), their voices were strident, and their student followers tended to be vicious. Many of the “crits” also had magnetic, preacher-like personalities, and it was more than a little disturbing to see the psychological hold they had over their student constituency.


48 posted on 11/14/2021 5:40:51 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: jonno

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012/03/11/what-is-critical-race-theory/

This criticism mirrored a Marxist attack long voiced in academia: that the Constitution had been a capitalist document incapable of allowing for the redistributionist change necessary to create a more equal world. To create a more equal world, the Constitution and the legal system would have to be endlessly criticized – hence critical theory – and torn down from within.

The Marxist criticism of the system was called critical theory; the racial criticism of the system was therefore called Critical Race Theory.


49 posted on 11/14/2021 5:42:59 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: jonno

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/beginners-curriculum-critical-race-theory/

https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/writing_in_literature/literary_theory_and_schools_of_criticism/critical_race_theory.html

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED506735.pdf

https://criticalrace.org/


50 posted on 11/14/2021 5:45:20 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: jonno

In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person’s choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.


Your acquaintance is denying something that is real. CRT is being taught/discussed/examined in schools. That is a FACT and that is an uncomfortable TRUTH for some people.

The above is the definition of DENIALISM. It’s sad but it is a problem for your acquaintance.

You might want to tell him/her.


51 posted on 11/14/2021 5:55:44 AM PST by Maris Crane ( )
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To: jonno

My story is anecdotal, so take it as you will:

My 7-year-ld piano student asked me where diamonds come from.

I began to explain that it was coal which had been subjected to enormous heat and pressure under the earth.

She interrupted me and went into “Recitation-Mode”.

Like a little robot, she intoned:

“THERE’S. NO. SUCH. THING. AS. CLEAN. COAL.”

It sent a chill down my spine. Did that come from her First Grade Public School Teacher?


52 posted on 11/14/2021 5:59:26 AM PST by left that other site (A Man Without Self-Control is like a City Broken Into and Left Without Walls (Proverbs 25:28))
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To: Sawdring

Clinton. What do I win?


53 posted on 11/14/2021 6:01:11 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: jonno
Any company pushing "Diversity, Equity & Inclusin" otherwise known as DEI is pushing CRT as well.

The large multi-national bank I work for is pushing DEI and that means no white men are being hired or considered for promotion. It's well known our HR people are filtering out white men.

All the hiring stats and emails introducing new employees are NON-WHITE MEN.

Proof that "DEI" is not inclusive of white men.

54 posted on 11/14/2021 6:03:22 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Renfrew

Ten years ago, a school district close to us was promoting this kind of silliness. The silliness resulted in about five young, beautiful, blond and red headed seniors having mixed race children...without benefit of marriage or presence of father, on the very street where we lived.

We don’t live there anymore, but I will never forgive the manipulation of the TEACHERS.

Mixed marriages are fine...for people who are old enough to make decisions.


55 posted on 11/14/2021 6:04:08 AM PST by Maris Crane ( )
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To: EvilCapitalist
"I'd have him/her horse whipped.

As a professed "Capitalist" perhaps you could advise as to the future of horsewhips and tar and feathers.. I think I see an opportunity there... :)

56 posted on 11/14/2021 6:04:57 AM PST by unread (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire)
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To: jonno

The public schools are full of anti-white hatred.

Stop calling it “CRT”. They will shortly be changing the name, probably to something like “Declaration of Independence Studies”.

What they call it does not matter. What matters is the content.


57 posted on 11/14/2021 6:06:41 AM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: jonno

Here’s a new drive to control our young ones.

They have our children from first grade through high school.

NOW, the perverts governing our country at this time, want to PROVIDE CHILD CARE TO BABIES AND TODDLERS, I suppose to start earlier with INDOCTRINATION.

And that moron, Pedo Joe, is touting this like it is something great...WE WILL TAKE THE CHILDREN SO MOTHERS CAN GO TO WORK.

Ain’t it beautiful.


58 posted on 11/14/2021 6:09:55 AM PST by Maris Crane ( )
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To: jonno

Do kids get exposed to CRT? No.

It’s the TEACHERS who are being indoctrinated on CRT, and who then make the philosophy part of their every day teaching. They can then deny that CRT, as such, is being formally taught in K-12.

Teachers are indoctrinated to teach that whiteness is evil, and black failures are caused by systemic racism.


59 posted on 11/14/2021 6:11:12 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: rlmorel

>>Basically, CRT is Marxism through a racial lens instead of an economic/class lens.<<

Marxist “class struggle” failed to take hold in the US, because of class mobility. In the US, working class people don’t hate the rich, they want to BE rich, and do not see barriers to a person of ability raising his economic level above his parents’.

You don’t get Marxist insurrection when the working class people who are needed to be the leaders of the insurrection are too busy improving themselves and trying to establish their own businesses.


60 posted on 11/14/2021 6:18:20 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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