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‘Rust’ shooting: Dummy rounds in Alec Baldwin’s gun would’ve looked real but felt different, expert says
Fox News ^ | November 6, 2021 | By Michael Ruiz , Lauryn Overhultz

Posted on 11/06/2021 8:25:19 PM PDT by conservative98

Blank ammunition has a distinctive look: a crimped or wadded tip instead of a bullet. But dummy rounds are supposed to be stand-ins for real bullets, inert but identical or nearly identical.

"You know, it's the most concerning thing to me when I'm on set because they are intentionally made to look identical to a live round," Bryan Carpenter, a longtime armorer whose recent work includes USA Network’s "Queen of the South," told Fox News Digital.

Depending on the manufacturing process, some have a hole in the casing. High-end dummies don’t, according to Carpenter.

Santa Fe deputies said they recovered a mix of blank rounds, dummies and real bullets from the set after the accidental shooting.

"You have to go through and just be ultra, mega careful with these things — because they look identical," Carpenter stressed.

He told Fox News Digital that the practical way to be sure a round is a dummy and not real is to shake it and listen for the distinct sound of B.B.s rattling inside.

"The only way to actually identify if a round is a dummy round or not is to physically have it in your hand and physically shake it," he said. "That's it. Period. I mean, there's literally no other way to do it."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: alecbaldwin; baldwin; dummy; gunsafety; rust
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To: DesertRhino
Doesn’t matter. The bimbo allowed real rounds on set and let people take them shooting after work. (posing for selfies in-between of course)

How do you know that? Everything I've read says these claims are false.

And your usage of the terms "bimbo" and "posing for selfies" tell me you've already judged her before the evidence has been presented.

61 posted on 11/07/2021 6:01:35 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What is wrong with you people? I see people over and over blaming the woman and focusing all their hatred on her instead of the dumb @$$ who actually pulled the trigger, or the other dumb @$$ who handed him the gun without checking it. (Which is a violation of set rules anyway.)

What is it about this woman that makes people want to scapegoat her before we've heard the rest of the facts?

62 posted on 11/07/2021 6:03:51 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Why would they need to look real if they’re never seen by the camera?

Dummy bullets are used in scenes in which the gun is pointed at the camera and you need the appearance of slugs in the cylinder. Dummy bullets are also used in scenes in which an actor is shown to be loading a gun.

Blanks are used in scenes where a flash, a bang, smoke and a recoil need to occur.

63 posted on 11/07/2021 6:06:11 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is not true according the Assistant Director’s attorney.

No wonder Alec is pooping his pants like Joe Biden.


64 posted on 11/07/2021 6:19:23 AM PST by HypatiaTaught (Sounds like a conspiracy theory? Wait 6 months and it will be truth.)
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To: HypatiaTaught

Works for me.

Bye Alec.


65 posted on 11/07/2021 6:21:54 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: Fido969

I am well aware of that.

I am also well aware of the single action loading and unloading process.

My favorite gun and it is grossly under rated by the present generation.

Nevertheless, it should be done when one is given a weapon.

And fanning is an absolute no-no. It will ruin a single action.


66 posted on 11/07/2021 6:23:57 AM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Loaded Starr Army Revolver Cylinder

67 posted on 11/07/2021 10:55:36 AM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

68 posted on 11/07/2021 11:18:45 AM PST by ETCM
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To: conservative98

Blanks simply do not look like live rounds.


69 posted on 11/07/2021 1:45:54 PM PST by GingisK
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To: ETCM

Thanks for your responses.

A circus it was indeed and Arec Barwin was the ringmaster.
Soon to be reduced to scooping up after the elephant. :)


70 posted on 11/07/2021 1:46:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: Hiddigeigei

+1.


71 posted on 11/07/2021 1:47:03 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fido969

For a revolver you just open the cylinder and look. Next you rod the barrel to make sure there isn’t an obstruction that would be launched by the blank. Shooting for checking in just really stupid.


72 posted on 11/07/2021 1:47:36 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Fido969

Dummy rounds do not contain BBs. Those would be “snake shot”: making the pistol shoot shotgun-like projectiles.


73 posted on 11/07/2021 1:49:32 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Dummy rounds don’t have primer or powder. You won’t be able to shoot a snake with the things


74 posted on 11/07/2021 5:06:36 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: GingisK

With an SAA you open the gate, not the cylinder. Secondly, what good is looking at a dummy round loaded in a gun going to tell you? Many look just like live rounds.

And far as testing for dummy rounds by dry-firing, that is standard procedure for many movie armorers.


75 posted on 11/07/2021 5:09:30 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: Hiddigeigei

That doesn’t tell you anything. Both live rounds and dummy rounds look just like that.


76 posted on 11/07/2021 5:11:54 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: Fido969
OK, take them out. Dummy rounds aren't as heavy as live rounds, and they won't have a primer.

The point is, anyone who actually knows enough to assume the position as an "armorer" would know how to keep the set safe, even from imbeciles.

77 posted on 11/08/2021 5:19:19 AM PST by GingisK
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