Posted on 11/04/2021 8:37:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Italy’s Institute of Health now counts only those who died from COVID-19 has having died from COVID-19, reducing COVID-19 deaths in the hard-hit country from over 130,000 to fewer than 4,000.
That’s a 97% decrease.
“Of the … 130,468 deaths registered as official COVID deaths since the start of the pandemic, only 3,783 are directly attributable to the virus alone,” reports Summit News.
As the Daily Sceptic’s Toby Young wrote on Thursday, “All the other Italians who lost their lives had from between one and five pre-existing diseases. Of those aged over 67 who died, 7% had more than three co-morbidities, and 18% at least two.”
PJ Media has been publishing articles since at least last summer, reminding readers of the vast difference between dying from COVID and dying with COVID. I concluded around that time that COVID kills almost exclusively those — and I hope this still doesn’t sound too callous — who were already on their way out the door.
It only took a year and a half, but now the Italian Institute of Health has confirmed what many of us already knew.
According to the CDC, 746,705 Americans have died with COVID. If we apply Italy’s new rule, the actual death count is only around 22,000 or so.
That’s not even a mild flu season.
I’m not here to belittle those who have lost loved ones, or who have been hospitalized with what is still a very nasty respiratory infection.
I am here to repeat what I’ve been saying for a year: COVID-19 is a very picky killer, and we know exactly who its prey is: the old, the infirm, the malnourished, and the morbidly obese.
“Protect the vulnerable,” I’ve written time and time again, and leave the rest of us alone.
We’ve seen the science.
Who will actually follow it?
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
They did not include those killed in vehicle crashes and in the hands of others; murder and medical misadventure.
i wonder if they saw my post on FR haha
this isn’t a clerical error or a mistake.
This is a bold faced LIE about the deaths to propagate a narrative.
heads must roll.
SOURCE:
TRANSLATING TO ENGLISH FROM ITALIAN VIA GOOGLE TRANSLATE ( IT MIGHT SOUND AWKWARD AS THE TRANSLATION SOFTWARE ISN’T PERFECT, BUT YOU SHOULD GET THE MEANING )....
In relation to what was reported by various media about the data contained in the report on the characteristics of patients who died positive for SARS-CoV-2 in Italy published last October 19, and in order to promote their appropriate interpretation, it is considered useful to specify that:
The report does not state that only 2.9% of deaths attributed to Covid-19 are due to the virus. The percentage of 2.9%, also reported in previous editions, refers to the percentage of patients who died with positive SARS-CoV-2 who had no other pathologies diagnosed before the infection.
The figure is also confirmed by the observation made since the early stages of the pandemic and widely reported in various national and international studies and reports also by the ISS, that having pre-existing diseases (? Concomitants) is a risk factor.
The joint ISTAT-ISS reports drawn up on the basis of death certificates show that COVID-19 is the directly responsible cause of death in 89% of deaths of people who are positive for the SARS-CoV-2 test
Regardless of COVID 19, it is emphasized that the presence of chronic diseases in the elderly population is very common. A recent Istat report indicates that only 15% of the elderly population would not suffer from chronic diseases and that about 52% would suffer from 3 or more chronic diseases. In view of the fact that chronic diseases represent a risk factor for death from COVID-19 and that these are very common in the general population, it is not surprising the high frequency of these conditions in the SARS-CoV-2 positive deceased population.
It is also not correct to state that the pathologies found in the SARS-CoV-2 positive deceased would have led to death “in a short time”. The concomitance of multiple chronic pathologies in the same person constitutes in itself an element of fragility generally compensated for with appropriate therapies: contracting an infection such as SARS-CoV-2 translates into an increased risk of complications and death.
In fact, since the beginning of the pandemic, an excess of mortality in the population has been recorded, that is, a higher number of deaths than in previous years, the estimates of which are periodically reported in the joint ISS-ISTAT report. It should be noted that the pre-existing pathologies reported in the report, aimed at characterizing the characteristics of the deceased, are evaluated by a group of ISS doctors through the review of a sample of hospital medical records sent to ISS by the Regions and Autonomous Provinces, and the pre-existing diseases most frequently found in SARS-CoV-2 positive deceased are shown in table 1 of the report. The most represented are hypertension, type 2 diabetes and dementia, very frequent pathologies in the population.
RE: i wonder if they saw my post on FR haha
Kindly provide us with the link to your post. Thanks.
When a lie no longer serves, the liars abandon it.
“who were already on their way out the door”
This is true of course. The Italians are just saying that most who died had comorbidities. But exactly when death would come knocking is extremely variable - next week or in ten years? Covid accelerated a lot of these, by how much, in each case, we can’t say. But the acceleration of death was significant.
My uncle died, three months after getting covid, of the effects of covid on his pre-existing degenerative lung condition, which would have eventually killed him anyway. But when he got covid he had been living with it for 10 years and was still very active, and had just retired, looking forward to at least a few good years. Thats exactly what the Italians are saying, and this acceleration of deaths is no reason to dismiss covid.
You can see this in the excess deaths over the covid period, that is the deaths above the normal trend. See link on the European analysis of excess mortality. Scroll down for country by country by week.
So why were you shooting Agent Orange in everyone’s arm?
This is silly. Its not a lie. The Italians are just saying that almost everyone who died had a “comorbidity” as they say in the US. That was acknowledged within the first month or two of the outbreak. The death rate was and is real. It certainly made a lot of people die sooner (sometimes much sooner) than they would have otherwise.
That’s a hell of a recovery
And its not “stunning”.
I tried to find your related thread, to post/cross reference, on this one....and couldn’t find it.
Thanks for posting it here.
The best argument here is that the vaccinations should have been limited to those likely to get a dangerous case of covid - that is, those with known comorbidities and everyone over, say, 50 years of age. Its imprudent bordering on the insanely fanatical to insist on jabbing healthy people under 40 and children.
Every time those inflated figures are mentioned in the media they never say that they include deaths caused by comorbidities.
If these were anything but government statistics, the fact checkers would be labeling it misleading and missing context.
In other words, if you take reasonable care of yourself, you have nothing to fear from this thing. But that doesn’t drive the fear, let the left take control and acquire power....
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