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In the rare instance where this kind of 'vibe' rears its head on a range, it's quashed asap...and yet gun owners are made out to be the crazy, careless people...

These issues speak to a larger, more pernicious attitude involving on-set safety and wellbeing — and a culture of silence that has kept people from speaking up.

“There can be a vibe of, like, ‘Well, I’m assuming they know what they’re doing,'” says Grossman, who notes this isn’t the case on “American Horror Story,” where the safety team operates under strict guidelines even when she’s firing a prop gun. “But I’ve had other jobs where I feel like, if I speak up, I feel like they’re gonna think I’m a pain in the ass or roll their eyes at me because I’m an actor. On sets, there’s this general idea that ‘somebody’ — and I’m using quotes when I say ‘somebody’ — is in charge, and many times, nobody’s in charge.”

1 posted on 10/27/2021 5:46:32 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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Real guns do SO belong on a movie screen.

Real BULLETS on the other hand…


2 posted on 10/27/2021 5:55:06 PM PDT by Skywise
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The first gun accident I recall on a set was the Hexum death I the 80s. I wonder how often it has happened before that? The sheer number of guns fired before that in TV and film is immense.


3 posted on 10/27/2021 5:56:28 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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So what will it be called? Baldwin law?

Trump curse strikes again


4 posted on 10/27/2021 5:58:19 PM PDT by RummyChick
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Cameron Kasky, a survivor of the 2018 Parkland mass shooting and gun control activist,

Had to dig up one of these, eh, Variety? Then again, there do seem to be a lot of them.

5 posted on 10/27/2021 5:58:50 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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Grossman says she usually shoots an air gun instead

Airsoft Replicas. Most pistols come with "blowback". Basically the slide makes the same motion as the real deal which makes it give a little kick, even with no ammo. Not sure about the revolvers.


6 posted on 10/27/2021 6:06:06 PM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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Hollywood made dozens and dozens of real westerns for over 50 years without this happening…. So the guns aren’t the problem


8 posted on 10/27/2021 6:17:35 PM PDT by wny ( )
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She’s probably right. When you are dealing with arrogant, selfish, ignorant, immature adult children, then sharp objects, things that go bang and normal people should be kept out of reach.


10 posted on 10/27/2021 6:19:46 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (When Satan craps another demon possessed Progressive is born.)
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Authenticity in sets, costumes, sets, and props has always been the hallmark that distinguishes a fine cinematic production from a lousy B movie. This is especially the case in period pieces like Westerns. For more than a century of movie-making (and in stage before this), firearms were used widely on theatrical sets with only the occasional mishap.

Now this is a problem. What has changed? Not the guns, of course, but the competency and maturity level of those who are charged with firearms on the set. Have you ever looked at cuts from old movie production crews and thought, “How old everyone working there looks!” In a lot of ways, men who came before us in the movie industry (and almost everywhere else) were our betters in that they valued maturity and experience rather than diversity and the cult of youth.

13 posted on 10/27/2021 6:29:01 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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i bet all the armorers out there are happy this silly koolaid haired girl single handedly destroyed their industry all in the name of being stylish...

her name is mud... next stop ONLY FANS!!!


15 posted on 10/27/2021 6:37:28 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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I’ve been in the middle of an online argument on another board with a guy who works in the film industry. He’s given me every excuse in the book. I pointed out that Hollywood seems to thing they are special and have exceptions to everything, and gun handling is just another exception example.

He went ballistic on me. He wants to blame everyone else but who pulled the trigger.

Go figure.


17 posted on 10/27/2021 6:42:42 PM PDT by Nifty
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I never would have thought the guns used in TV and movies were capable of firing. Why could they be, they’re just props, like the Star Trek Transporter. Just need to look right, don’t need to work.

But then movies are made by pretty much idiots...


18 posted on 10/27/2021 6:44:47 PM PDT by bigbob
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" In the rare instance where this kind of 'vibe' rears its head on a range, it's quashed asap...and yet gun owners are made out to be the crazy, careless people..."

Gun owners and 2nd amendment supporters have for the most part really made themselves look bad talking about this incident.

First, this happened on a movie set not a public shooting range. 99.9999% of gun owners have never been on a movie set where guns are being used in filming. In a nutshell gun owners don't have a clue what they are talking about when commenting on this tragedy.

There have only ever been a few deaths from guns being used in film or TV in decades and countless scenes in movies and TV. Considering the sheer number of times guns are used in movies one can only conclude the safety record for the film industry has been stellar to say the least. In fact Hollywood clearly has a better safety record with firearms than do shooters in the real world.

At this point in my opinion 2nd amendment supporters and firearms trainers, etc. really need to stop commenting and quoting gun safety rules until we know a little more about what happened. Stop with the firearms safety rules as they don't directly relate to safety on a movie set. Sure some of them will be similar but a movie set is a make believe situation not the real world so normal gun safety protocol would in many cases introduce more danger. Actors in many if not most cases know little to nothing about firearms. Can you imagine Angelina Jolie trying to make sure an MP5 SMG is safe before a scene? How about making sure a 1911 is clear or is only loaded with proper blank ammunition. You've got to be kidding. Even most firearms instructors have little to zero experience with blank firing guns or have even seen blanks and guns modified to use them in film and would not know how to begin to keep everyone safe on an action film movie set.

We don't know enough to point fingers at this time.

19 posted on 10/27/2021 6:55:29 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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How about anti-RKBA people are banned from using guns on movies and streaming and TV?


21 posted on 10/27/2021 6:58:58 PM PDT by DBrow
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They certainly managed to shoot a few million people in the old Westerns without killing anyone. But here is something I’ve never seen in a movie: A handgun shot with real-world RECOIL!

BTW - I’m slowly watching the old series Hunter. I hate it when Hunter is clearing a house, with a COCKED DA revolver in his hand.


22 posted on 10/27/2021 7:01:12 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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What does Charles Bronson, Clint Eastwood, JohnWayne and Keanu Reeves have in common?

They fired more guns and killed less people than Alec Baldwin.


24 posted on 10/27/2021 7:11:14 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian ( Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less! )
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How about not doing target practice with the movie’s guns ...


29 posted on 10/27/2021 7:47:32 PM PDT by x
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I’m trying to envision “Gunfight at the OK Corral” with slingshots…….


31 posted on 10/27/2021 8:59:27 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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“Real Guns Aren’t Needed on Film and TV Sets, Experts Say, Amid Calls for a Permanent Ban”

Prolly a good idea to make them all out of a lightweight plastic so they don’t further damage their already limp wrists.


33 posted on 10/27/2021 9:22:15 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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It’s California. Next they’ll prohibit anyone in the film from making a gun with their fingers and saying “bang” or nibbling a piece of bread into a gun shape.


34 posted on 10/27/2021 9:36:00 PM PDT by sphinx
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What’s the worry here? Give them real guns, real bullets and sit back and watch while the country’s most vocal idiots kill each other off...and we get some good youtube footage in the deal too!

Maybe we can get whorealdo to do a cameo in the next baldwin movie too.

This could definitely have an upside...


43 posted on 10/28/2021 7:05:04 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun the frumious Bandersnatch!)
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