-------------
There are very defined protocols an actor must go through to have a weapon on set - Prayers for Halyna Hutchins May she RIP pic.twitter.com/O5mSFKlnCq— Robert Davi (@RobertJohnDavi) October 22, 2021
Posted on 10/25/2021 12:23:05 PM PDT by conservative98
A location manager for “Rust” says at least four people were responsible for checking the weapon that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins — including gun-firing star Alec Baldwin.
“A massive mistake was made,” Stacey Mickey-Evans told Australia’s 92.5 Triple M Gold Coast.
“There are massive protocols to stop these things from happening. There are multiple checks for it,” she said Sunday.
She noted that the armorist, assistant director and the key grip are supposed to “check the gun … no matter what’s going on on set.
“And then very lastly, the actor checks the gun,” she said of Baldwin, who was also one of the movie’s executive producers.
“So there are four to five people in this stage,” she said, but “somehow there was a failure.”
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
i believe the dummy rounds don’t fire- they are just there for looks so that they look like real rounds in the guns to the audience— the blanks are the ones with the wads and powder- but I’m not sure about that
Lol. Well I’m done reading anything about the murder for now anyway.
Is “armorist” Ozzie-speak for armorer ?
Any gun safety course or responsible parent teaches you that.
You always check the gun.
Loaded or unloaded.
Going to be shooting, cleaning or storing.
You always check.
Sounds like maybe someone swapped the gun. A lot of checks get bypassed, and it’s time to start looking at deliberate action.
Safety protocols probably aren’t designed to stop a sabature.
I posted before about how one little menial labor item wasn’t done right and the entire skyscraper had to come down after six years. Mentioned how just “one mistake” can be so costly.
“Well, the laborer should have done it. But his boss should have caught it. The company’s construction review team should have caught it. And the City Inspector should have caught it.”
“Lol. Well I’m done reading anything about the murder for now anyway.”
After a lunch break, he was practicing his cross-draw and aiming at the camera.
It is not that simple. And when it comes to actors in a movie production, that statement is specifically false.
Movie scenes often require firearms to be pointed at other people or at the camera. Such conditions are inherently dangerous.
Actors are assumed to be incompetent at handling firearms safely. For most actors, that is an accurate assumption.
The movie industry has very specific rules, procedures, and job assignments to deal with this. Those procedures and rules work very well - if they are followed.
In this case, the required procedures were not being followed - to a point that may be assessed as criminal negligence.
Some people in Hollywood will do anything to get free PR.
With the vast knowledge Baldwin has about firearms, the only way he would know how to check it would probably be to look down the barrel..../S/
Why do they even have a real weapon on the movie set?
I’ve seen replicas that look pretty close and cannot fire a round
True- the experts talking about set scenes for shooting scenes stated that on sets it’s all about angles- the guns should never be pointed at others- but you watch movies- theyt constantly point them at others, even when holdung hte guns, like across their chest, the guns are pointed at others- or rest their hand over the end of the rifle barrel- i see these scenes and just cringe- they are supposed to be portraying experienced gunmen, but pull stupid crap like that?
[[I have no doubt when the investigation is all said and done, the list of safety protocol failures on this set will be numerous,]]
Me either- many things were done wrong- These folks were ‘seasoned actors and actresses’ they should have been taught by now that you can NOT take shortcuts with safety when guns are involved-
I thought the person actually holding the Gun was responsible for Everything that happens
If I were in movies, and knew Alec Baldwin would be in the same one I was in and a weapon was involved in the making of said movie I wouldn’t want to work with him!
I think his future in the movie industry is over with, finished. Maybe he can find work as a voice over in anime?
He’ll be one of those actors on Yahoo! in a “Where Are They Now?” site.
albie: Whoever holds the gun is “responsible” for checking the gun and it’s safety.
You: It is not that simple. And when it comes to actors in a movie production, that statement is specifically false.
Movie scenes often require firearms to be pointed at other people or at the camera. Such conditions are inherently dangerous.
1. Actors are required to check the gun.
2. Movie scenes almost NEVER require firearms to be pointed at people.
-------------
There are very defined protocols an actor must go through to have a weapon on set - Prayers for Halyna Hutchins May she RIP pic.twitter.com/O5mSFKlnCq— Robert Davi (@RobertJohnDavi) October 22, 2021
Baldwin bearing no responsibility, of course.
In fact, this was a functioning firearm, which apparently, some on the set had been shooting using live ammo.
According to reports there was live ammo stored with the blanks.
If the live ammo was wadcutters, the bullet would be loaded deep in the case, flush with the case mouth and, with a cursory glance it could be mistaken for a blank, by the unknowledgeable.
Ultimately, Baldwin is responsible.
The gun was in his hand and he cocked the hammer and pulled the trigger while aiming at others.
That’s my feeling as well. O seriously don’t think that Alec Baldwin has any idea how to use a gun.
Sounds like you’ve had a fascinating career! I always wanted to work as a screenwriter. Took a class in it. The most fun four days of my life.
Most of my tv/film career has been documentary work. However, I know enough in that blank wadding and debris can be a problem, so I kept the camera team clear of the shooter, even from the sides ("Battle of Horseshoe Bend") . We once used rubber guns in a cop show and I added sound effects and a 2-3 frame muzzle flash in edit, which looked great and took me a whole 5 minutes to match it. Easy and safe. Conversely, I once played an Escapee where we had a real Jeffco Colorado SWAT team. I'm 100% sure not all of those pros cleared their weapons before aiming at or near me, but they were all straight fingered.
All my years in the Army and various ranges/facilities, I’ve never heard the word, “armorist.”
My bad.
5.56mm
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.