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How Do Bad Cops Stay in Power? Just Look at Miami.
Politico ^ | 10/22/2021 | MARC CAPUTO

Posted on 10/24/2021 9:02:37 AM PDT by Mr.Unique

In a police department with a history of brutality, Captain Javier Ortiz holds a special distinction as Miami’s least-fireable man with a badge, a gun and a staggering history of citizen complaints for beatings, false arrests and bullying.

Over his 17 years on the job — including eight as the union president of the Fraternal Order of Police in South Florida — 49 people have complained about him to Internal Affairs as he amassed 19 official use-of-force incidents, $600,000 in lawsuit settlements and a book’s worth of terrible headlines related to his record and his racially inflammatory social media posts, many of which attacked alleged victims of police violence.

Yet Ortiz has repeatedly beaten back attempts to discipline him. He returned to work in March from a yearlong paid suspension during which state and federal investigators examined whether he “engaged in a pattern of abuse and bias against minorities, particularly African Americans … [and] has been known for cyber-stalking and doxing civilians who question his authority or file complaints against him.” The investigation was launched after three Miami police sergeants accused him of abusing his position and said the department had repeatedly botched investigations into him.

But investigators concluded their hands were tied because 13 of the 19 use-of-force complaints were beyond the five-year statute of limitations, and the others lacked enough hard evidence beyond the assertions of the alleged victims. The findings underscored a truism in many urban police departments: The most troublesome cops are so insulated by protective union contracts and laws passed by politicians who are eager to advertise their law-and-order bona fides that removing them is nearly impossible — even when their own colleagues are witnesses against them.

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; fakenews; florida; jbt; miami; pollutico
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To: Mr.Unique

Sounds like an episode of The Shield.


21 posted on 10/24/2021 10:04:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: Mr.Unique; All
JFTR, it would be better to show the language of Section 112.532(d) rather than take Politico’s summary at face value.
The law enforcement officer or correctional officer under investigation must be informed of the nature of the investigation before any interrogation begins, and he or she must be informed of the names of all complainants. All identifiable witnesses shall be interviewed, whenever possible, prior to the beginning of the investigative interview of the accused officer.

The complaint, all witness statements, including all other existing subject officer statements, and all other existing evidence, including, but not limited to, incident reports, GPS locator information, and audio or video recordings relating to the incident under investigation, must be provided to each officer who is the subject of the complaint before the beginning of any investigative interview of that officer.

An officer, after being informed of the right to review witness statements, may voluntarily waive the provisions of this paragraph and provide a voluntary statement at any time.
This would be unconstitutional since it goes against the federal Bill of Rights, then, as it appears to destroy due process of law.

BTW, this became law under Rick Scott.
22 posted on 10/24/2021 10:05:39 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Mr.Unique

The same way that bad politicians (almost always democRATs) stay in power: all leftists protect each other (and give each other awards too). Democrats are pushing communism so hard that they’ve got folks talking about secession again. I viewed a video on three counties in Maryland wanting to leave to join West Virginia, and you can check it out at Whatfinger News in crawler link top of page. The WV Governor says there is a pathway for that, it’s just an upstream swim. Decades ago colleges, MSM, the Democrat Party and government schools were infiltrated. 2020 didn’t just happen, it was organically grown.


23 posted on 10/24/2021 10:16:16 AM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: Olog-hai

Thanks for the clarification.


24 posted on 10/24/2021 10:17:19 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: antidemoncrat

...who support Democrats almost exclusively. You were SO close!


25 posted on 10/24/2021 10:17:22 AM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: God luvs America

> But how difficult is it to fire a tenured teacher?? <

It should be pretty straightforward, but it’s usually not. As I noted earlier, that’s not the fault of the union. It’s the job of the union to protect dues-paying members, period.

The firing process is long and involved. In my school district a bad tenured teacher must first be given three written warnings. If the poor teaching continues, only then can termination proceedings begin. And if the teacher or the union gets a lawyer involved, the process could take a year.

Let me make a few points here. In a way, that long process is a good thing. I’ve seen excellent tenured teachers targeted for dismissal because the principal was a racist. Or because the teacher wouldn’t water down his grading system. Etc. The long process tends to right those wrongs.

On the other hand, no good teacher wants to work alongside a lazy, bad teacher. We dislike them as much as the general public does.


26 posted on 10/24/2021 10:17:27 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: cuban leaf

...and ANOTHER example of a group that supports Democrats.


27 posted on 10/24/2021 10:18:14 AM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: null and void

There are far fewer psycho cops per capita than psycho teachers or psycho democrat politicians. A bad cop doesn’t spend 8 hours a day locked in a room with your kids nor do they have access to your wallet or the ability to write laws.


28 posted on 10/24/2021 10:20:19 AM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: antidemoncrat

Unfortunately, unions of all types keep bad employees from being fired.


29 posted on 10/24/2021 10:21:35 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: null and void

Thank you for listing this one, Nully.


30 posted on 10/24/2021 10:26:34 AM PDT by sport
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To: ProfessorGoldiloxx

On the flip side, a psycho cop would have little problem personally shooting your dog or you. Psycho teachers and psycho politicians rarely do that.


31 posted on 10/24/2021 10:35:53 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: ProfessorGoldiloxx; RedStateRocker
There are far fewer psycho cops per capita than psycho teachers or psycho democrat politicians.

Source please?

I'm guessing the percentages are roughly the equal.

All fields of endeavor that give power over the vulnerable attract those who crave that power.

Note that RedStateRocker explicitly included university faculty in his quote...

32 posted on 10/24/2021 10:50:46 AM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORK-N-A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala-Nancy-Axed)
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To: Leaning Right
Gosh mister, are psychopaths weeded out by the required pre-employment psychological evaluation?

Do not listen to this clip from an interview with Dr. Clarissa Cole (the real life inspiration for Dr. Clarice Starling in Silence of the Lambs) if you want to continue to believe that:

Dr. Clarissa Cole on After Hours AM April 17, 2019

Transcript available on request...

33 posted on 10/24/2021 10:57:45 AM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORK-N-A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala-Nancy-Axed)
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To: null and void

I think you misunderstood me. In my post #31 I noted that a psycho cop would be quite willing to shoot your dog, or you. I did not mean to imply that there are no psycho cops. Because there are many. You betcha there are.


34 posted on 10/24/2021 11:21:14 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right
Yeah. And darn near every department and every cop shields them from exposure and accountability.

Surely there is a better career path for them to follow?

Perhaps they can be out-placed to the Cartels? A brutal enforcer very familiar with the law and just how far the law can be pushed might be a valuable and well compensated asset.

35 posted on 10/24/2021 11:37:12 AM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORK-N-A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala-Nancy-Axed)
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To: Mr.Unique

Cops have jobs, not power.


36 posted on 10/24/2021 11:37:44 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Halyna Hutchins didn't kill herself!!! )
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To: Mr.Unique; JulieRNR21; Travis McGee; AAABEST; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; ...
Sunday fun thread.

Florida Freeper

I'm compiling a list of FReepers interested in Florida-related topics.
If you want to be added, please FReepMail me.

37 posted on 10/24/2021 11:43:16 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: Mr.Unique

when bad cops get fired, they move to florida and get hired again.


38 posted on 10/24/2021 12:23:46 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: Mr.Unique

Okay, next subject: How Do Bad Doctors Stay in Power?


39 posted on 10/24/2021 1:23:45 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? Homer Simpson)
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To: Bob434

I have a relative that recently retired from a rural Georgia police department as a chief of police and he told me an interesting story about his department. It was a small town and they immediately jumped on body cams for the officers and cruisers. He loved them as did most of the officers eventually.

He said he would about once or twice a week have a citizen come in raising hell about an abusive officer he had and wanted them fired and prosecuted. They would then produce a phone video of anywhere from a few seconds to a couple of minutes and he said usually the clip was absolutely damning for the officer involved.

He would then say well we record everything lets go to the IT room and pull up the entire encounter beginning to end and see what happened so we can be sure of what we are dealing with. He said at that point 90% plus of the complainants started backpedaling like they were on a new Pelaton bike running from a pissed off black bear! Well it wasn’t that bad, I don’t think I want to go through with this charge, I need to leave I have an appointment my dog needs a whiskerectomy, trying to get out of there. He then pulls up the entire event and clearly the original video submitted by the citizen was edited to destroy the officer. He would then talk about making false charges and the citizen would take off like a shot.

He really loved the cameras for that reason and others. He said he also noted times when officers would do things not worthy of dismissal but that needed addressed and he could do so either department wide or with the individual officer.


40 posted on 10/24/2021 2:06:05 PM PDT by sarge83
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