Posted on 10/22/2021 9:40:53 PM PDT by grundle
They said at least one of the camera operators complained last weekend to production managers about gun safety on the set.
Three crew members who were present at the Bonanza Creek Ranch set that day said they were particularly concerned about two accidental prop gun discharges on Saturday.
Baldwin's stunt-double accidentally fired two rounds Saturday after being told that the gun was "cold" — lingo for a weapon that doesn't have any ammunition, including blanks, one of crew members who witnessed the episode told the Los Angeles Times.
"There should have been an investigation into what happened," said the crew member. "There were no safety meetings. There was no assurance that it wouldn't happen again. All they wanted to do was rush, rush, rush."
A colleague was so alarmed by the prop gun misfires he sent a text message to the unit production manager. "We've now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe," according to a copy of the message reviewed by the Times.
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Nice find!!!
1st rule of any firearm to to always assume its loaded. 2nd rule is never under any circumstances point a firearm at anything you don’t intend to shoot. Alec Baldwin has had a very long career. For reasons we’ll never know, he disregarded elementary safety practices and it cost the life of one person and sent another to the hospital. Now Mr. Baldwin must live with himself.
Yes, I have to agree. Hollywood is not known for their allegiance if it cost them money or too much trouble. Baldwin isn’t a spring chicken anymore. Hollywood replaces stars, even the males, with youth. If an actor has alcohol, drug or are too much of a pain to work with, they are blacklisted. If they are no longer profitable at the box office, their agent stops getting calls.
Conservatives won’t run to see his movies because he is so unlikable in real life. Add his age, his drinking, his boorish personality and now a death onstage at his hands, and he’s just not box office gold anymore.
Alec Baldwin has enjoyed a very long career. There isn’t any conceivable way that he is ignorant of gun safety rules & practices on set.
For reasons I doubt we’ll ever be told, Alec Baldwin chose to dismiss gun safety and it needlessly cost the life of one person and sent another to the hospital. Now what happens? Accident or involuntary manslaughter? Baldwin needs to do the right thing.
>>If it’s a just a blank then it’s not ammunition. Ammo is for killing and wounding or just hitting a bulls-eye.<<
Have you ever watched Cowboy Mounted Shooting? Real guns with blank ammunition hitting target balloons up to 15ft away.
A prop gun is a real gun loaded with blanks...which can kill’ya if pointed at a vital area at close range.
Take a gander...I think this will be self explanatory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBsr4aT7tmA
There is a reason children and liberal idiots shouldn’t play with guns. It’s the same reason that children and liberal idiots shouldn’t be allowed to tell intelligent adults what to do with guns.
Appears that many safety protocols were not followed at this set. The loader certainly the most flagrant violator, but all the way down to the shooter.
I think all the “live” ammo was blanks. Apparently a blank killed her. These hollyweird fools aren’t even responsible enough for blanks. In the future give them the plastic guns with the orange tip, let them go “bang bang”. It’s a Hollyweird western, who cares about realism anyway?
Why would he aim it at somebody and pull the trigger? This was no accident
LOL! Yep. Baldwin will either blame the gun or the ammo and demand it be banned. Too bad he wasn’t an NRA member, he would have learned some basic gun safety rules, the kind I learned when I was 11 and in Boy Scouts which would have prevented this murder.
“What exact model of handgun was being used?”
The Guardian posted a picture of a cap and ball Colt so we can throw out all the loaded with blank comments, or had a live round in it. The loading of each chamber in the cylinder is a multiple step process. You put in the powder, then the wad, then the ball and last you tamp it down with the loading lever and last you puch on the percussion cap. Many back then carried extra loaded cylinders kind of like we carry speed loaders or extra magazines.
If in fact the picture they posted is the pistol in question one would have to load the ball in intentionally. I’ve also heard them say that that particular pistol had a couple of misfire’s which means the cap didn’t ignite the powder. Also read that some of the hands were shooting it early with the likelihood that it may have been a real load with a ball in it. So there’s the other chance for a misfire and the ball never left the barrel but cleared the cylinder and the ball was in the barrel when the squib/blank/no bullet chamber was fired. This is all based on the Guardian posting a pic of the gun used.
Now as far as the accidental discharge comment made in this article, all I’ll say is somebody had to pull the trigger and that’s never an accident. As much as I dislike AB I can’t blame him for being handed a prop pistol that was loaded or handled improperly before him. He may have created an atmosphere that lead up to this tragedy through some business decisions but I don’t expect him to actually have to inspect and verify individually every prop gun on the set. That was somebody else’s responsibility and they failed.
As far as those saying “why was live ammo even on the set?”. It might surprise them just how much live ammo is actually used in some movie sets. It’s used to show actually bullet impacts instead of the unrealistic pyrotechnic impacts we see so often.
It was murder.
In a movie, pulling the trigger is totally unnecessary. The sound can be dubbed
“”It was murder.
In a movie, pulling the trigger is totally unnecessary. The sound can be dubbed””
There’s a lot more to a gun firing than just the sound. Good grief! The flash, the smoke in this case and the recoil.
Too bad Gabbi was strangled
Two rounds accidentally? You’d think the first big unexpected BANG would have interrupted the second simply for being so startling.
How can grown men, relatively old men, not understand elementary gun safety, including the need to check to see if a gun is loaded?
I learned this stuff before I was a 10 year old girl.
I get that some people were not raised around guns, but when your job requires that you use guns, it’s on you to educate yourself.
You would think that after several live rounds were discharged by mistake that EVERYONE on the set who had to deal with firearms would have triple or quadruple checked the guns before use (including the actors). The fact that this didn’t happen is gross negligence on everyone’s part.
CGI for flash? Acting for recoil?
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