Prove it, scrub.
And you just said you ain't 'pushing the vaccine'. Do you even listen to yourself?
#ReadYourOwnDiary
Posted on 10/18/2021 5:27:19 PM PDT by ransomnote
What is the rate at which samples of blood from those known to be infected, are submitted, and processed for testing of various strains?
What is the geographical distribution patients subject to those tests, and how has it changed over time?
Are the conclusions affected by the unknown percentage of asymptomatic carriers or patients with "long haul" COVID?
How much does the relative population of different alleles of the virus, in an individual patient, change over time? Is this affected by mutations of their original infection, or by poorly-defended superinfections from others?
I’m sorry. What is it you’re responding to?
What is that supposed to mean?
If you can’t figure that out, it doesn’t matter, does it?
Guess not.
MORE:
Peshawar, Pakistan, from April to August 2020. ICU mortality 75-94%
The overall mortality was 77%. Non-invasive ventilation (NIV) was administered to 61.8% of patients. Mortality was higher for invasive mechanical ventilation (IMV) (93.6% vs 66.7%, p<0.001) and for over 60 years (87.3% vs 72.3%, p=0.019). Mortality without co-morbidities was 75.2%.
AND, further down, same link:
“Studies have reported nearly 100% mortality amongst patients on invasive mechanical ventilation (IMV) during the peak of the pandemic [10]. Mortality among patients on IMV was 88.6%, 97%, 43%, 31%, 88.8%, 22%, and 40%-60% in New York [7], China [11], UK [12], Spain [13], Australia [14], and India [15], respectively. With time, the mortality in ICUs declined to around 40% [4]. In the early days of the outbreak, there were no international guidelines for managing patients admitted to the ICU, and the rationing of resources based on local policies in overwhelmed ICUs might have added to divergent data”
memory lane “there’s nothing we can do” July 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dGjAkDfdO8&t=296s
Less scary numbers:
BY CFR, May 2020: overall CFR was 6.25% USA on May 15, 2020, according to OurWorldData. By April, 2021, it had dropped to 1.8% and 1.61% in Oct, ‘21. The drop is in spite of the introduction of Delta in approx May/Jun 2021. A reduction not caused by Delta getting weaker.
OurWorldData Chart:
https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid
In one report from CDC looking at 3/1-8/1, 2020, 20% excess mortality:
Between March 1 and August 1, 2020, 1,336, 561 deaths occurred in the US, a 20% increase over expected deaths based on death data from the National Center for Health Statistics (Figure).
https://www.cdc.gov/library/covid19/pdf/2020_10_23_Science-Update_Final_Public.pdf
Refined to ‘covid only’ deaths 2020 - 11% (after 2 months of vaccinations and 6 months of refining treatment):
According to a CDC report from April 2021:
In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths† occurred in the United States. From 2019 to 2020, the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9%, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population. COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause of death or a contributing cause of death for an estimated 377,883 (11.3%) of those deaths
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm
Anyone who promotes going back to those days of having no defenses, of no vaccines, no monoclonals, no tocilizumab, no testing, no ongoing research, and to the days of shortages of PPE, beds, O2 and personnel that existed last year, and persist this year, or who insists on transferring personal responsibility onto vaccinating kids, is off their bleeping rocker.
You forgot the proven efficacy of Ivermectin (over 60 studies), particularly if given early before the virus has multiplied.
Some cynics elsewhere on the web started calling the coof virus "The Boomer Remover".
How much of the drop in fatality rates, is due to
a) the "burning up the combustible fuel" of disproportionately killing the most susceptible first
b) the spread to a much larger pool of a much less vulnerable population
Note that April 2020 was before widespread introduction of the jabs.
Did you cycle through the .gif of the Johns Hopkins time series data across many countries before and after the jabs, from ~Jan 2020 up to ~Oct 2021 (in other words, not cherry picking any small time slice coincidentally favorable to any predetermined/desired conclusion) ?
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Prove it, scrub.
And you just said you ain't 'pushing the vaccine'. Do you even listen to yourself?
#ReadYourOwnDiary
Many fewer than you seem to think.
See the post by blueplum near the end of the thread which documents the fall in fatality rate through April 2021 which is still before the massive rollout of the jabs.
Now tell me how many would have lived if 5 Dem Governors hadn't put COVID patients into nursing homes, and if the Dems and Press hadn't done a full-court press against Ivermectin (stopped COVID in its tracks in Uttar Pradesh in India, being used in Japan and a couple of other countries).
I have links to studies showing its effectiveness.
dropping like flies to get past the first paragraph.
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I am sick to death of this type of hyperbolic exaggeration used to try and diminish the actual downside of the current situation.
These people can go suck eggs with Brandon.
As the smartest guy in the room, I have no choice but to be the referee.
My arguments are not nuked.
Your arguments resemble Nagasaki in the spring.
They are hardly addressed.
Not only addressed, but devastated with prejudice.
I made a statement of fact.
Dropping a whole bunch of names doesn’t make the fact wrong.
I don’t control who gets arrested or who doesn’t.
I don’t control the courts.
Just because your definition of “pushing the vaccine” means any slight innuendo that may imply the vaccines might have made a difference.
Well that’s not pushing the vaccines in my world.
I don’t try to sell people on them. I don’t encourage people to take them or leave them as your peeps do.
I encourage people to make a sound choice and decide for themselves as it’s a medical decision.
I promote freedom of choice.
Some here go beyond promoting fear and daily horror of all manner of things.
For example:
Strange Life Forms living and growing in the vaccines.
ADE (Not one single case so far).
Micro Chips.
The vaccines ARE the virus.
Miscarriages and birth defects. (The numbers are still normal for any year)
And of course the favorite, the vaccinated are going to all die within 3 months, 6 months, this Fall, one year, 5 years, about 10 years from now.
Who is pushing what?
Seriously.
David Chase.
is pushing what?
The fake poison vax.
Its like you're working on commission.
#SalesmanOfTheMonth
Well Good Morning Sunshine!!
Pretty early over there on the West Coast.
If the courts are corrupt or unreliable, you are arguing in bad faith (and knowingly so) in telling people to go to the courts.
“According to a CDC report from April 2021:
In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths† occurred in the United States. From 2019 to 2020, the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9%, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population. COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause of death or a contributing cause of death for an estimated 377,883 (11.3%) of those deaths
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm“
A couple of notes.
Increase in age-adjusted death rate is 113.5 per 100,000 population.
There are (roughly, this is a ballpark figure for “rough and ready” conclusions) 350,000,000 people in the US.
So 350,000,000/100,000 = 350,000/100 = 3500 hundred thousands in the US.
So the increase in deaths in the US for that time frame is
113.5 x 3500 = 397, 250 (increase).
The % of that due to COVID (underlying or contributing)
is 11.3% of 397,250.
or just shy of 50,000 deaths — 44889.25.
One might make the case even more strongly by looking at the actual deaths by age cohort due to COVID.
I don’t have the link on me, but the CDC earlier showed that 78% of the dead from the coof, were over age 65, IIRC.
Or 22% of the deaths are working age (at max, discounting people under 18).
which works out to (combining with the 44889 above) 9875 people in the working population who died of the coof over and above the expected death rate.
This is not sufficient grounds to lock down the entire country and force hundreds of millions to get an experimental gene therapy.
Moderna Highlights New Clinical Data on its COVID-19 Vaccine
September 15, 2021 at 4:00 PM EDT
(snip)
Analysis of Open-Label Part of Phase 3 COVE Study (July-August 2021)
Today, Moderna is sharing a new analysis of the incidence of breakthrough COVID-19 cases among vaccinated participants in the open-label portion of the Phase 3 COVE study between July 1, 2021 and August 27, 2021. The goal of the analysis is to quantify the impact of waning immunity in the face of the Delta surge in the United States. The analysis compared participants initially randomized to mRNA-1273 (vaccinated from July-October 2020; n=14,746; median follow-up of 13 months since first dose) against participants initially randomized to placebo who were crossed over and vaccinated following Emergency Use Authorization (vaccinated from December 2020-March 2021; n=11,431; median follow-up of 8 months since first dose).
In the analysis, 88 breakthrough cases of COVID-19 occurred in the more recently vaccinated group (49.0 cases per 1000 person-years) compared to 162 cases in the group vaccinated last year (77.1 cases per 1000 person-years). The reduction in incidence rates for participants vaccinated more recently compared to participants vaccinated last year was 36% (95% CI: 17-52%). A Cox proportional hazards model showed similar results after adjusting for age and risk factors for severe COVID-19. Fortunately, only 19 severe cases were observed. While not significant, there was a numerical trend towards a lower rate of severe cases in the group vaccinated more recently (3.3 per 1000 person-years) compared to the group vaccinated last year (6.2 per 1000 person-years).
The increased risk of breakthrough in this analysis quantifies the impact of waning immunity in the COVE study between the median follow-up time of 8 months and 13 months since first dose. The Company believes this adds to evidence of potential benefit of a booster dose of mRNA-1273. A manuscript has been submitted as a preprint to medRxiv and will be submitted for peer-reviewed publication.
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Translated, the efficacy of the shots against COVID wanes over time.
Whether due to genetic drift, ADE, or loss of antibody titer (cf the NEJM article elsewhere in this thread), I don’t yet know.
They need to repeat this study at intervals to see if the decay rate of efficacy is constant over consecutive time intervals. It’s gonna be a pain to try and disentangle the effects without (say) doing detailed blood work on those who have breakthrough cases.
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