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Just How High Could the Dow Go? [leftist slime op-ed]
New York Slimes ^ | October 18, 2021 | Zachary Karabell

Posted on 10/18/2021 2:03:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

...Even so, stocks have seen huge gains relative to wages. What then to make of the growth of the Dow? The more-than-fivefold gains for the tech-heavy Nasdaq? Is it a sign of an economic system badly tilted toward the wealthy? Proof that financial markets exist in an alternate universe of capitalism, ever expanding as the prospects for so many millions continue shrinking?

These days the politically fashionable solution is to ratchet up the corporate tax rate from the current rate of 21 percent to as high as 28 percent, raise the rate on long-term capital gains from 20 percent to as high as 39.6 percent and potentially tax some unrealized gains as well. But while the urge to penalize thriving companies and investments may be a justifiable reaction to the wage-stock market disjuncture, taxes will do little to address the systemic problems separating the haves from the have-nots.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: dow; inflation; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; stockmarket; zacharykarabell
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Mr. Karabell is the founder of The Progress Network and the author, most recently, of “Inside Money: Brown Brothers Harriman and the American Way of Power.”

1 posted on 10/18/2021 2:03:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

He could just buy an index fund and get on the train instead of bitching about it.


2 posted on 10/18/2021 2:05:59 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Too much is never enough for the left.

3 posted on 10/18/2021 2:07:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Regulator

Ya think he’s sitting out the market? That would require working for a living.


4 posted on 10/18/2021 2:08:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Too much free stuff is never enough for the left.
5 posted on 10/18/2021 2:10:06 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: SunkenCiv

$146.55


6 posted on 10/18/2021 2:10:07 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv

Stock market is basically a artificially fiscally induced government program via the financial “iron triangle” at this point. A lot of companies/”the man” have no business offering prices the way they are with obscene high P/E ratios (And yes, factoring in R&D too, which is still too damn high and artificially inflated to keep the “Boomer” retirement program humming along for now at least).


7 posted on 10/18/2021 2:10:27 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: SunkenCiv

Its gonna go real high, you watch, ‘cause Joe’s building back better!


8 posted on 10/18/2021 2:10:42 PM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: SunkenCiv

If the fair value of a stock drops by 10%, because of a bad economy, but the value of the dollar drops by 20%, because of the government printing press, do you suppose the price of the stock will go up, or down?


9 posted on 10/18/2021 2:11:45 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: SunkenCiv

People who vote dem are possessed by demons.


10 posted on 10/18/2021 2:14:39 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: SunkenCiv

You gotta point.

Maybe he’s just knockin’ the market cuz he’s got a big short position going...


11 posted on 10/18/2021 2:15:36 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: SunkenCiv

How high?

I’ll go with 3,500,000,000,000 - after inflation, of course!


12 posted on 10/18/2021 2:18:59 PM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORK/N'A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala/Nancy Axed)
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To: SunkenCiv

Most of the reason that the Dow is going up now is because it is riding along with inflation. Study the Jimmy Carter years. The Dow did pretty well then, too.


13 posted on 10/18/2021 2:19:14 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: PIF

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4004706/posts?page=22#22


14 posted on 10/18/2021 2:20:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: right way right

*People who vote dem are possessed by demons.*

Dems are into index funds also. So why do they vote against their own interests? It’s like the blacks and Jooz.


15 posted on 10/18/2021 2:22:30 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Just figure out what companies congress subsidizes and which they undermine and buy accordingly


16 posted on 10/18/2021 2:26:28 PM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imaginationd)
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To: Vigilanteman

Whut?

The market went up one per cent during Carter’s term


17 posted on 10/18/2021 2:27:35 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: SunkenCiv

The Markets Can Remain Irrational Longer Than You Can Remain Solvent.


18 posted on 10/18/2021 2:44:48 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv

For many years now, the market has been divorced from what’s happening in the general economy.

When banks pay no interest, or you actually end up with less purchasing power because of the low bank rates, then, people will be seeking to put their money elsewhere, and the market seems to be the beneficiary of the orphaned money.

Now, with inflation running wild, why even think about putting your money in a bank. At least in the market, there is a chance of earnings or NOT LOSING money.

The market rising is no longer an indication of a good economy. NO matter who is president or leading things.


19 posted on 10/18/2021 2:50:38 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

When interest rates fall, the effective yield of stocks falls via the stock price rise. Stocks with no yield rise based on comparative analysis of the company’s value. Since Reagan became POTUS, interest rates have shrunk, and have never gotten to the levels they reached during the Carter Disaster.

The Chinese prop up US gubmint spending by diverting some of that fat trade surplus into federal debt, which keeps the yuan’s value from creeping up against the USD and keeps US interest rates low.

This means we’ve got interest rates deregulated, but capital formation is largely not through banks, but relies on venture capitalists, and various investment pools (mutual funds, ETFs, pension funds, hedge funds).


20 posted on 10/18/2021 2:57:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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