Posted on 10/16/2021 4:28:07 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Will it simply be a “coincidence” if we allow Taiwan to be absorbed by China?
The U.S. Navy is preparing to discharge every one of its sailors who refuse to be vaccinated against the China Virus. Apparently, it isn’t enough that the Biden administration’s policies have caused rampant inflation, unemployment, crime, and supply chain issues. Or that it is in the process of gutting the nation’s transportation, public safety and healthcare sectors. Now it will gravely harm national security by forcing out up to 25% of our Navy personnel. (This after top brass tried to purge the military of those it deemed overly patriotic or too openly Christian. No wonder suicides in the armed services rose by nearly 50% this year alone.)
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Context matters. Without it, one could use your example of Washington to justify absurd mandates.
Small pox vax was far more controversial in Washingtons time.
People railing on about vax..whether for or against...should read up on Washington. I fully believe we would not be the USA without his brilliance on smallpox
So you dont want to give the military power to force vaccines? Is that what you are saying
“The U.S. Navy is preparing to discharge every one of its sailors who refuse to be vaccinated against the China Virus.”
All part of the Soros, Obama, Biden plan to gut the military of conservatives and make it into the Democratic Party’s police force or make it so weak they need to have the UN come in and become our police force.
I am saying that forcing this vaccine for this illness is a wrong and dangerous decision being made by political operators and should be questioned.
“If Trump made that decision for the military would you blast him and say he is unfit“
YES
Would you then say trump as President and commander in chief should not have the authority to force vaccines on military
RummyChick, I have no idea how many vaccinated soldiers died of small pox in 1775...but enough people were dying of it that Washington in my opinion reasonably needed to direct his men take the vaccine in order to save the formation. I’ll assume your facts and grant that he did it for military necessity.
What I am saying is that if COVID-19 was around in 1775 no one would have even known it. The life expectancy in 1700 was 43 years.
COVID -19 is NOT a threat to young people. THAT IS A FACT. However we already know that the vaccines are killing young people needlessly and causing short term damage and unknown long term side effects.
I am not questioning WHO should make the decision. I am questioning the WHY and the MOTIVES of those who are making decisions which clearly are not based on the threat or outcomes they require for military success.
COVID-19 is NOT a threat to the formation, however the misplaced mitigation strategy being pursued by those with authority is driving people out of military and the suicide rate up, not just up but through the roof.
Legal challenges are underway and I think they will likely succeed... in the mean time I am convinced there are some sadistic bastards at the NSC who know exactly what they are doing and frankly they probably already have the effect they are looking for....
Driving out the critical thinker, promoting the pliant. The current regime is not looking for leaders who take orders like “CONDUCT OFFENSIVE OPERATIONS ON THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT” (Given to Eisenhower in WWII).
The current regime in my opinion is looking for Generals who blindly OBEY.
And that is dangerous for us all. Those Generals who blindly OBEY are the ones that will not hesitate to turn their formation against the American people.
These mandates make no logical sense given the lethality of the virus as well as the FACT that we have no idea what the long term effects of taking an mNRA vaccine will have on young people.
What if a soldier doesnt want the measles vax..is that okay too?
What if a muslim soldier doesnt want a vax because of religous reasons ..putting others at risk. Should that be allowed?
Soldiers died from the innoculation itself. I cant speak to what happened after they survived the forced vax
Not appropriate analogies in this situation. Dangerous and ineffective vaccines mandated for nefarious reasons should not be foisted on our warriors. The regime in place is capable of atrocities.
“ If Trump made that decision for the military would you blast him and say he is unfit.”
If “if’s and buts” were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas.
You’re going off on a tangent about what the military can order it’s troops to do.
Sometime context helps...
Active Duty Deaths from covid in 18 months: 40
Active Duty Increased deaths from suicide 2020 over 2019: 82
Deaths from Smallpox in Revolutionary War: 17,000
Deaths from battle in Revolutionary War: 8,000
Its not a tangent.
You either give them the right or you dont. Vietam vets were drafted. They had no choice. And they were vaxxed
These days military is voluntary...i dont remember a draft in 2020. So...you agree to be vaxxed when you sign up
Btw...military is forced to get the flu shot if i remember correctly.
Its not even good year to year..or even the year you get it if you get hit with a different strain. Its guesswork
Exactly! 99% survival rate and a vaccine that normally would have already been pulled from use because of the horrible side effects. Smallpox is a high percentage killer and covid very low, apples and oranges.
My nephew is in the Navy and loved it until January and then he got a target on his back because he is an evil conservative. It’s like being in some kind of Orwellian nightmare having to watch every word you say and never expressing an opinion on anything unless if it Maoist approved crap.
If offered a general discharge under honorable conditions he’s gone and a lot of others as well. They don’t want to leave but right now they are hunted daily by the Marxist brass. We are going to get our asses kicked by China and right now I don’t see any warriors willing to fight for the USA because they are hated by their government. We are in a perilous time because nobody takes us seriously, even the US military.
The disease is the excuse to coerce.
Using a corona virus, a virus that mutates vs using a human virus that does not mutate, is a lame excuse for an argument.
I don’t think Joe Biden ever served in our military, did he?
Joe’s never had a Real Job
This experimental, unapproved, what ever the hell it is can not be compared to any of the vaccines or shots I received during my 4 years in the Marine Corps (1966-70) which were FDA approved and not experimental. No one, I repeat, no one has the authority to force you to take this current what ever the hell it is. Rather than leave the military and expose the civilian population to the mercy of its enemies, ask the bastards pushing this what ever the hell it is to show you the legal citation by which they have the authority to inject this shit into your body.
You’re asking pointless questions.
Here’s what’s relevant: Is it practical for a military to fire up to 30% of its active and reserve troops, for a disease with a CFR =0.025% among its members?
“The case fatality rate within the services remains low, at .025%, compared with 1.6% in the general U.S. population.” (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/10/07/92-of-active-duty-troops-have-been-vaccinated-mandatory-deadline-nears.html)
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