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1 posted on 10/13/2021 8:45:26 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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“The vaccine provides a private protection — vaccine vs severe disease”

The money quote of the article. To be clear, you have posted an article that definitely states that the vaccine prevents serious illness. So remind me again, why you think the vaccine is bad? This is your data — your article — not mine.


2 posted on 10/13/2021 8:50:39 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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23. Covid “vaccines” are totally unprecedented. Before 2020 no successful vaccine against a human coronavirus had ever been developed. Since then we have allegedly made 20 of them in 18 months.

Scientists have been trying to develop a SARS and MERS vaccine for years with little success. Some of the failed SARS vaccines actually caused hypersensitivity to the SARS virus. Meaning that vaccinated mice could potentially get the disease more severely than unvaccinated mice. Another attempt caused liver damage in ferrets.

While traditional vaccines work by exposing the body to a weakened strain of the microorganism responsible for causing the disease, these new Covid vaccines are mRNA vaccines.

mRNA (messenger ribonucleic acid) vaccines theoretically work by injecting viral mRNA into the body, where it replicates inside your cells and encourages your body to recognise, and make antigens for, the “spike proteins” of the virus. They have been the subject of research since the 1990s, but before 2020 no mRNA vaccine was ever approved for use.

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24. Vaccines do not confer immunity or prevent transmission. It is readily admitted that Covid “vaccines” do not confer immunity from infection and do not prevent you from passing the disease onto others. Indeed, an article in the British Medical Journal highlighted that the vaccine studies were not designed to even try and assess if the “vaccines” limited transmission.

The vaccine manufacturers themselves, upon releasing the untested mRNA gene therapies, were quite clear their product’s “efficacy” was based on “reducing the severity of symptoms”.

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25. The vaccines were rushed and have unknown longterm effects. Vaccine development is a slow, laborious process. Usually, from development through testing and finally being approved for public use takes many years. The various vaccines for Covid were all developed and approved in less than a year. Obviously there can be no long-term safety data on chemicals which are less than a year old.

Pfizer even admit this is true in the leaked supply contract between the pharmaceutical giant, and the government of Albania:

the long-term effects and efficacy of the Vaccine are not currently known and that there may be adverse effects of the Vaccine that are not currently known

Further, none of the vaccines have been subject to proper trials. Many of them skipped early-stage trials entirely, and the late-stage human trials have either not been peer-reviewed, have not released their data, will not finish until 2023 or were abandoned after “severe adverse effects”.

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26. Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal indemnity should they cause harm. The USA’s Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP) grants immunity until at least 2024.

The EU’s product licensing law does the same, and there are reports of confidential liability clauses in the contracts the EU signed with vaccine manufacturers.

The UK went even further, granting permanent legal indemnity to the government, and any employees thereof, for any harm done when a patient is being treated for Covid19 or “suspected Covid19”.

Again, the leaked Albanian contract suggests that Pfizer, at least, made this indemnity a standard demand of supplying Covid vaccines:

Purchaser hereby agrees to indemnify, defend and hold harmless Pfizer […] from and against any and all suits, claims, actions, demands, losses, damages, liabilities, settlements, penalties, fines, costs and expenses

https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/


3 posted on 10/13/2021 8:52:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Cases mean nothing, one must look at deaths.

You also have to break it down by age or demographics.

The earliest vaccinated were the most susceptible so it is conceivable the 20% may reflect a much lager percent of the risk group that accounts for almost all the actual cases or deaths.

It’s a good observation you’ve made, but you need to do further analysis.

It may also reflect ups and downs of cold and flu type diseases and the vaccine roll out was at a down turn.

It may be the vaccine is not very effective at all.

We certainly know it’s not as effective as traditional vaccines.


4 posted on 10/13/2021 8:55:37 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Or perhaps the disease was invented for the purpose of the vaccine....but I digress.


5 posted on 10/13/2021 8:56:02 PM PDT by patriot torch
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A hypothesis - countries with higher vaccination rates also tend to have higher covid test administration rates. Both depend in large part on being more “advanced”, richer, greater degree of organization and resources to throw at the problem. The richer you are the more you can test, the more covid you find, as well as being more able to do mass rollouts of vaccination. So these contradicting factors throw off this relation.

All this data of any sort suffers from both un-normalized variables as well as a lack of understanding, still, on how environmental factors affect covid. We dont know which variables matter, and how.


7 posted on 10/13/2021 8:59:59 PM PDT by buwaya
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Fractal Trader, I have commented on some of your previous posts, noting the lack of confirmation for the articles’ claims. This is nothing against you personally. It is, I think, a necessary skepticism.

But I’ve got to tell you something. This post is absolutely the real deal. I followed the link in the article to a very interesting paper, one that needs to be discussed on the national level. From that paper:

“At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days...”

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7.pdf


9 posted on 10/13/2021 9:03:41 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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I CHOSE to get vaccinated....my CHOICE.

If the vaccination is even half of what it is claimed to be I really don’t give a rat’s rump whether anyone else is vaccinated or unvaccinated, masked or unmasked, coughing or calm, close or distant!

I am pro VOLUNTARY vax.
I am barely tolerant VOLUNTARY mask.
I am anti MANDATORY vax.
I am vehemently anti MANDATORY mask.

I have ZERO need to “feel safe” on the basis that everyone in a venue, a health care facility, or any other place has dutifully shown their papers.

America will remain “the land of the free” ONLY if we demonstrate that we are “the home of the brave”!


17 posted on 10/13/2021 9:20:20 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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India has figured out the solution but the RATs don’t want solutions. They want the excuse for Mail In Voting to continue so they can keep on stealing elections.


22 posted on 10/13/2021 9:47:49 PM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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There is a lot to learn from this graph, but most obviously, the COVID vax does not stop infection. The vax provides a private benefit (protection vs. severe disease), but limited public benefit (protection vs. disease spread)

And I would even question this claim simply because it’s been made by the same people who stand to benefit financially the most from the sale of the vaxxes

That’s too much a conflict of interest for me to blindly accept their claims.

32 posted on 10/13/2021 10:59:03 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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PERUSE LATER.


39 posted on 10/14/2021 12:55:06 AM PDT by NetAddicted ( Just looking)
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Double-Vaxxed Contracted Covid at Higher Rates than Unvaccinated, UK Data Shows

https://www.infowars.com/posts/alarming-double-vaxxed-contracted-covid-at-higher-rates-than-unvaccinated-uk-data-shows/


40 posted on 10/14/2021 1:19:03 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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Harvard research has confirmed bugger all.

The stats are crap.

All of them.

The only things we know for certain are that bodies haven’t been piling up like cord wood, that Deep State has lied to us from the get go, and that CoupFlu has NEVER been about public health.


46 posted on 10/14/2021 2:54:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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BTT


59 posted on 10/14/2021 6:18:47 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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Data only covers folks 65 to 74 years old.

What about 18 to 65?.


64 posted on 10/14/2021 11:32:26 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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