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"This is a typical developing world mafia economy now where they control the chokepoints to drive up prices and you are forced to cull your herd, thereby ensuring more shortages"

"Just brought a whole hog home and picking up a half beef next week. Life is good. Talk to local ranchers, buy a freezer, and fill said freezer with meat."

"With mass shipping at a near standstill world wide the USA one of the largest producers of food in the world should have no shortage.. Once the cold warehouses are completely full which should be any time now the farmers will be stuck with animals and produce over the winter which will back up farm production next year.. It almost seems like some hidden hand is doing this to create a fire sale of these packing and canning companies like we had with the pork industry which was gobbled up by Chinese investors.."

"Hedge funds buying out and consolidating the chokepoints (in this case the slaughterhouses) with cheap central bank money to squeeze margins - you name the industry, it is happening"

"There are absolutely meat shortages but they have to do with production in the plant, increased exports (though not so much in the past couple of month), depletion of freezer inventory and increases in demand.

Plants cannot operate at full capacity right now due to covid restrictions on the lines. Exports way up -especially in pork- because China is taking everything they can get and will pay premiums for it."

1 posted on 10/12/2021 1:00:37 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Well if you can’t trust an anonymous crappy blog who can you trust


2 posted on 10/12/2021 1:02:21 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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To: Mount Athos
Can’t even get dates to butcher animals.

I never could get any of my dates to do it either................

4 posted on 10/12/2021 1:04:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Mount Athos

I don’t know if it is true but read here (possibly a dubious source) that the $3.5 trillion “infrastructure” bill includes a quite high license fee for milk cows, steer, and sows. Since the latter two only have one production cycle, a $500-$700 fee per cycle will definitely impact the price.

As for the current issue, I suspect the problem is not in the production but other supply constraints and inflation - energy, transportation, plastics, cleaning etc. Getting goods moved is a real problem especially the “last mile”. Items are sitting in distribution hubs a long time and only a few who manage their own fleets can handle it.


5 posted on 10/12/2021 1:07:09 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Mount Athos

Note to self.
I need to put out to the locals that I will fix cars for meat.

Moo.


6 posted on 10/12/2021 1:08:17 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Ping.


9 posted on 10/12/2021 1:09:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mount Athos

This is close to home for me.

Most producers were locked in to a packer. So if you sold pigs to Tyson, you can’t to Hormel or for your own label. During covid, the packing plants shut down and producers were left with meat on the hoof, so they either did pirate sales or buried them.

Now, fewer producers want to sign such contracts. The packers are mad, because a lot of good quality meat is being sent around them. Which is causing political pressure to cut the small guys out.

Long term, you will not have big packing houses. The Elite do not want you to eat meat. The question is will smaller butchers survive.


11 posted on 10/12/2021 1:10:12 PM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Mount Athos
Another reason (I believe) that Unions need to go. It's much easier for the government to organize this type of manipulation through their Union partners.
12 posted on 10/12/2021 1:10:21 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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“Hedge funds buying out and consolidating the chokepoints

They’ve been destroying this economy for decades. But, since Congress gets rich off of them. Since Pelosi can accumulate over $300,000,000 in worth despite being dumber than dirt. Since Feinstein can own a $41,000,000 on Lake Tahoe and her husbands company can get paid from government contracts, despite being an absolute moron.

NOTHING STOPS THEM.

One thing did. He did his best. They got rid of him.


16 posted on 10/12/2021 1:11:29 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Mount Athos

A friend has about 100 head of black-angus cattle. He takes them to a local, family slaughterhouse. This plant is making bookings now for November 2022! 13 months in the future!


17 posted on 10/12/2021 1:12:13 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mount Athos

We sell on the hoof but it is hard to coordinate finished beef dates with slaughter and butcher appointments. We manage though.

Lots of happy customers but we are all sold out for this season.


18 posted on 10/12/2021 1:12:23 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: Mount Athos

Except that.... I think there is a shortage of freezers and/or long wait times for many large appliances. ??


20 posted on 10/12/2021 1:13:42 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Mount Athos

Abolish the FDA and USDA and you will have plenty of affordable food.


21 posted on 10/12/2021 1:14:15 PM PDT by rey
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My local Kroger butcher tells me he throws away more meat than he sells some weeks. He can't budge on prices. He says it's horrible.

Apples and tasteless peaches for $2.49 a pound is ridiculous as well. They just rot too.

33 posted on 10/12/2021 1:47:28 PM PDT by blackdog (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: Mount Athos
Missouri livestock auction reports

Cattle

Meat Goats - almost twice the price per Cwt(100lbs)

It's the cow farts

Lots of reasons. Over 80% of goat meat consumed in the US is imported, mostly from Australia. Many/most people in the US can't afford a frikkin $20 ribeye. Grass fed beef is getting more popular among those who can afford it and that doesn't go through the auction yards. Most of it is farm to plate or CSA sales. With prices going up across the board, many people are eating less meat and/or buying only the cheaper meats and cuts of beef. We personally won't spend more than $5-6.00/lb on any meat aside from salmon.

37 posted on 10/12/2021 1:59:15 PM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: Mount Athos

I paid less for a pound of burger as Smiths this week than past weeks.


41 posted on 10/12/2021 2:28:50 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Mount Athos

Correct

Demand in free fall
Deflation

O.C.
Overstock Control


43 posted on 10/12/2021 3:08:39 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: Mount Athos
"This is a typical developing world mafia economy now where they control the chokepoints to drive up prices and you are forced to cull your herd, thereby ensuring more shortages"

YEP, this is intentional. Democrats want the system to collapse...

It's why Harris isn't interested in the border- it's why our 'Secretary of Transportation' doesn't give a damn about bottlenecks in our supply chains.

49 posted on 10/13/2021 9:21:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (Military suicide deaths last year: 580- By COVID:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOC_dcuJO48)
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To: Mount Athos

Market price today is 1.25/lb on the hoof.


52 posted on 10/13/2021 11:01:29 AM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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