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Former President Donald Trump reveals he had Pfizer vaccine before he left office, and might get booster shot 'if I felt that it was necessary'
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 3 October 2021 | CHRISTINA COULTER

Posted on 10/04/2021 2:57:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Former President Donald Trump has revealed he got Pfizer's COVID vaccine before leaving office - and that he may get a booster shot if he thinks it is necessary.

Trump had not previously announced which vaccine he had received.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: getvaccinated; paranoid; q; qplus; trumpapproved; trumpgotitthenmetoo; trumpvaccine; trusttheplan; trustthevaccine; trusttrump
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To: rlmorel

The force part of this only became an issue after reluctance/defiance grew. Trump took great pains to get this to the point it could be administered. And he rightfully has tried to take a few victory laps based on his efforts. The problem is there has always been a threshold of the % vaxxed to obtain herd immunity. That woefully fell short. And I believe a substantial amount of reluctance/defiance is because he’s no longer President. He himself has said he’s not been a stronger proponent of the vax because of that very reason. On the other hand, it seems this is beginning to have an effect on the economy again. Which may be impacting his financial interests. And that could be prompting him to be a bit more public with his personal experience.


21 posted on 10/04/2021 7:22:51 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Pollard

I am a huge Trump supporter, but I don’t agree with him 100% and this is one area.

I think a lot of folks in his generation have a kind of unquestioning trust in the medical establishment and pharmaceutical companies. Maybe because they grew up in an era when medicine was based on science. So much has changed as politics, power, and money have tainted healthcare at the highest levels.

I have seen the negative effects of this blind trust with my in-laws and parents. Particularly with my mother-in-law who had 8 different doctors and was taking 20 different medications - and never questioned any of it. Some of the meds were duplicate treatments as well as contraindicated for her. For years we tried to get her to get a second opinion as she had so many different symptoms, but she trusted her many docs and refused.

When she moved near us, we set her up with one, great internist and it turns out all of her ills were due to stage 4 lung cancer, that had spread to her spine, kidneys, and brain. He estimated she had the cancer for many years.

I have heard this repeated so many times with others, their parents won’t get second opinions or look at the meds they take because they just trust medicine, no matter the source. Many think the CDC is the gold standard and you cannot convince them otherwise.


22 posted on 10/04/2021 7:24:52 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Berlin_Freeper

So what?

He’s an adult able to make his own decisions, just like I am.

And I will NOT be a guinea p;ig for the Deep State and big pharma and President Trump’s personal decisions will not influence me in the least as I am not a crowd follower, aka sheeple.


23 posted on 10/04/2021 7:35:00 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There It Is – Study Finds Predominance of Antibody-Resistant SARS-CoV-2 Variants in Vaccine Breakthrough Cases in San Francisco Bay Area

What this study finds is exactly what vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche (Belgium) has been predicting.  The predominance of antibody-resistant SARS-CoV-2 variants in vaccine breakthrough cases from the San Francisco Bay Area, California. [DATA LINK HERE]

The California study finds that vaccinated individuals are more susceptible to COVID variant infections than unvaccinated.  Geer Vanden Bossche has been warning that vaccine antibodies would suppress natural antibody responses.  The vaccine antibodies take control of the immune system and defend only against a targeted virus.

Among vaccinated individuals, a COVID variant virus is not recognized by the specialized antibodies provided by the vaccine, and the natural antibodies have been programmed to stand down.

(MedRxiv) Associations between vaccine breakthrough cases and infection by SARS coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) variants have remained largely unexplored. Here we analyzed SARS-CoV-2 whole-genome sequences and viral loads from 1,373 persons with COVID-19 from the San Francisco Bay Area from February 1 to June 30, 2021, of which 125 (9.1%) were vaccine breakthrough infections. Fully vaccinated were more likely than unvaccinated persons to be infected by variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization.

[…] These findings suggest that vaccine breakthrough cases are preferentially caused by circulating antibody-resistant SARS-CoV-2 variants, and that symptomatic breakthrough infections may potentially transmit COVID-19 as efficiently as unvaccinated infections. (read more)

Be careful around vaccinated people, because they can carry a more resistant form of COVID-19.  Additionally, the highly specialized antibodies in the vaccine create a need for a booster for each antibody resistant variant.  Israel is already on booster #2.

Dr. Vanden Bossche has been using Israeli data and showing how the widespread vaccination rates were creating pressure on the virus to mutate into variants with higher levels of contagion. The unvaccinated group has been keeping the pressure down by defeating the virus and carrying natural immunity. However, as the unvaccinated population is increasingly made smaller, the pressure on the virus to mutate increases. Subsequently, these mutations stay at higher or more effective levels of infection.

Israel is already on its second round of booster shots.

The long term impacts of antibody dependency are unknown.  Some doctors and scientists are already worried that normal cancer fighting antibodies will become dormant and we could see an explosion of unusual cancer clusters due to antibody suppression caused by the COVID vaccines.

Remember, no one knows exactly what this targeted vaccine will do to the overall human immune system as it responds to other viruses or infections.  The vaccinated population are the human trial subjects, and the unvaccinated population are the control group.

In the U.K. data study there were:

157,400 Delta variant cases amid the fully vaccinated (26.52% of total cases), and 257,357 Delta variant cases amid the unvaccinated (43.36% of total cases).  However, when it came to severe outcomes 63.5% of deaths were from the fully vaccinated group.  [source]


24 posted on 10/04/2021 7:36:40 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch
Thread, here.....

There It Is – Study Finds Predominance of Antibody-Resistant SARS-CoV-2 Variants in Vaccine Breakthrough Cases in San Francisco Bay Area
The Last Refuge ^ | 10/03/2021 | Sundance

Posted on 10/3/2021, 10:17:01 PM by SeekAndFind

What this study finds is exactly what vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche (Belgium) has been predicting. The predominance of antibody-resistant SARS-CoV-2 variants in vaccine breakthrough cases from the San Francisco Bay Area, California. [DATA LINK HERE]


25 posted on 10/04/2021 7:39:02 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: LilFarmer

My m-i-l was on duplicate meds from different doctors who didn’t carefully investigate what she was already on before writing her a prescription and when someone finally sat down and went through them all, we were able to pare her meds list down to about half.

I think you are right about the older generation, since they lived in a day when the medical community still overall had some integrity.

Can’t say that any more.

I don’t trust them at all, and that’s a combination between my mostly negative experience with a vast number of doctors and this mast cell thing, and watching and reading the news for the last year and a half.


26 posted on 10/04/2021 7:39:54 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: LilFarmer

“it turns out all of her ills were due to stage 4 lung cancer,”

I feel so sorry for her/you.

My best friend was born in 1944, and she was of the generation where doctors were just one level under God. She’d had breast cancer in her 30s, and licked it. Then in around 2016 she started feeling not well and her doctor said it was “just” arthritis, and/or a few other annoying but not critical things.

She trusted him and believed him. We sat across a quilting frame six hours a week and I could tell that she was not improving. “Are you OK?” “I’m fine.” “The hell you are! You are NOT fine!” This went on for a year.

Then ... ding ding ... she saw an oncologist. Breast cancer had metastasized everywhere. Her last year on earth was dreadful.

But believe the doctor, no matter what. I guess I’m that same generation, but I don’t fall for everything as many do. These last two years have been a huge eye-opening experience when it comes to politics v. medicine.


27 posted on 10/04/2021 7:48:24 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (“If TPTB can force you to take a shot, what CAN'T they force you to take?” - T. Carlson (paraphrased)
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To: Caipirabob

LOL.

The vaccine manufacturers have made over $20B off the cv19vx and they have just been accused of bribing Australian politicians to push mandates.

Meanwhile an actual conservative organization, Liberty Counsel, is getting religious exemptions for anyone who wants them.

So it is anti-cv19vxers who are “well-funded”?? That’s almost the kind of propaganda that I would expect who an Epstein fanboi.

PDJT was excellent on therapeutics. He’ll lose evangelical support over this vax. But it goes to show how much power the pharma has even over Presidents.

Why are FReepers promoting the CCP bioweapon?


28 posted on 10/04/2021 8:18:26 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: joesbucks
I am not sure I would go that far regarding threshold for "herd immunity".

Sweden has achieved a "herd immunity" though it is easy to search and see that all of the usual state-aligned sources and media do all they can to throw shade on that characterization and state it is misleading or false (such as 'differences exist in how herd immunity is defined', etc.)

But the fact is, as of today, Sweden has 63% "fully vaccinated" and the USA has 56% "fully vaccinated". Yet they never closed the country, destroyed their economy, impacted the learning and futures of their children, and impinged on their populations freedoms the way many countries have including the USA and Australia.

Here are a few links, for what they are worth (and I do keep in mind the difference between a country like Sweden and a country like the USA with their disparate populations):

Percent Vaccinated partial/full for USA, Australia, and Sweden

The case fatality rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases

My contention on all of this is that shutting everything down, giving the government more power to control our lives, surrendering our freedom of movement, association, worship, denying children real education (remote learning is a terrible thing) and psychologically damaging our children by removing them from social interaction at at stage in life where they need it most) is so far out of line with the risk inherent in this pathogen that what we have done as a nation is criminal.

29 posted on 10/04/2021 9:28:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

He said that months ago.


30 posted on 10/04/2021 9:40:26 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Caipirabob

The hysterics are coming from the left...Censor, mandate, limit purchase of alternatives.

Trump would not have supported mandates. He is 75. That is different than even suggesting let alone mandating that kindergartners get vaccinated as the left is doing.


31 posted on 10/04/2021 9:45:44 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: heavy metal

President Trump got Vaccinated scares you????

What are you??
A 7 year old girl??

Does your Mum know you’re on the internet??

Don’t be afraid sweetie……..someone else you never met got a big scary shot, not you.

Now go see what’s on the Disney Chennel.


32 posted on 10/04/2021 10:03:56 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: rlmorel

I know. We gave up those freedoms long ago for polio, measles, chicken pox.


33 posted on 10/04/2021 10:31:52 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: heavy metal

I think it is terrible that people, some weak minded, some sick, some ideologically inclined, and some who simply go along with all this are used as tools to further an agenda.

People who are elderly SHOULD fear this pathogen, ESPECIALLY if they have co-morbidities. They should take appropriate action as they see fit.

This makes me angry. I know so many people who are terrified because of the media and government fear-mongering. A number of those people have the capability to think independently on it, but...they still trust the media and the government to tell them the truth, with appropriate context.


34 posted on 10/04/2021 10:36:45 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: joesbucks

I would have to disagree in that I don’t think we did give those up.

We may have made that choice for children in school, but we didn’t do it for adults, able to make their own decisions, to cause them to get fired from their jobs and be unable to work in their field and provide for their families.

I will also say, I completely understand hysteria around polio, just as one example-while the fatality rate may not have been huge, the likelihood that it disproportionally affected young people with a lifelong, often severely crippling (if not death) outcome that would involve a expensive and constant intensive medical care ranging from total paralysis and life in an iron lung to selected loss of motor control.

I don’t blame parents for being frantic wanting a vaccine and solution to polio. I just do not view COVID on the same plane in any way.


35 posted on 10/04/2021 10:43:31 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Freedom56v2
I'm sure President Biden, his mistresses and the Deep State wont let President Trump run again unless he gets the booster.
36 posted on 10/04/2021 10:48:58 AM PDT by Theophilus (Dems fear fear. Christians fear God. )
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To: David Chase

i never said anything about trump getting vaccinated scaring me...

i refuse to be an experimental lab rat for our government...

please stop playing your stupid games...


37 posted on 10/04/2021 10:58:50 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: rlmorel

my father, his wife, and their entire church congregation got the experimental shots in march of this year...

they’ve all been sick for the past 4 months tossing flu like symptoms back and forth to each other...

my father and his wife quit going to church...

something isn’t right with these so called “vaccines”...


38 posted on 10/04/2021 11:15:58 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: heavy metal

I think if it is provided, and people want to get it, that should be their decision.

I think there are enough questions regarding efficacy, unknown side effects, use of fetal tissue in their development, etc. where people may have justification for saying they would rather take their chances with a pathogen that if you are in the 50-59 year old range, is as likely to cause your death as being killed in a pedestrian accident.

I think people should be allowed to make that choice, not forced to make the choice to get it or keep a job, be allowed to travel, or any other of a number of things they want to punish people with.


39 posted on 10/04/2021 11:40:58 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: rlmorel

i agree it’s should be all about choice...

everyone should keep in mind that the people involved with stealing the 2020 election are the same people that are pushing these experimental shots on everyone...


40 posted on 10/04/2021 11:55:58 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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