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Data From England Show 63% Of Delta Deaths In Last 7.5 Months Were Fully Vaxxed
Twitter ^ | 09/30/21 | Senator Ron Johnson

Posted on 10/02/2021 6:55:49 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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@POTUS says this is a pandemic of the unvaxxed.
 
Data from England show 63% of Delta deaths in last 7.5 months were fully vaxxed.
 
Why won’t @CDCgov share US data with the American people?
 
What is the justification of mandates and refusal to recognize natural immunity?
 
https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1443777704994672644
 


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 63; bigfoot; chemtrails; chinavirusvaccine; creativemath; deaths; deltavariant; england; lowerdeathrate; mortality; selectivedata; vaccinated
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To: aquila48

People don’t understand basic math, apparently.

The responses you are getting are mind boggling...even scary.


61 posted on 10/02/2021 10:18:35 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: qaz123
The UK is one of the most “vaxxed” places on the planet. Over the last 7.5 months, out of the 100 people that have died after getting covid, 63 of them were fully vaccinated. What more do you need to know than almost twice as many vaccinated people are dying than unvaccinated?

If 63% of the deaths came from 82.5% of the population and 37% came from 17.5% of the population, the 82.5% of the population obviously had significantly higher protection. What about this are you not following?

62 posted on 10/02/2021 10:23:34 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: aquila48

But I’m sure reality plays no role in your decision. Or maybe you simply don’t like getting vaccines and would rather live (or die) with those odds. That’s definitely your prerogative. People make foolish choices all the time.......There we go. The typical snide bullsh*t response from someone who got the shot, isn’t so sure about getting the shot now that all the data is coming out, and how you have to jumble numbers to make yourself feel good.

I had covid. Got over COVID. Emphasis....I GOT OVER COVID. Just like people get over the flu. They don’t survive the flu.

There’s a meme floating around that goes something like...It’s not the job of the unvaccinated to protect the vaccinated. It’s the vaccine’s job to protect the vaccinated.

Does it bother you that folks that have died for other reasons, like getting into a motorcycle accident were counted as a covid death?
Does it bother you that the Director of Public Health, in the state of Illinois, stated that NO MATTER HOW A PERSON DIES, IF THEY HAVE/HAD COVID AT THE TIME OF DEATH IT WILL BE COUNTED AS A COVID DEATH? So, if Gang Member Pookie gets his head blown off by Gang Member Peanut, but they test Pookie at the morgue and he has COVID, that his death will be counted as a COVID DEATH?

Does it bother you last year there were less than 1700 cases of the FLU reported in the US last year and that the CDC had to admit that the PCR test can’t differentiate between the flu and COVID?

The data Sen Johnson presented.

Out of 100 people that dies as a result from getting COVID. 63 of them were FULLY VACCINATED.

To use your analogy....If 100 people died as a result of a car accident, 63 of them were wearing their seat belt and still died.

You, also have made your mind up. You got the shot. You were told it was going to protect you from COVID.

YOU WERE LIED to and then told that it won’t keep you from getting COVID.

YOU WERE LIED to again and were then told that you wouldn’t be able to transmit the virus, one that you weren’t supposed to get because you got the shot.

YOU WERE LIED to again, when they told that it will make your symptoms less severe.

YOU WERE LIED to again when they told that it will keep you from dying as opposed to those who haven’t received the shot.

It would appear that you also have no problem with the CDC being forced to change the decades old and accepted definition of what a VACCINE does, to accommodate what is floating around now.

The data that Sen Johnson shows says...of 100 people that died as a result of COVID - 63 of them were fully “vaccinated”.

If you have “buyers remorse” over getting a shot, for a virus that your probably already had or will have a 99.7% chance of getting over, that’s on you.

I’m not judging you. I’m not making snide remarks about being foolish because you’re afraid of your own shadow. I’m betting you still wear your mask when you’re driving your car, alone.

Can it and is it serious for some people? Absolutely.

One thing I’m not going to do is play statistician over justify an action or a response, so I can feel good about myself and try to shame others that aren’t scared of the boogeyman like you are.

Israel is the most vaccinated place on the planet, with boosters, and folks are still dying over there.


63 posted on 10/02/2021 10:23:44 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Enlightened1

The stat manipulation, after being normalized, equates to about 80% of deaths have had the jab.

Bottom line is the injury rate is about 150,000 out of 160 mullion vaccinated, so still about 0.1%. Same for unvaccinated, so why the penalties for not talking it? One essentially is doubling risk of injury by taking it and it doesn’t immunize you. Worse, it is making unchangeable effects to your immune system.


64 posted on 10/02/2021 10:24:03 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Enlightened1; qaz123
The only data the public is allowed to see from the CDC is the VAERS report.

Not true...one of the largest health care providers in the country just released the preliminary results of a comprehensive 6M+ study, which follows mRNA vaccinated patients for three years...specifically monitoring them for 23 different adverse reactions. It is the largest and most comprehensive study of its kind in the country.

This peer reviewed research was recently published online at JAMA

Surveillance for Adverse Events After COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination

65 posted on 10/02/2021 10:26:57 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I follow that 99.7% of the population will get over COVID, most without ANY medical intervention.

I follow that the masks do NOTHING. By Fauci’s own admission or was that just a secret between him and one of his friends.

I follow that the 6’ rule was made up out of thin air with not logic, reason or research behind it.

I follow the fact that INDIA has basically eradicated COVID with the help of $2.95 worth of decades old, tried and true, medication.

I follow the fact that a 60-something year old woman, in a coma, on a ventilator, on deaths f*cking door, whose family had to sue the hospital TWICE was given a treatment and she walked out of the hospital a few days later.

population obviously had significantly higher protection.....What I’m not following is.....the shot offers you NO Protection. By their own admission. Good Lord.

I follow that Israel is the most vaccinated place on the planet, with their people getting 3rd and 4th boosters and they’re still getting sick and dying.

I follow the hypocrisy by all the same people that are dropping these draconian mandates on the people and not adhering to them.

If you got the shot and still get sick, it is not the person that you got it from fault. It is the fact that the shot you got DOES NOT work like they told you it does.


66 posted on 10/02/2021 10:38:57 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: aquila48
And the reality is that 82% werd vaxed and 63% of those who died were vaxed. That means that 37% of of the unvaxed 18% died.

IMO, your logic is inescapable. In Israel, Haaretz reported similar data. And I believe that an understanding of mortality rates in the fully vaxed would require data on the age and preexisting state of health of the breakthrough victims. I would expect the more numerous older vaxed, at risk persons to be in more danger than say healthy, unvaxed young adults..

67 posted on 10/02/2021 10:40:45 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
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To: Enlightened1

our citizens are being required to be used as experimental lab rats while our government doesn’t require the invaders it’s spreading across our country to participate in the same experiment...

our government’s actions and double standards prove the kung flu is a scam...


68 posted on 10/02/2021 10:44:06 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Enlightened1

Senator Ron Johnson Thread bump!


69 posted on 10/02/2021 10:46:08 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: mac_truck
Wrong again, dummy...

You seem to have missed the point completely again... Polio not mutating readily has almost nothing to do with its inability to infect animals under normal circumstances. The only relevance is that because it does not readily mutate it still is not causing problems for animals outside of the lab. But fear not my friend Fauci and company could easily create a gain of function variety that could wreak havoc in the animal world.

The following is a link that applies directly to you.

https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

70 posted on 10/02/2021 10:47:44 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Enlightened1
One of the bartenders at my local bar, along with her husband, came down with Covid a little more than two weeks ago. She and her husband are both unvaccinated, but have been taking several of the OTC products that have been recommended to stave-off severe Covid infection.

Her symptoms resembled those of a common cold, and I don't think either of them was hospitalized. She returned to work yesterday, but his recovery is taking longer He weighs over 300 pounds, which is probably one of the things holding him back.
71 posted on 10/02/2021 10:55:20 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: mac_truck
If you look at those same Worldometer graphs for India, you will see an even more impressive drop in both cases and deaths. India, with a much lower vaccination rate than the US or England, had a huge Covid spike in the Spring. It ended in late June and there has been no increase since then. India used Ivermectin and other treatments, as well as the vaccines.

In the US, Florida and several other southern states saw huge drops in cases after they ramped-up the monoclonal anti-body program. This seemed to alarm the Biden administration, so they put a squeeze on the supply, forcing Florida to buy directly from the manufacturers.

I am unvaccinated, but will not try to talk anyone out of taking them. I do not have a smug attitude of invincibility, and take several OTC products that have been reported as Covid prophylactics.

I do not claim that vaccines aren't effective in providing most people with a temporary protection against a severe case of Covid, but I am leery of them because some prominent medical authorities - along with everyday doctors - have predicted the vaccines will have deleterious effects in the long term, some of which are already showing up in clinical practice.
72 posted on 10/02/2021 11:11:32 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: mac_truck
"The question is—what happened to polio after the polio vaccine?"

My response to that is that the Covid vaccines aren't the polio vaccine, and they don't work in the same way. I checked the other day, and in the past 50-60 years, the US has pulled dozens of drugs off the market, some of which had been in use for many years. Yet some people act as if a drug is proven safe as soon as it is allowed to go on the market.
73 posted on 10/02/2021 11:15:08 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Republican Wildcat

Its weird how you and the other vaxx pushers pick specific threads to comment on yet ignore others


74 posted on 10/02/2021 11:25:55 AM PDT by roving
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To: mac_truck

Wrong. The chart shows that the Delta variant is more contagious yet less deadly. That’s it. That’s exactly what vax hesitant experts predicted would happen and why they opposed mass vaccination. In fact, one even said what’s occurring is the worst case scenario.


75 posted on 10/02/2021 11:43:04 AM PDT by JoeRed
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To: Enlightened1
So, checking my score card,

The unvaxxed die from covid.
The vaxxed die from covid … and from the vaxx too?

Yikes … so wait, can you tell me why we want the vaxx, again?

I must have missed that part of the sales pitch the first time.

76 posted on 10/02/2021 12:56:23 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: JoeRed
The chart shows that the Delta variant is more contagious yet less deadly.

No...you'd have to reproduce the UK data in other countries with low vaccination rates to say mortality was lower due to Delta being weaker.

For example...the data from India suggests the Delta variant is actually much more deadly than earlier variants...over 4,000 deaths per day vs. ~1250 per day earlier


77 posted on 10/02/2021 3:15:48 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Steve_Seattle
My response to that is that the Covid vaccines aren't the polio vaccine, and they don't work in the same way.

Corona viruses are different also...with all sorts of nonhuman hosts for them to hide in.

Everything from cave bats to tigers in the zoo can transmit Covid

78 posted on 10/02/2021 3:25:27 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

We have no data on whether our breakthrough cases broke through Pfizer or J&J or Moderna.

My wild guess is that they were mostly Pfizer, which seems inferior or its dose was too low.

Of course this would not be reported, even if it were known.


79 posted on 10/02/2021 5:18:22 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

In the UK, Pfizer and Astra Zenaca comprised over 90% of the vaccines distributed.

There is some breakdown by vaccine type buried in the data which is from August.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand2july2021


80 posted on 10/02/2021 5:47:36 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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