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Data From England Show 63% Of Delta Deaths In Last 7.5 Months Were Fully Vaxxed
Twitter ^ | 09/30/21 | Senator Ron Johnson

Posted on 10/02/2021 6:55:49 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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@POTUS says this is a pandemic of the unvaxxed.
 
Data from England show 63% of Delta deaths in last 7.5 months were fully vaxxed.
 
Why won’t @CDCgov share US data with the American people?
 
What is the justification of mandates and refusal to recognize natural immunity?
 
https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1443777704994672644
 


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 63; bigfoot; chemtrails; chinavirusvaccine; creativemath; deaths; deltavariant; england; lowerdeathrate; mortality; selectivedata; vaccinated
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To: JoSixChip

[ Or it could be that the vax doesn’t do anything but put you at risk of clots and death, and no one knows the long term effects. This whole thing has been one lie after another, we are not getting the truth. It has been used to gain government control of everything and everyone. They have used it to change the trajectory of civilization. Not in a way that we want, but in a way they want. ]

Too many serfs in the world for their liking....

Why do all major civs of the past hit a point where they start in wholesale with the human sacrifices????

Because the leaders fear the populous because they know deep down they are doing sketchy crap and the only way to protect themselves is to WEAKEN the plebs they rule over.


21 posted on 10/02/2021 7:44:22 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: SmokingJoe

What is the starting date of the 7.5 month period so the numbers are comparable?


22 posted on 10/02/2021 7:49:49 AM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders,)
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To: Enlightened1

“The “vaccines” are working.

They are a cure for Wuhan flu hysteria, not a vaccine for the flu.

Hysteria sufferers who get the vaccine overcome their hysteria, drop their precautions and get the flu.

The success of the vaccinations is measured by the number of vaccinated who get the flu.”


23 posted on 10/02/2021 7:50:18 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: daniel1212

This really explains why Merck and Pfizer are doing therapeutic pills now. They need to get in front of cheap generics treating the failing vaccines.


24 posted on 10/02/2021 7:53:18 AM PDT by teevolt
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To: SmokingJoe
You can't believe anything on covid from the CDC.

Especially when it concerns countries other than the United States.

25 posted on 10/02/2021 7:59:02 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: RummyChick

Not directly to your point but a similar trail was blazed from amantadine (long a generic of Symmetrel, an anti-Parkinson’s drug) to Tamiflu. Amantadine had been noted to ameliorate flu symptoms in people who had contracted influenza. So the pharmaceutical company picked it up. made a minor chemistry change by attaching a methyl group, and marketed it as Tamiflu. In their defense, you’d have to say going through clinical trials and achieving FDA indication is mega bucks, but I’ll bet they never ran a head to head against amantadine. But nobody was going to run the trials for a generic to get a new indication, so in the long run it’s a win despite the cost difference of Tamiflu vs. amantadine.There never was the concerted effort to suppress off label use of amantadine for flu that there has been to suppress ivermectin.


26 posted on 10/02/2021 7:59:16 AM PDT by sopo
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To: Enlightened1
Of the 51,281 deaths involving Covid registered in England between 2 January and 2 July 2021:

640 (1.2%) were people who had received both vaccine doses

This total includes people who had been infected before they were vaccinated

Some 458 deaths (0.8%) were people who died at least 21 days after their second dose

Just 256 deaths (0.5%) were people who were both fully vaccinated and who had their first positive PCR test at least 14 days after their second dose

source: UK Office of National Statistics

27 posted on 10/02/2021 8:06:56 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Jim Noble
But the largest NUMBER of deaths occurs in unbelted people

Your statement is true if you count the numbers of people killed back to the time when motor vehicles were first introduced in the world, over 100 years ago. But your statement is no longer true...

“The latest 2020 data show that seat belt use has risen to 90.3%, and unrestrained occupant deaths have dropped to 38.5% in 2019.”

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/occupant-protection/seat-belts/

Currently a little more than a third of of deaths occurs in unbelted people.

You have been caught red handed making a misleading statement that is identical in nature to the types of statements being made by people advocating for the “experimental vaccinations”.

The vaccines were helpful against the original Fauci/CCP flu that effectively no longer exists. They are worthless against the Delta and other current strains that make up over 99% of current cases.

28 posted on 10/02/2021 8:07:26 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: SmokingJoe
The vaccines are a joke.

No, the jokes on you...for believing the phony statistics.

29 posted on 10/02/2021 8:14:39 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Of the 51,281 deaths involving Covid registered in England between 2 January and 2 July 2021:

The Delta Variant did not become the dominant strain in the UK until June of 2021. The statistics that you are citing are basically worthless. The game changed when the Delta Variant and others made the experimental vaccines obsolete. Before that time they had value; now they do not.

30 posted on 10/02/2021 8:17:13 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

The question is—what happened to polio after the polio vaccine?

Why did polio not have “variants” that spread like wild-fire through the vaccinated population.

Something smells fishy with the Covid vaxxes.


31 posted on 10/02/2021 8:17:19 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: mac_truck
No, the jokes on you...for believing the phony statistics.

The pot is calling the kettle black. LOL!!!

32 posted on 10/02/2021 8:19:14 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: alternatives?; SmokingJoe; qaz123

“If 80% had been vaccinated on average over this time period it means the 20% unvaccinated had 37% of the deaths. This would translate into the unvaccinated being 2.35 times more likely to die from Covid than the unvaccinated. (.37/.20)/(.63/.80).”

Excelleng point.

And if 100% of the people were vaxed then 100% that die from covid (because the Vax isn’t perfect) are vaxed. But that doesn’t tell you whether the Vax works compared to no vax.

As you say, one needs to know the % of people vaxed to arrive at any meaningful conclusion. The higher the % of Vaxed the higher the % of people that die are vaxed.

Just looked up that number for the UK and 82% of over 16 years of age have gotten both shots as of last week. Don’t know what the average % was over the past 7.5 months.

Sadly we’re in a world of “lies, damned lies and statistics”. And both sides manipulate statistics to push their agenda.

Bottom line, you need to do some really deep digging of your own to uncover the truth, and even then you have to be aware of your biases, else you end up fooling yourself.


33 posted on 10/02/2021 8:21:14 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: fireman15

Wrong...its the same data Ron Johnson is citing in his dopey presentation.


34 posted on 10/02/2021 8:21:53 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: fireman15

You’re not very bright...and it shows.


35 posted on 10/02/2021 8:22:27 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Enlightened1
Why won’t @CDCgov share US data with the American people? What is the justification of mandates and refusal to recognize natural immunity?

Because it's not about health; it's about total control.

36 posted on 10/02/2021 8:29:42 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: cgbg
Why did polio not have “variants” that spread like wild-fire through the vaccinated population.

Polio is a different beast. Virologists correctly predicted that vaccines would lose their effectiveness against the original Fauci/CCP strain quickly. That is why the drug companies introduced the experimental mRNA vaccines; they were suppose to maintain their efficacy for a longer period of time. But the experiment has now failed in a spectacular fashion.

But fear not. As India demonstrated in an incredible way, Delta can be treated effectively with good and inexpensive protocols for those who develop symptoms. And what people are left with is actual immunity against Covid that is many times more effective than any current vaccine can provide.

The thing that I find disturbing is that the vast majority of doctors and health care providers who were participating on this forum have now disappeared. Too bad that so many here attacked them viciously for sharing their points of view.

37 posted on 10/02/2021 8:30:36 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

The question is why is polio “a different beast” that would not allow variants?


38 posted on 10/02/2021 8:33:54 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: mac_truck
You're not very bright...and it shows.

Actually I was reading at college level while still in elementary school. But you are somewhat correct as in my old age I have slipped. Entertaining myself by trading insults with people such as yourself clearly demonstrates this!

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39 posted on 10/02/2021 8:39:16 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: qaz123

The CDC specifically stopped tracking breakthrough cases for those who got the vaccine.


40 posted on 10/02/2021 8:39:59 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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