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1 posted on 09/29/2021 1:02:57 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

>> in those under 50 repeated vaccination is, on balance, more-dangerous than the virus and in those under 18 it is always more-dangerous even from the first use.

Predators are going after the youth.


2 posted on 09/29/2021 1:16:12 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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All this sounds really good Karl, but you are basing this on the premise that we live in a nation of laws, we live in a Nation of Men and the Law means what we want it to mean when we need it, got it?


3 posted on 09/29/2021 1:22:35 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Red Badger
Biden's position, and that of the Federal Government, is unsupportable on both the facts and the law.

Seriously: that doesn't matter.
It's a Brave New World.

4 posted on 09/29/2021 1:25:01 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: Red Badger
So for someone under 17 the risk of death from Covid-19, assuming you get infected, is 2/100,000 (or 0.002%) For someone 18-49 it is 50/100,000 (or 0.05%) For someone 50-64 it is 600/100,000 (or 0.6%) And for someone 65+ it is 9,000/100,000 (or nine percent)

These are obviously too-broad ranges but they're the CDC's numbers. We could take a stab at disentangling them using the NYC Coroner data, for example, and I have -- but we don't have to in this case because the CDC has provided enough data on their own, within the Federal government, to complete the analysis.

VAERS says the risk of death shortly following vaccination for Covid-19 is at least 15,386 / 200,000,000 (remember, this is "died with" not "died of" in both cases of vaccination and infection) or 7.69/100,000. This, by the way, is wildly higher than that for the flu shot (about 20-30 deaths per year across 170 million shots delivered) and thus is very unlikely to be a coincidence.

But even that analysis is too generous to the vaccine. It doesn't correct for the greater incidence of vaccination than infection. They want to vaccinate everybody, whereas maybe only 30% of the population might contract COVID, at least to a degree that they'd end up getting counted in the stats. So to be apples to apples, you need to calculate the risk of dying from/with COVID for the ENTIRE population, both infected and uninfected, which would make the author's point even more strongly.

5 posted on 09/29/2021 1:26:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Red Badger

Good read, thank you.


6 posted on 09/29/2021 1:28:16 PM PDT by WinMod70
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Sue the bastards!


8 posted on 09/29/2021 1:32:04 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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Can we get a team of about 1,000 really aggressive, really nasty lawyers to go after this hammer and tongs for about six months pro bono? It would do the country an enormous service.


10 posted on 09/29/2021 1:38:18 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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Ping


12 posted on 09/29/2021 2:16:11 PM PDT by WhattheDickens? (Funny, I didn’t think this was 1984…)
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To: Red Badger

The judiciary is not going to save us.

On to the next option.


13 posted on 09/29/2021 2:23:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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The major constitutional problem with government “vaccine” mandate is this imo. Non-elected governent bureaucrats, like those under the umbrella of the unconstitutional (imo) Health and Human Services Department, don’t have the express constitutional authority to make such decisions imo.

More specifically, the delegates to the Contitutional Convention had intended for popularly elected government officials to accept the risk of getting voted out of office for voting the unpopular way on such decisions. (Government health officials perhaps need to be popularly elected.)

Unfortunately, corrupt career lawmakers have learned the dirty trick of front-ending their legislative responsibities with unconstitutional, so-called government regulatory agencies so that non-elected bureaucrats can make lawmakers’ unpopular regulatory decisions for them.

This unconstitutional transfer of power not only gives crook lawmakers a way to keep their voting records clean, making it easier to get reelected, but it also scandalously weakens the voting power of ordinary citizens.

Insights welcome.

The ultimate remedy for unconstitutionally big, alleged election-stealing, Democratic Party-pirated federal and state governments oppressing everybody under their boots...

Consider that all the states can effectively “secede” from the unconstitutionally big federal government by doing the following.

Patriots need to primary federal and state elected officials who don’t send voters email ASAP that clearly promises to do the following.

Federal and state lawmakers need to promise in their emails to introduce resolutions no later than 100 days after start of new legislative sessions that proposes an amendment to the Constitution to the states, the amendment limited to repealing the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.


14 posted on 09/29/2021 2:30:07 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Red Badger

A new term to remember: “Vaccinazification”. Using an illusory threat of a disease to impose fascist controls over others.


15 posted on 09/29/2021 2:51:02 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Jen Psaki - The Ginger Goebbels)
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To: Red Badger
A prison is highly analogous to a hospital or other health-care setting. Both are "conjugal" living arrangements.

No, they are not! Sheesh! Look words up before publishing!

16 posted on 09/29/2021 3:39:12 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. --Matthew 24:12)
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"after four months the vaccine's effective rate of protection was statistically zero."

Corona viruses are a large part and an ever mutating member of the, "common cold". We shut the world down for a bad strain.

19 posted on 09/29/2021 6:17:35 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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“So can an employee ever be forced to be vaccinated on the premise of protecting others? Maybe.”

uh no. there is no “maybe.” the right to informed consent for any health procedure is an individual right under our system. no blanket rule can be enforced on an individual without that individual’s consent or the gov’t must allow due process to inflict any coercion. the fact that biden is already using coercion with vaccine mandates is illegal in my view.

in fact **any** coercion negates informed consent and is immoral and illegal.


20 posted on 09/29/2021 8:17:43 PM PDT by dadfly
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