Posted on 09/27/2021 8:13:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Message #1:
When acknowledging an abusive relationship, do NOT exacerbate circumstances in a remote setting.
Do so in public in view of CCTV.
Maybe they ought to be teaching that in high school rather than deviant practices and abortion.../s
Maybe the schools should be teaching that initiating violence is wrong, no matter who does it.
The bottom line is we are raising children, not adults. We never require they take responsibility for their own actions, let alone others’. We “listen” to children lecturing us (Thunberg) who have no knowledge or experience and we wallow in a world where perceptions and feelings trump facts. It is a CHILD’S world.....but the kids are physically grown with no impulse control, plans or real abilities. What could possibly go wrong?
I agree . xlnt point. On a practical, societal level, When sex became a game with no repercussions( in the minds of those who practice it) and became standard practice...the downfall started.
The cops considered it. Then didn’t. The cops didn’t do a lot of things.
Some things to consider...
She picked the fight on purpose in the hope of being arrested.
He picked a fight in order to use as a defense later.
The fight was unscripted and a sign of a very unhealthy relationship.
Pity the cops didn’t follow through.
One FReeper wrote this to me and I agree with her - One common thing in these relationships is the need to isolate the women from friends and family. Parents need to be aware of these common tactics to separate abused women from family by the controlling abuser.
Got that right. I can’t believe it’s not common knowledge among girls.
That’s a problem. If I had a daughter she’d have damned well known.
If she had kept her legs together and sought a man who was looking for a wife and not a temporary ornament yes things would have normally turned out better.
I was left on my own from a very young age and I know the pattern quite intimately.
And if he had been a man and not a man child…yet she’d not have been interested in a grown responsible man any more than a grown responsible man would be interested in her.
Perpetual self indulgence with no responsibility or maturity is a killer.
I do not defend murder or justify it. But the truth is if you cuddle the viper you usually get bitten.
Not all women are attracted to alpha males. Laundries had no ambition, no job, not getting ahead in life, took criticism poorly, had no money, no career, not goal driven, had no leadership abilities followed her lead since the trip was her idea in her van. Was not an alpha male.
Your theory doesn’t explain why she was with such a dorky looking loser then. Was it because she wanted to break up with him for a chance to get a more exciting “man” with actual testosterone. Is that why he killed her? He looks one step away from a typical incel.
I think not living in a van may have been better for their state of mind.
Van living seems to be the latest craze. Not all temperaments are suited for it.
I agree with you. A girl or woman has to be careful. They are evil people out there who will kill you or injure you very badly. I was raised working with big animals. horses, mules, goats, cows. The first thing i was told was never to turn my back on one. the second was never trust one, they could hurt you. The third was never mistreat one. One messes with a snake, sooner or later, they get bit.
You see it a lot. Lazy, dipwit young men living with Mommy and Daddy. No direction. Total narcissists.
I made mistakes too.
However... I NEVER risked anything that would IRREVERSIBLY ruin my future.
Yeah, no. This is a popular incel and pick up artist canard that is tiresomely repeated in media. Was this true in the Middle Ages, the Renaissance, the Victorian era?
No, what's changed is moral training. Nobody has any guardrails anymore and chaos is the result.
Did mothers do that in the 50’s? I’m under the impression those type of conversations did not take place. It was just expected. Perhaps there were restrictions to keep a daughters life style in check. But, not sure there were talks about this sort of thing.
“So, what struck me—and I know I come across like a 1950s dad—is that so much of this could have been avoided if young women like Gabby did not fully give themselves emotionally and sexually to young men like Brian, with no commitment.”
So a “commitment” would have changed the dynamic somehow. No, it wouldn’t have.
From the limited info we have this was a volatile relationship, both sides being verbally and physically abusive.
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