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Natural immunity emerges as potential legal challenge to federal COVID-19 vaccination mandates
AOL ^ | 9/25/21 | Alexis Keenan

Posted on 09/26/2021 6:36:17 AM PDT by Libloather

The argument that natural immunity against COVID-19 is an alternative to vaccination is emerging as a potential legal challenge to federally mandated vaccination policies.

Vaccination is already required for certain workers and some college students. The federal government, despite steeper legal hurdles to imposing vaccination, has also invoked the U.S. Department of Labor to mandate inoculation for health care workers and is expected to roll out a larger policy effectively mandating vaccination for a majority of U.S. workers.

The stated goal behind mandatory vaccination policies is to protect against the spread of disease, meaning that the crux of any policy is immunity. The notion that a previous COVID-19 infection provides natural immunity that can be at least as good as vaccination in some people is something a judge would likely need to consider in a challenge to a mandatory policy, especially against a government actor.

“I think that a judge might reject a rule that's been issued by a body, like the U.S. Department of Labor or by a state, that has not been sufficiently thought through as it relates to the science,” Erik Eisenmann, a labor and employment attorney with Husch Blackwell, told Yahoo Finance.

**SNIP**

A June study that tracked 52,238 Cleveland Clinic employees found that within 1,359 previously infected and unvaccinated people, none contracted a subsequent COVID-19 infection over the five-month study. The findings led authors to conclude that prior infection makes a person “unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination.” Nevertheless, Cleveland Clinic stated afterwards that it continued to recommend vaccination for people previously infected, stressing that the research was conducted in late 2020 and early 2021 before the emergence of the Delta variant.

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KEYWORDS: covid; immunity; vaccinemandate
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1 posted on 09/26/2021 6:36:17 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

The argument that natural immunity against COVID-19 is an alternative to vaccination is emerging as a potential legal challenge to federally mandated vaccination policies.

The co-opted FedGov health agencies cannot admit this because upwards of 80% of the U.S. population likely has Covid antibodies according to an extensive survey of donated blood supply.

Do you have any idea what harm this would do to Pfizer’s bottom line if they lost 80% of their potential “clients” because there was no need for a vaccination against Covid?


2 posted on 09/26/2021 6:46:54 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: Libloather

what happened to the 4th and 10th Amendments
and Nuremberg? and my body, my decision?

and how dare the manufacturer purport their product
does not ‘work’ because others did not buy it?

this is the largest genocidal crime, forced by
governments and MSM, in the history which we know.

why?

because there has NEVER been accountability.

e.g.
CDC got its first powers by covering up Agent Orange.


3 posted on 09/26/2021 6:57:16 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Libloather
Science v. The Science™.

I wonder which is going to prevail. Of course, genuine science must prevail over science falsely so-called in objective reality.

However, in a corrupt and reprobate tyranny, it seems likely that The Science™ may prevail in both the its legal system and zeitgeist.

4 posted on 09/26/2021 6:57:52 AM PDT by Skepolitic ( )
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To: Libloather
The stated goal behind mandatory vaccination policies is to protect against the spread of disease

Even though you can catch and spread covid while vaxxed?

5 posted on 09/26/2021 7:18:04 AM PDT by Pollard (Some people like to argue just to argue.)
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To: Libloather

The evidence is in the autopsies the CDC fails to provide as a normal part of a vaccine rollout.

You won’t find what’s wrong if you don’t look for it.

Meanwhile, the Excess Deaths report is detailing the effects of the CoVID affliction. Micro clots have been found in major organs in the few autopsies done on CoVID patients.


6 posted on 09/26/2021 7:19:15 AM PDT by RideForever (One of the Control Group of the CoVID genetic experiment)
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To: Libloather
Nevertheless, Cleveland Clinic stated afterwards that it continued to recommend vaccination for people previously infected, stressing that the research was conducted in late 2020 and early 2021 before the emergence of the Delta variant.

before Delta -- that the jabs don't work very well for?

7 posted on 09/26/2021 7:21:35 AM PDT by Pollard (Some people like to argue just to argue.)
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To: Libloather

My sister finally got her blood test results showing the antibodies. She was sick last year and just knew it was Covid. Now she has confirmation and her boss accepted her natural immunity bin lieu of the vaccine.


8 posted on 09/26/2021 7:27:23 AM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: Flick Lives

“Testing” for COVID-19 Wuhan virus by taking a swab of the tissues within the nasal passages, and finding presence of the virus particle, is not testing at all, or very definitive in any case. The virus is endemic, it is already everywhere.

Actually testing the blood serum for COVID-19 virus antibodies is much more informative, and the population as a whole may have in fact already achieved “herd immunity”.


9 posted on 09/26/2021 7:28:13 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor)
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To: Libloather

COVID reinfection is so rare as to be essentially zero. The vaccine, not so much. Six months out the vaccine is done, worthless and the booster shot is only good for 12 days. And that is only after it suppresses the immune system for two weeks following the shot.

Tells you all you need to know about our COVID response: it is about power and profits, not health and safety.


10 posted on 09/26/2021 7:29:08 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Flick Lives; null and void
Do you have any idea what harm this would do to Pfizer’s bottom line if they lost 80% of their potential “clients” because there was no need for a vaccination against Covid?

How long until "lab results" would simply come back with the preferred results?

How long until COVID jab approvals are buried in the fine print of generic medical authorization paperwork?

Evil has no ethics. The web of bureaucracy and legalese is its Amazon Jungle.

Nothing that can't be solved by the desert sun.

11 posted on 09/26/2021 7:32:34 AM PDT by Ezekiel ("Come fly with US". Ingenuity-- because the Son of David begins with Mars.)
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To: Libloather

Let’s see... hundreds of years of actual science versus perverted, libtard “science” designed to control the masses in a libtard-appointed judge’s court. Gee, I wonder hoe that will go...


12 posted on 09/26/2021 7:36:28 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: Libloather
The stated goal behind mandatory vaccination policies is to protect against the spread of disease...

Yes, that is the stated goal. Just like the stated goal of "gun control" is public safety. {snort}

The real goals behind the vaccine push are compliance, setting a precedent, and solidifying "temporary" powers.

13 posted on 09/26/2021 7:57:10 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: Libloather
The stated goal behind mandatory vaccination policies is to protect against the spread of disease

By forcing everyone to get a “vaccine” which is experimental, which does not prevent infection with, or spreading of, a “disease” which is no more deadly than the flu (don’t bother trying to claim that it is - we now have 18 months of data that proves that it isn’t).

The mistake everyone makes is accepting the absolutely false premise that “COVID” is a threat that justifies any of the tyranny. That includes social distancing, masks, lockdowns, and especially, experimental “vaccines”.

14 posted on 09/26/2021 8:04:04 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Diogenesis
"No jab, no job" is pure coercion, when you are taking away a person's ability to feed their family and keep a roof over their heads.

We HANGED Nazis over this exact principle.


15 posted on 09/26/2021 8:14:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sicon

See 15.


16 posted on 09/26/2021 8:15:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Libloather
The stated goal behind mandatory vaccination policies is to protect against the spread of disease

Except that it's not working. According to CDC data and SCIENCE, we've reached herd immunity with more than 80% of the country having been vaccinated OR developed natural immunity to the CHINA VIRUS.

I have natural immunity having had the CHINA VIRUS in Feb. 2020 and a recent blood test as part of a routine exam showed my antibody levels through the roof more than 18 months later. I've also been exposed to the CHINA VIRUS at least twice in the past 60 days that I'm aware of and have not caught it. (One case as recently as 10 days ago.)

When we see so many breakthrough infections of vaccinated individuals who've not had the CHINA VIRUS previously, it certainly casts doubt on the efficacy of these 'vaccines.' I've seen a number of friends who were vaccinated develop the CHINA VIRUS since last April. They credit the 'vaccine' for having mild cases. Who's to day they wouldn't have had mild cases absent the vaccine? We'll never know, will we?

(Note: I received the J&J vaccine in April of 2021. I've already been told as an immunocompromised individual I'll need a 'booster' when it's available. I'm refusing the booster. I don't need it with natural immunity. That's been proven IMO based on my own personal experience. You can count me as one of the individuals who doesn't buy into big pharma's lies at this point. Natural immunity is best, period.)

17 posted on 09/26/2021 8:18:37 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Flick Lives
Do you have any idea what harm this would do to Pfizer’s bottom line if they lost 80% of their potential “clients” because there was no need for a vaccination against Covid?

IIRC, Pfizer is the most sued drug company in the world. The bastards deserve it, and more. They deserve to be driven out of business, IMO. We all know this is a big money/power grab between big pharma and FedGov.

The backlash against big pharma is well underway. The backlash against pResident Xiden and FedGov is coming. Oh is it coming.

18 posted on 09/26/2021 8:20:39 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Libloather

Remember that a lot of Covid testing was of low quality.

Don’t assume you gained much immunity unless you actually got sick from Covid.

However, vaccination was long done successfully using impaired viruses.

If you got over an illness caused by an unimpaired virus your natural immunity should be considered ample unless scientifically proved otherwise.


19 posted on 09/26/2021 8:21:12 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Flick Lives

The people running Pfizer aren’t stupid.

The contracts they have to produce the vaccine likely include language that has federal taxpayers reimbursing the company the cost of any unsold vaccine.

This isn’t about bottom lines. Or public health.

It is about control. And always has been.


20 posted on 09/26/2021 8:21:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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