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Rod Steiger(Komarovsky) and Zhivago were similar only in that neither of them took sides politically-think independents. Steiger was like Clark Gable in 'Gone With The Wind'-opportunist. The weak part was MD/Zhivago passing off as a wannabe poet-a reason to be targeted. The escape was not to the west but to the Far East where the trouble eventually followed.
1 posted on 09/22/2021 7:33:52 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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One of my favorite movies back in the day...


2 posted on 09/22/2021 7:36:39 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher )
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I consider it the greatest film ever made.


3 posted on 09/22/2021 7:38:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Dr. Zhivago is a love song to adultery.


4 posted on 09/22/2021 7:38:44 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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There’s more. Zhivago’s half-brother(Alec Guiness) did a very well as a believer who had his own second thoughts about where he stood when it came to his brother. The ‘Pasha’/Strelnikov character(Lara’s husband/boyfriend) got killed in a way that reminded me of the scene in the Killing Fielda’ where the commander of the labor/death camp was killed immediately after giving his son to the hero in the movie. These people eat their own. To think Russia waited 30 years before allowing the movie to be shown. We only have to wait until November, right?


6 posted on 09/22/2021 7:40:58 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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What Paternack understood and highlighted in his book was that the Bolsheviks would have never succeeded if they did not have the financial and political support of Russia’s urban upper class elites and academics. Who by the way were ultimately killed or exiled by those very same Bolsheviks once they came to power. History repeats in modern day America as it always does.


7 posted on 09/22/2021 7:41:14 AM PDT by allendale
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Why would November ‘22 be any different from November ‘20 which worked out so well for Democrats?


8 posted on 09/22/2021 7:41:33 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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So was “Patton”


9 posted on 09/22/2021 7:41:37 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Utah: Where the world comes to see America)
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I remember him, Dr Zhivago, returning to his family home, only to find that ‘The People’ had taken possession. A very convincing argument that freedom DOES COME from the right to hold property!


11 posted on 09/22/2021 7:42:24 AM PDT by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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Naive leftists today don’t realize that they would be exchanging their dreaded capitalist robber barons for tyrannical state aristocrats. And you have the bureaucrat class that have far more power in what is inevitably increasing totalitarian state (always necessary to tighten the grips on power) and even the bureaucrats and administrators, for all their power over the people, always have to watch their back because the power class are paranoid and ruthless and fear everyone around and below them.

But hay, that’s another world. Not history. Just fiction. You know ‘we’ will get our utopia. Right?


12 posted on 09/22/2021 7:43:11 AM PDT by z3n (“If the populace knew with what idiocy they were ruled, they would revolt.” -Charlemagne)
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Can you play the balalaika?


13 posted on 09/22/2021 7:43:13 AM PDT by Slicksadick (We accept the love we think we deserve.)
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Loved that movie, and what a great soundtrack.


16 posted on 09/22/2021 7:45:15 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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Our daughter was adopted from Russia at 2 yrs. old. You would never know - as she is a gorgeous all American girl now.

When she was little she imagined that Russia(Birobidzhan to be exact), was castles and princesses. When she got old enough, we watched this movie together and explained that this was just a story, but these events did occur.

She’s going to be 21 soon and has never had any interest in looking at the pictures of Birobidzhan that her Mom was able to capture while she was there.


19 posted on 09/22/2021 7:47:35 AM PDT by CTyank
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The author of the original book was surprised when the commies banned it. He, like most useful idiots, thought communism was great. The powers that be didn’t like the stuff in there about the privation that immediately followed the revolution.


21 posted on 09/22/2021 7:53:34 AM PDT by fruser1
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All those illegals Biden is importing are going to need places to live.

comrade kaprugina delivers a scolding - Dr. Zhivago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq__Z-Z_Ofs


24 posted on 09/22/2021 7:59:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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There are ethical opportunists, but Komarovsky was amoral, what we now might term a high-functioning psychopath. Russia abounds in the species.

The message I got from Dr. Zhivago was that communism itself is virulent and opportunistic (the Bolsheviks took over during WWI and during the reign of an uncommonly impotent absolute ruler); and that it breaks down morality, virtually digests it. Strelnikov said the personal life is dead, but in fact the society had been destroyed and the individual only cut adrift from the bonds of morality that are the musculature of a society. The lone, vulnerable individual, cog in the machine, is all that remains, and if he doesn’t, so what? One’s like another. In the end, the “citizen” is a person without a family history or even an interest in it; she keeps her head down, to survive physically, and that’s the entirety of her moral life.


25 posted on 09/22/2021 8:06:32 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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Paternal deservedly won a Nobel Prize for Literature for Zhivago as it captures the human condition on a biblical scale and boils it down to a novel.

But the 1965 Hollywood movie, although very well done, was not always adhering to Pasternak's vision.

Granada made a 2002 series film of Zhivago that greatly surpasses the Hollywood production which many thought impossible but was achieved nevertheless.

Zhivago-Image

The Hollywood version was beautiful, beautiful music, great acting etc. but the Grenada version authentically captures the real epic that won the Nobel Prize.

26 posted on 09/22/2021 8:07:00 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Liked Gone with the Wind........Zhivago was awful for my taste. Script roles were painfully bad.


34 posted on 09/22/2021 8:37:30 AM PDT by caww ( )
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The Germans supported Marxism in Russia as they thought (correctly) that it would take Russia out of WWI.


35 posted on 09/22/2021 8:40:52 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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Lara is actually the center of the story.

Three men love Lara: Komorovsky, Sasha and Zhivago.

Each, very different.


37 posted on 09/22/2021 8:45:06 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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And did you see that the Dems and Rinos are today’s Bolshevics?


42 posted on 09/22/2021 11:16:05 AM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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