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More Vaccines, More Covid: Why are Case Rates Exploding in Areas with High Levels of Vaccination? What is the Best Hypothesis That Explains This Observation?
Becker News ^ | 09/19/2021 | Kyle Becker

Posted on 09/19/2021 8:41:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As the Covid pandemic continues to defy predictions about when it will finally be ‘over,’ there is a curious phenomenon taking place across the United States and around the globe: Covid-19 case rates increasing alongside vaccination rates.

The textbook examples of this disturbing trend are the nations of Israel, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Israel is now experiencing its fourth wave, which is being accompanied by another round of ‘booster shots.’ Israel has 61.5% of all adults “fully vaccinated” (although the use of ‘booster shots’ throws the term into question.)

The United Kingdom is experiencing another wave despite 66.5% being “fully vaccinated.”

The United States is seeing a wave that is now even larger than the first big wave in terms of cases. The U.S. has a 55% ‘fully vaccinated’ rate, which encompasses all adults, but skews older.

U.S. states vary greatly in terms of vaccination rates. Two prime examples of high case rate and high vaccination rate states are California and Washington. California has strict Covid rules, such as mask mandates and even mandatory vaccination in L.A. County.

Despite vaccination rates of 68% in the 12 and up demographic and 80% in the critical 65 and up demographic, California has experienced yet another wave in August. This has been accompanied by an increasing reported death rate.

Washington state is similar in that it has 73% ‘fully vaccinated’ in the 12 and up demographic, as well 89% in the 65 and up. Like California, these rates will be much higher within weeks. And like California, it is reporting soaring case and mortality rates.

In the midst of these remarkable trends is a brewing controversy: How much immunity is enough? As a baseline, there are two forms of immunity: Vaccinated and natural immunity. It was recently reported that the CDC estimated that 83% of the U.S. population had some form of Covid immunity, based on antibodies detected in blood samples. The CDC study showed that the estimation of those who had contracted Covid and recovered without knowing they had the illness was 120 million people – far higher than then 42 million currently being reported. That was in May. Once one factors in the ongoing Delta wave, that number could be upwards of 150 million people.

Amid this massive spread of natural immunity and vaccinated immunity, the goalposts on what constitutes “herd immunity” has shifted dramatically. “Since the start of the pandemic, the figure that many epidemiologists have offered has been 60 to 70 percent,” the NY Times originally reported in December. “That range is still cited by the World Health Organization and is often repeated during discussions of the future course of the disease.”

“In the pandemic’s early days, Dr. Fauci tended to cite the same 60 to 70 percent estimate that most experts did,” the Times went on. “About a month ago, he began saying ’70, 75 percent’ in television interviews. And last week, in an interview with CNBC News, he said ’75, 80, 85 percent’ and ’75 to 80-plus percent’.”

It is important to note that Dr. Fauci is acting as if natural immunity doesn’t even exist, when we know from the CDC’s studies that it could be as high as 40% in the United States. Regardless, the NIAID Director wants a vaccination target above 80 percent, while knowing that 98% of Covid deaths are among those age 40 and above. What is going on here?

One blogger, under the pseudonym el gato malo, has shown the spotlight on one possible explanation, while admitting that the author suspects “a fair few folks are not going to like hearing it.” In the interest of readability, I will select relevant passages and capitalize them appropriately (the author has chosen a peculiar style than shuns capitalization). The following is a “hypothesis” that represents what the author argues is the “best fit” of the current data in a number of cases under observation.

The current surge in Covid deaths is caused by the vaccinated.

The Covid vaccines are extremely leaky and may well accelerate contracting and carrying Covid.

They allow for very high viral loads to go unnoticed and generate a new and severe asymptomatic spread vector to where none existed before.

The high viral loads lead to greater contagion. they may lead to greater severity (but this data is iffy and contested).

Vaccine campaigns cause superspread events because vaccination leads to a 2 week window of 40-100% more covid risk that then gets counted as “unvaccinated” because the definitions are bad.

This combination makes those vaccinated with one dose or more into superspread bombs.

One might recall the case of the Texas Democrats or the Barack Obama’s birthday party at Martha’s Vineyard, where ‘fully vaccinated’ people gathered and nonetheless spurred ostensible ‘superspreader events.’ In August, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky changed her story and admitted that the vaccinated can indeed spread the Delta variant.

El gato malo presents evidence about why this explanation appears to fit the data in areas where there are case rates exploding despite presumably high levels of vaccinated and natural immunity.

You get a surge of spread… and then you get the later breakthrough cases (because the vaccines do not stop infection and just mitigate severity).

These BT [breakthrough] cases have massively high VL [viral loads] in often asymptomatic superspreaders that pass on high loading doses to the unvaccinated and greatly worsen the overall pandemic.

This further inflates apparent VE [vaccine efficacy] by subjecting the unvaccinated to a more profligate and severe disease vector than they would have been had no vaccination campaign ever been undertaken.

It moves the whole system to a a different valence.

Perversely, if the vaccinated comprise a spread vector that accelerates deaths in the unvaccinated, that would make it look like vaccines work.

Ouch. (Told you you weren’t going to like it).

The researcher then adds the appropriate disclaimer to the argument.

I want to stress, this is a hypothesis and a work in progress. It’s just the best fit to the facts I can find right now and I REALLY hope it’s wrong because if it’s right, this vaccination campaign is probably the worst health blunder in human history and the epidemiology and politics of that will get stunningly, surreally bad.

But if this hypothesis proves out, then calling this an ‘epidemic of the unvaccinated’ is 180 degrees wrong.

Indeed, it would be generous to call it “the worst health blunder in human history.” It would give rise to a diabolical scenario where two opposing camps – the vaccinated and the unvaccinated – would be clashing incessantly over who is killing whom.

The only plausible solution: More vaccines, forever.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: breakthrough; breakthroughcovid; chemtrails; covid; covidvaccines; deltavariant; featurenotfault; infection; mareks; vaccination
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To: nagant

You vaxx pushers love to anthropomorphize the virus, imbuing it with magical properties - the only cure is of course, your witches’ brew.

Pray tell, how much does big pharma and the CDC pay per post?


61 posted on 09/19/2021 11:17:05 PM PDT by RonaldusMagnus-DonaldusMagnus
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To: silverleaf

Marek’s disease has been on my mind for some time now...

Not that it is a close match for what has happened but it raises the specter of disaster..we are playing with dangerous technology here...we might make a serious mistake whichever path we choose...

I have my worries, I hope I am unnecessarily concerned...I hope the vax is a great idea and that it was wise to rush it out without proper testing.. I just don’t know. All the lies on both sides is not helping.

It would be a grave mistake to become entrenched in your beliefs regarding the vax or no vax question, we must all be ready to adjust our thinking as new data comes to light...rigidity of position could lead to calamity..

Keep an open mind, don’t believe what you read or hear from any source without questioning...

We will find out...I suggest that prayer is called for...


62 posted on 09/19/2021 11:20:14 PM PDT by Bobalu (The plan must be to distract from Afghanistan by doing something even more stupid )
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To: SeekAndFind

The cover comes off.

Who hides in the darkness.
Who is the father of lies.
Who hates the Image of Yaweah.


63 posted on 09/19/2021 11:20:30 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: moovova

I heard Berenson on Bannon yesterday

He said ....some vax folks can be super viral load carriers

A small percentage

Most anti vax folks here listen to berenson I think...


64 posted on 09/19/2021 11:24:40 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: metmom; SeekAndFind

metmom wrote:

“What’s being labeled as COVID is actually reactions to the vax, or ADE reactions to other normally mild and harmless illnesses.”

Would the tests that are run for flu a, flu b, strep, SARS 1, and SARS 2 covid pick up anything ?


65 posted on 09/19/2021 11:25:03 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: WildHighlander57

If they were specific and accurate enough they might. Depends on what the person has. The PCR test doesn’t distinguish between the flu and Covid which is why it’s no longer going to be used in a few months.

IMO, by the end of the year, when they quit using the PCR test, the Covid “pandemic” will be declared over. And conveniently, they will report that case rates have dropped, which is what WILL happen when they stop testing for it.

Conveniently…..

The problem is, these days, it appears that ANY illness someone comes down with is by default “Covid” so I don’t know what kind of luck anyone would have getting checked for other viruses.


66 posted on 09/19/2021 11:38:51 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: SeekAndFind

TL/DR (scanned only)

Just my half baked answer to the question:

Too many people do not understand that the COVID “vaccination” they received provides temporary limited “protection from” not permanent “immunity to” the disease. This is being combined with reckless abandonment of other behaviors that may help minimize possibility of exposure to infected persons (cue images of unmasked people at packed venues (football games/concerts/the Emmys/etc.)).


67 posted on 09/19/2021 11:51:34 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow. )
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To: Prince of Space

“So there’s nobody working in those labs that has a conscience? No whistleblowers to be found in research labs? That’s extremely sad and concerning to me.”

I hear the CCP has special cremation incinerators for whistleblowers.


68 posted on 09/19/2021 11:57:54 PM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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To: SeekAndFind

My only observation is that in the same period Israel has gone from “95%” vacinated to “75%” and now “61.5%”.
In other words, you can’t trust a single thing anyone says.


69 posted on 09/20/2021 12:48:44 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: SeekAndFind

Spell check alert.

Every instance of ‘Despite’ in this article needs to be changed to ‘Because of’.


70 posted on 09/20/2021 1:04:13 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Kevmo

Seems to me the best explanation is that natural immunity is far better, and maybe safer, than with the vaccine, although the media keeps the truth from us.

For example, in my hospital we have dozens and dozens of patients with Covid, and some are dying. The vaccinated are not dying.

So, IMO maybe the better approach is to get vaccinated, and don’t worry about getting infected, because you’ll have better immunity, or take the risk and don’t get vaccinated, and figure that you’ll recover if infected.

OTOH, there are some healthy people unvaccinated, who are dying.

When you weigh the cards, it seems like the prudent thing to do, if you are active outside on a daily basis, and around a lot of people is to get the vaccine.


71 posted on 09/20/2021 2:00:44 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: drSteve78

“The more immunized, the sicker your response can be.”

Which is the oppose of what the advantage of getting the vaccine is supposed to be.


72 posted on 09/20/2021 4:16:46 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: SeekAndFind

How serious are the covid illnesses in the current surge?


73 posted on 09/20/2021 4:40:00 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Owen

We had at least as big a hand in its creation as China. Worse, we created and have pushed the “vaccines”.


74 posted on 09/20/2021 4:47:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Polynikes

They called a few days BEFORE she got sick.


75 posted on 09/20/2021 4:55:00 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: wgmalabama

I worry about my wife as she vaxxed because of a compromised immune system. That’s no pressure from her for me to do the same. Can’t agree with you more when you said “I think the USA is screwed and many other countries.” We were the last country to “run” to for safety.


76 posted on 09/20/2021 5:04:08 AM PDT by moovova (Joe Biden...Making the Taliban great again!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because it doesn’t prevent getting sick, nor does it prevent you from transmitting it to others, nor does it lessen the symptoms.

It was designed to enslave, injure, sterilize, and kill as many people as possible.


77 posted on 09/20/2021 5:06:06 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Sequoyah101

$500? I bought one tube on Amazon for around $35.


78 posted on 09/20/2021 5:07:07 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: CharlesOConnell

“Because it’s a binary biological warfare weapon...”

I hope you are wrong...but how can one explain the “push” for the entire world to be vaxxed?


79 posted on 09/20/2021 5:08:13 AM PDT by moovova (Joe Biden...Making the Taliban great again!)
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To: LilFarmer

I was taking quercetin until my neurologist and I saw it lowered the level of an anti-seizure medication in my blood, so I stopped taking it. But if I ever start to feel sick, I’m sure as hell going to start taking it again.


80 posted on 09/20/2021 5:13:58 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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