My comments on The Daily Expose article "Chris Whitty ordered the NHS to give alleged Covid-19 patients lethal doses of Hydroxychloroquine....

dailyexpose.co.uk ^ | SEPTEMBER 4, 2021 | vanity, The Daily Expose

[ransomnote]

ransomnote: the article does link to information which seems to prove that a trial protocol specified that participants be given 2400mg of a drug in a 24 hour period, which appears to be extremely high and potentially lethal.

I've heard all along that every time a government agency (ours or UK or other nation) tests HCQ/AZ or Ivermectin and declares it a failure, the dosages are wrong (too high, too low), are timed wrong (too little, too late, next doses delayed) or are missing important steps (Azithromycin WITH HCQ). The few accusations I checked out of this kind seemed to be correct. But I have not checked all the studies so my experience is limited.

This author is outraged and appears to state the SUSPECTED reason why the dose to be administered in 24 hours is so high as if motive is known. I understand the reasoning because I've seen the other assertions and a few studies etc., but the author has no proof WHY the dosages are in fact so high.

Perhaps a better question is to ask in all these cases why the governments testing and purporting to 'prove' HCQ and Ivermectin supposedly don't work, keep diverging from recommended dosages and protocols provided by those who say these drugs work (e.g., why not test Dr. Zelenko's protocol?).

So the usefulness of the article, for thse interested, might be in acquiring experience looking at possible reasons why some studies say Ivermectin works to an outstanding degree:

Dr Robert Malone @RWMaloneMD | Peru-> last half of 2020. Mortality dropped 14 fold over 3 months with Ivermectin, rose 13 fold when Ivermectin removed
twitter.com ^ | 9/5/2021 | Robert W Malone MD @RWMaloneMD

And then comparing those successful protocols with the failed protocols used in government studies, and questioning decision makers as to why, as in this case, a dosage may be so alarmingly high or why the protocol may diverge from those used successfully. At the very least, the health and safety of the trial participants could benefit from such explorations prior to testing.

The public has been riding a rollercoaster -with reports alternating between near miraculous benefits (Of Ivermectin, HCQ) followed by reports of danger and disaster). Science allows for practical comparisons and decision making - BRING IT ON!

Here's an excerpt from the linked Daily Expose article, given the highly emotional title, "Chris Whitty ordered the NHS to give alleged Covid-19 patients lethal doses of Hydroxychloroquine to kill them and sabotage trials – now the fate of the nations children rests in his hands", in The Daily Expose.

SNIP

"Hydroxychloroquine was one of the drugs being trialled. In the RECOVERY Trial and the REMAP-CAP Trial they used an extremely high and potentially lethal dose: 800 mg at 0 and 6 hours followed by 400 mg at 12 hours and then every 12 hours for up to nine additional days. A patient was therefore given 2,400 mg in the first 24 hours of treatment.

Read trial document here.

According to David Jayne, professor of clinical autoimmunity at Cambridge University:

“Hydroxychloroquine overdose is associated with cardiovascular, neurological, and other toxicities, occurring with doses over 1500 mg, and higher doses are associated with fatality.”

In an article for the BMJ found here co-head of the Recovery Trial Martin Landray explained:

“The dose comes from modelling by Nick White, professor of tropical medicine at the University of Oxford, and his team, who have extensive experience with this drug.”

Sir Nicholas White was involved in the WHO’s “Informal consultation on the potential role of chloroquine in the clinical management of COVID 19 infection” on March 13th. Also present were 5 “Experts” affiliated with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The WHO’s SOLIDARITY Trial used the same dose for hydroxychloroquine as the RECOVERY & REMAP-CAP Trials.

Chinese scientists had already recommended a much lower and safer dose on March 9th 2020: 

“a loading dose of 400 mg twice daily of hydroxychloroquine sulfate given orally, followed by a maintenance dose of 200 mg given twice daily for 4 days is recommended for SARS-CoV-2 infection” "

SNIP

MORE AT LINK

ransomnote: the article does link to information which seems to prove that a trial protocol specified that participants be given 2400mg of a drug in a 24 hour period, which appears to be extremely high and potentially lethal.

I've heard all along that every time a government agency (ours or UK or other nation) tests HCQ/AZ or Ivermectin and declares it a failure, the dosages are wrong (too high, too low), are timed wrong (too little, too late, next doses delayed) or are missing important steps (Azithromycin WITH HCQ). The few accusations I checked out of this kind seemed to be correct. But I have not checked all the studies so my experience is limited.

This author is outraged and appears to state the SUSPECTED reason why the dose to be administered in 24 hours is so high as if motive is known. I understand the reasoning because I've seen the other assertions and a few studies etc., but the author has no proof WHY the dosages are in fact so high.

Perhaps a better question is to ask in all these cases why the governments testing and purporting to 'prove' HCQ and Ivermectin supposedly don't work, keep diverging from recommended dosages and protocols provided by those who say these drugs work (e.g., why not test Dr. Zelenko's protocol?).

So the usefulness of the article, for thse interested, might be in acquiring experience looking at possible reasons why some studies say Ivermectin works to an outstanding degree:

Dr Robert Malone @RWMaloneMD | Peru-> last half of 2020. Mortality dropped 14 fold over 3 months with Ivermectin, rose 13 fold when Ivermectin removed
twitter.com ^ | 9/5/2021 | Robert W Malone MD @RWMaloneMD

And then comparing those successful protocols with the failed protocols used in government studies, and questioning decision makers as to why, as in this case, a dosage may be so alarmingly high or why the protocol may diverge from those used successfully. At the very least, the health and safety of the trial participants could benefit from such explorations prior to testing.

The public has been riding a rollercoaster -with reports alternating between near miraculous benefits (Of Ivermectin, HCQ) followed by reports of danger and disaster). Science allows for practical comparisons and decision making - BRING IT ON!

Here's an excerpt from the linked Daily Expose article, given the highly emotional title, "Chris Whitty ordered the NHS to give alleged Covid-19 patients lethal doses of Hydroxychloroquine to kill them and sabotage trials – now the fate of the nations children rests in his hands", in The Daily Expose.

SNIP

"Hydroxychloroquine was one of the drugs being trialled. In the RECOVERY Trial and the REMAP-CAP Trial they used an extremely high and potentially lethal dose: 800 mg at 0 and 6 hours followed by 400 mg at 12 hours and then every 12 hours for up to nine additional days. A patient was therefore given 2,400 mg in the first 24 hours of treatment.

Read trial document here.

According to David Jayne, professor of clinical autoimmunity at Cambridge University:

“Hydroxychloroquine overdose is associated with cardiovascular, neurological, and other toxicities, occurring with doses over 1500 mg, and higher doses are associated with fatality.”

In an article for the BMJ found here co-head of the Recovery Trial Martin Landray explained:

“The dose comes from modelling by Nick White, professor of tropical medicine at the University of Oxford, and his team, who have extensive experience with this drug.”

Sir Nicholas White was involved in the WHO’s “Informal consultation on the potential role of chloroquine in the clinical management of COVID 19 infection” on March 13th. Also present were 5 “Experts” affiliated with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The WHO’s SOLIDARITY Trial used the same dose for hydroxychloroquine as the RECOVERY & REMAP-CAP Trials.

Chinese scientists had already recommended a much lower and safer dose on March 9th 2020: 

“a loading dose of 400 mg twice daily of hydroxychloroquine sulfate given orally, followed by a maintenance dose of 200 mg given twice daily for 4 days is recommended for SARS-CoV-2 infection” "

SNIP

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[Pollard]

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[Alas Babylon!]

THAT would be first degree murder.

[Tailback]

Bkmk

[Bobalu]

[Jane Long]

LOL....and, that FReeper was an *expert* alright, correct?

😂

[LilFarmer]

Why, yes! Yes she was!

[gitmo]

When are they going to be arrested?

[ghost.of.patton]

"They have no heaven to look forward to so they want to create one here on earth, by force if need be."

Even here on FR, there are too many who keep bleating on about "Big Pharma", "its all about the Benjamins", Billions in profits. The reality is worse than just greed, and you hit the nail on the head. Socialism, Communism, Technocracy, Scientism, contempt for God, the arrogance of Man. There isn't enough money in the world to make everyone a billionaire.

[Widget Jr]

It is getting harder to avoid the conclusion that in the U.S. and Europe many studies on early treatment medications are rigged to fail by using them on hospitalized patients.

Fortunately for the human race, India, Africa and other developing are ahead of the West now on early treatments. If the west doesn't want to lead, then it will follow.

[Flick Lives]

Why government agencies would never deliberately experiment with their own citizens in a bizarre nazi-like manner; well, except for that Tuskeegee 40 year study of syphilis, and the times they deliberately set off above ground nuclear tests when the winds would carry the fallout into Las Vegas, and the times they injected LSD into subjects, or when they had our own soldiers stand outside the blast radius of an atomic bomb to test the effects of radiation.

[silverleaf]

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/05/23/more-1300-veterans-given-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19.html#:~:text=A%20retrospective%20review%20of%20the%20use%20of%20hydroxychloroquine,in%20the%20study%20who%20received%20standard%20care%20died.

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/covid-19-va-study-points-to-increased-mortality-with-hydroxychloroquine

When you read the actual study, these poor severely sick vets ( mostly black, btw) were given HUGE doses of HCQ, far far in excess of the Zelenko protocol

So some bureaucrats could say “ see, didn’t work, even killed a few”

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[grey_whiskers]

Some sources with normal amounts for ya...

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• CDC: Teens Injected with COVID Shots have 7.5 X More Deaths, 15 X More Disabilities, 44 X More Hospitalizations than All FDA Approved Vaccines in 2021

  9/5/2021, 2:50:38 PM · by SoConPubbie · 13 replies

  Health Impact News ^ | September 3, 2021 | Brian Shilhavy

[bagster]

There is much evil that we would have never believed so many people are capable of doing 5-6 years ago. Now it seems that there are hundreds of thousands of people capable of evil without conscious. They are Godless people who believe the ends justify the means, with the ends being some sort of global utopia. They have no heaven to look forward to so they want to create one here on earth, by force if need be. How utterly insane.

Those you trust the most.

Q

[Jane Long]

Thx for the ping!

Great chart.

FR VPs maddened most 😹

[greeneyes]

Additional thoughts:

Zinc is powerful in attacking the virus. However, when the virus is within the cells, zinc can not get to it. Therefore an ionophore is needed to allow zinc access.

That Ionophore is HCQ. Another is Quercetin. However, Quercetin can NOT hold a candle to HCQ.

Dr. Zelenko explained it sort of this way. HCQ is the gun and zinc is the bullet. You don’t use an unloaded gun and blame the failure on the gun. And many of the studies I have seen omitted the zinc.

[Freee-dame]

Before Easter 2020, President Trump mentioned the therapeutic use of hydroxychloroquine plus zinc plus azithromycin, New York was given some HCQ to use in a test. It is my opinion that Cuomo sabotaged that test by giving the hydroxychloroquine only to severely ill hospitalized Covid patients when it was too late to help. No one was saying that hydroxychloroquine worked after the first few days of Covid symptoms. Cuomo is really evil.