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Deaths after Pfizer jabs worry the public
Korea JoongAng Daily ^ | May 24, 2021

Posted on 09/04/2021 8:16:16 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Deaths following Pfizer jabs are exceeding those after AstraZeneca shots, although experts say that many of the casualties were over the age of 74, with weaker immune systems and pre-existing medical conditions.
 
Since the vaccination program began on Feb. 26, a total of 153 cases of death after inoculation had been reported as of Monday, according to the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency (KDCA). Pfizer accounted for 93 cases and AstraZeneca 60.
 
Ironically, some people in Korea have been avoiding the AstraZeneca vaccine and trying to get the Pfizer one instead. In April, blood clots were reported among people receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine.
 
“I made a reservation for the AstraZeneca vaccine, but I’m not going to show up on the day because I’m worried about the side effects,” said Ms. Oh, 71, who lives in Anyang, Gyeonggi. “Many of my friends also told me that they are going to put off the AstraZeneca vaccination to get Pfizer later.”
 
Enthusiasm for the shots isn't high. As of Monday, the booking rate for Covid-19 vaccinations — the percentage of people in an age group who have made reservations — was only 55.9 percent among people aged 60 to 74, who are eligible for the AstraZeneca vaccine. The booking rate for people between the ages of 60 to 64 was only 47.4 percent.
 
Health Minister Kwon Deok-cheol said in a recent briefing that “the reservation rate is slowing,” and urged the elderly to participate in the vaccination campaign.
 
Deaths have been reported among elderly without underlying diseases after they received Pfizer shots.
 
Last Thursday, an 81-year-old man in Sokcho, Gangwon Province, died six days after getting his second Pfizer shot, and an epidemiological investigation is underway to find any causality. The man did not have any underlying diseases, and did not show any adverse reaction after the inoculation.
 
In Gwangju, an 81-year-old woman died an hour and 18 minutes after receiving the second Pfizer shot on May 12.
 
Two minutes after her second shot, she lost consciousness and showed signs of anaphylaxis, or severe allergic reaction. In a preliminary examination, she was said to have no underlying disease.
 
Health authorities, however, explained that none of the deaths reported so far are related to the vaccinations.
 
“On the elderly without underlying diseases who died after inoculation, we could find the causes of death through an autopsy, such as cardiac infarction, heart rupture or pulmonary embolism,” an official from the KDCA told the Korea JoongAng Daily.
 
“We don’t think there is a meaningful difference [between AstraZeneca and Pfizer in terms of deaths] seeing the situations abroad,” the official added.
 
The death rate per 100,000 vaccinated people was similar between Pfizer (2.71 per 100,000 people) and AstraZeneca (2.62 per 100,000 people), and those results were similar to other countries, according to the KDCA.
 
For example, in the U.K. where a larger number of inoculations have being done, there were 3.19 deaths per 100,000 people for Pfizer, and 3.29 for AstraZeneca.
 
“As the Pfizer vaccine is being administered to people over 74 years old, the number of deaths tends to be higher than AstraZeneca and makes it more likely that coincidental deaths will occur,” said Kim Woo-joo, a professor of infectious diseases at Korea University Guro Hospital.
 
“When you see the reports from the KDCA, it says those received the vaccines died of symptoms such as pneumonia or stroke, which do not suddenly occur when vaccinated,” said Chon Eun-mi, a professor of respiratory medicine at Ewha Womans University Mokdong Hospital.
 
“Many of the very elderly people cannot feel when they have symptoms because their body functions poorly,” Chon said. “The vaccine triggers underlying symptoms that they weren’t aware of, causing death.”
 
Chon advised people over 74 to get a check-up before being vaccinated.
 
A survey conducted by the Asan Medical Center on adverse reactions to vaccines in healthcare workers aged between 20 to 69 showed that vaccine-associated adverse reactions were more commonly reported after AstraZeneca shots (93.3 percent) than Pfizer (80.1 percent).
 
Recently, cases of heart inflammation among young people after receiving the Pfizer vaccine have been reported overseas — in the U.S. and Israel — though no firm conclusions have been reached.
 
A total of 3,792,906 people, or 7.4 percent of Korea’s population, had received one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine as of Monday.

 
AstraZeneca's vaccine has been given to 2,061,634 people, while 1,731,272 received Pfizer's.
 
The KDCA announced on Monday that the first batch of 55,000 doses of the Moderna vaccine will arrive on May 31. This is part of a 40 million-dose contract signed with Moderna.
 
Moderna announced last December 31 that it would ship its first batch in May, saying that it had signed a supply contract with Korea for 20 million people.  
 
"It will take time to use because it needs final permission from the Ministry of Food and Drug Safety,” said Sohn Young-rae, a senior health official of the Central Disaster and Safety Countermeasure Headquarters, during an online briefing on Monday.
 
The Ministry of Food and Drug Safety approved the use of the vaccine but only after submitting a final report on clinical trials.
 
Moderna’s vaccine, based on messenger RNA, was the fourth Covid-19 vaccine to be approved after AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Janssen. Korea approved the Moderna vaccine on May 21 on the condition that the company submit the final outcome of its clinical studies.
 

 
On Monday, Korea reported 538 new Covid-19 cases, including 513 local infections, raising the total caseload to 136,467, the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency (KDCA) said. There were three additional virus deaths, raising the total to 1,934.
 
BY SEO JI-EUN   [seo.jieun1@joongang.co.kr]
 
 


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To: SoConPubbie

Do NOT get the Pfizer.

Mother is out of the hospital and in rehab from a months ago jab of Pfizer.


21 posted on 09/04/2021 8:44:44 AM PDT by bgill (.Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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To: Chode
approaching legal age will strike back against the vaxordie crowd and punish them at the ballotbox

If someone they care about dies from these vaxxes we could be talking generational vendetta...not ballotbox....
22 posted on 09/04/2021 8:44:46 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Doctors suggest we should have waited between doses of Pfizer, Moderna vaccines
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3991104/posts

The 3wk period of time before getting 2nd dose (4wks for Moderna), was intended as a MINIMUM. Somehow it became the norm & recommended. I think they’ll eventually find out that some people couldn’t handle it and either got sick or died. Waiting 6 wks or possibly more makes more sense.


23 posted on 09/04/2021 8:45:25 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: bgill

Was it her 1st shot or 2nd?


24 posted on 09/04/2021 8:48:05 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: cgbg

works for me...


25 posted on 09/04/2021 8:48:57 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: SoConPubbie
Let’s look at how the 3rd Jab of Pfizer Vaccine is working in Israel. Since Booster shots began in Israel on July 30, the vaccines are REALLY WORKING WELL if Israel’s goal is to exterminate their elderly population…

Italian Trulli
26 posted on 09/04/2021 8:50:41 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: nuconvert
Doctors suggest we should have waited between doses of Pfizer, Moderna vaccines

Oh…it’s the “timing” of the kill shot. Waiting 6 weeks will make the elderly less dead?
27 posted on 09/04/2021 8:53:10 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Possibly. They’ve already observed that the elderly are assimilating the shots differently. The problem is, they aren’t recommending anything different. Same for the general population. It seems they should be recommending a longer wait time between shots for everyone, but Pfizer just wants to get as much used as possible in order to sell more.


28 posted on 09/04/2021 8:58:29 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: SoConPubbie
although experts say that many of the casualties were over the age of 74, with weaker immune systems and pre-existing medical conditions.

Eldercide is the only logical conclusion of why our “Experts” would give a dangerous medical experiment to someone with a weak immune system.
29 posted on 09/04/2021 8:58:33 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: cgbg

The diseases have changed, or haven’t you noticed?


30 posted on 09/04/2021 9:02:36 AM PDT by firebrand ( )
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To: nuconvert
Based on Dr David Bauer’s explanation, it does not appear timing makes a significant difference in regenerating destroyed neutralizing antibodies in the elderly. NOT GETTING the kill shots is the greatest predictor of survival…

https://youtu.be/uGIKriLirmg
31 posted on 09/04/2021 9:02:53 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: cgbg

Especially old people with existing comorbidities.

It is like asking a person with one foot in the grave and other foot on a banana peel to jump 4 feet high.

The vaccine induces stress by forcing the body to create ant-bodies. I am age 81 and healthy as a race horse. But even I felt very tired the day after 2nd jab. So I can imagine any old person who is obese, has bad heart and borderline diabetic would die soon after vaccination.


32 posted on 09/04/2021 9:04:03 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump was the best president in my life time of 81 years and counting..)
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To: Chode

Maybe some will decide to enter the public-health field, like when kids who break an arm grow up to be doctors. Or statisticians.


33 posted on 09/04/2021 9:05:16 AM PDT by firebrand ( )
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To: SoConPubbie
Deaths following Pfizer jabs are exceeding those after AstraZeneca shots, although experts say that many of the casualties were over the age of 74, with weaker immune systems and pre-existing medical conditions.

Well, that's a relief!

What are these old folks, with compromised immune systems and pre-existing medical conditions, complaining about, anyway?! We all have to die sometime, after all! Don't they realize that their deaths "serve the Greater Good?"

/mordant sarcasm

Regards,

34 posted on 09/04/2021 9:07:54 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: firebrand

yup, they will be everywhere like salt, only wish i could be here to see it...

it will be glorious


35 posted on 09/04/2021 9:09:01 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: cgbg

Gotta keep reducing those who collect money from our leaders don’t ya know?

Social Security

Medicare

ETC...


36 posted on 09/04/2021 9:12:36 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught (Sounds like a conspiracy theory? Wait 6 months and it will be truth.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Article from May, 2021? Hell, that was a lifetime ago.


37 posted on 09/04/2021 9:16:03 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: cgbg

Everything about this is a crap shoot....you just have to make your choices and hope for the best.

I am banking on being able to get that Antibody infusion in time...but by the time I need it they could have run out or the FDA could pause Regeneron like they did Eli Lilly

I am fed up with the experts who still don’t really know how to deal with this bioweapon.


38 posted on 09/04/2021 9:19:41 AM PDT by RummyChick (Bagram was the most logical exit point. Stand up and justify your decision (hat tip Larrytown))
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To: RummyChick
Everything about this is a crap shoot

I agree--and you have had some excellent posts on this.

I am gonna die--but it will be on my feet and not on my knees.
39 posted on 09/04/2021 9:23:40 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SoConPubbie
In Gwangju, an 81-year-old woman died an hour and 18 minutes after receiving the second Pfizer shot on May 12. Two minutes after her second shot, she lost consciousness and showed signs of anaphylaxis, or severe allergic reaction. In a preliminary examination, she was said to have no underlying disease. Health authorities, however, explained that none of the deaths reported so far are related to the vaccinations.

Yeah, right.

40 posted on 09/04/2021 9:24:32 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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