Posted on 09/01/2021 2:02:37 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- Pfizer released new data Wednesday indicating vaccine efficacy starts to decline around five to six months after the second dose, not eight months as originally thought.
It's raising questions if the three to four week gap between doses for Pfizer and Moderna was long enough to make the second shot the most effective.
"If this was a slow moving epidemic, you probably wouldn't have seen these three week gaps," said UCSF epidemiologist, Dr. George Rutherford. "You probably would've seen something longer."
"Why is that?" ABC7's Stephanie Sierra asked.
"Because it works better," he said. "If you have a little more space in between, you get over your primary immune reaction and then you're at the point where all your cells are primed and you can get a secondary immune reaction."
Rutherford says if we had a two month waiting period in between the first two doses of Pfizer and Moderna we may be in a little better place, but we will never know for certain.
"Who knows? But we would've tolerated a lot more cases getting that second dose," he said.
Rutherford says he wouldn't be surprised if a longer wait period in between doses will be recommended moving forward. Preliminary data released from Research Square Wednesday, showed a more productive antibody response from Pfizer after an eight to 16 week gap between doses - but the findings aren't yet peer reviewed.
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Ping!
Things we should have known.
Nobody knows anything.
Especially experts.
More proof biological sciences are NEVER settled.
So much for “follow the science”.
If it was settled we’d not be eating any fish or eggs anymore.
15 days...
These people have no idea what they’re doing.
They’re just spit balling at this point.
Another entertaining movie!
Would have been great to test this vaccine with standard testing and safety protocols. Seems those are no longer necessary. We will learn as we go along.
Well, gosh darn it! :|
Even when kids get booster shots for regular childhood disease vaccination, they don’t get them three weeks after the initial shot. But real science doesn’t matter….it was useful to the CDC to panic people and get them to go immediately for a second shot, so that’s all that matters. Politics and control.
Every day brings another reason I thank God I never allowed this unapproved mess into my body
they need a new dartboard....
99.8% chance you recover people. Think about it.
Hindsight 20/20. That’s ok though. No harm done. ~sarc
We have assumptions, which are very (very!) dangerous.
We have no data - none.
I am so sick of this...it’s war and the shots are merely one form of ammo...imho
Most vaccines require a primary series to be fully immunized.
DPT for kids at 2,4 and 6 months. Booster at 18 months. Second booster ages 4-6.
Hepatitis B at 0, 1, and 6 months
Measles at 15 months and 6 years.
And so on.
The way these vaccines were developed and used, it would not have been possible under emergency use authorization (EUA) to vary from the 21 day or 28 day gap between two doses because EUA requires the method used in the trial(s) that justify the EUA in the first place.
The main reason Pfizer and Moderna were split into two doses was to lessen side effects.
I now think of the two doses as “split dose 1”, and the “booster” (really dose #3) as an attempt to complete the series.
But, new virus and new vaccine, what’s a complete series? No one has any idea. How could they?
A planet of lab rats with Big Pharma running experiments on every one and sanctioned by governments to do so.
If 100% of the government efforts and money had been put into (a) massively protecting the most vulnerable alone (no lock downs) and (b) finding effective treatments over finding vaccines, I surmise the pandemic would be over and Covid would be a very treatable illness.
Did we ever develop a successful HIV vaccine? No. But the effectiveness of treatments grew to where HIV is no longer considered a death sentence. And HIV is worse, because it in the class of viruses known as retroviruses.
We are now seeing Covid19 treatments advancing, but to me it is maybe a year later than could have been if that was where our Covid19 R&D efforts had been spent.
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