Posted on 09/03/2021 10:43:00 PM PDT by ransomnote
The medical community, starting with Wuhan Fauci, the NIH, the CDC, and the FDA, and all who are slave to their dictates have violated our trust, and that is a tremendous understatment.
The truth about the disastrous Covid-19 'vaccines' is leaking out despite all the Hospital/Medical board/University/ MSM/Big Tech help censoring and threatening people to silence.
I see two new alternatives being floated as possible vaccine or treatment alternatives. I provide information about each of these insultingly inferior options below.
It's past time to allow doctors to return to prescribing Ivermectin and HCQ, as they have been doing safetly for decades, along with other options our physicians feel are best for us and let us choose.
Given a choice, anyone comparing the historical safety record of HCQ, Ivermectin etc. to these two new alternatives would be hard pressed to find a reason WHY they would choose that which the medical establishment will likely allow (Prevnar13, Bacitinib) over those which the CDC/FDA have witheld from dying people for NO REASON for almost 2 years now. NONE.
After tormenting the nation with a fake plandemic, fake PCR tests, irrational/unhealthy mask mandates, isolation, denial of care, toxic vaccines, divisive fear mongering, and lockdowns, the medical establishment isn't done with us yet. It's not giving up attempts at full medical tyranny. We can't give up striving for our freedom, either. If we find it too hard, awkward or exhausting to resist vaccine passports, mandates and other lies, we become slaves.
Pneumonia Vaccine May Affect Course of COVID-19 | Kaiser Permanente
The study upon which Kaiser based its report:
From 2010 to the present, the CDC published reports of post vaccination deaths to VAERS for a total of 126 vaccines.
115 vaccines received 1% or less of the total number of reports of deaths following vaccination except the 9 vaccines receiving the highest number of reports.
[Data In VAERS as of 9/3/2021]. Note that Covid 'vaccines' include 2 out of every 3 deaths reported following vaccination, and published to VAERS, from 2010 to the present.
Following Covid 'vaccines,' PREVNAR13 by Pfizer\WYETH accounts for 4% of reports, which is 2 times to 4 times greater than the remaining 122 Vaccines for which the VAERS database contains published reports of death following Vaccination.
Naturally, Pfizer/Wyeth's vaccine is now being promoted as a potential 'vaccine' alternative for Covid-19 'vaccines'.
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Posted on 9/3/2021, 7:52:10 PM by Fractal Trader
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That is so surprising!
Two, count 'em TWO separate Dracarys moments in the same thread.
That's unusual, but not unheard of.
I agree. The government should be making things easier like not tying the hands of doctors, nurses, and patients. Let us make the decisions.
But of course this was a crisis the globalists, oligarchs, control freaks, and Marxistcrats were not going to let go to waste.
This is their time to advance their agenda of control and power. To get the people to heel while they, as our overlords, decide everything for us because they know so much more about what is best for us than we do. /s
(with a twist)
See the article date? 23 de March, 2021
"Dr. Tenpenny explains how mRNA vaccines will begin the depopulation process in the next 3 to 6 months (July 2021). She and other scientists have predicted that millions of people could die and that their deaths would be attributed
to a new strain of COVID, to drive vaccines. " ( <----we are about here.
"These vaccines will essentially create a phenomenon called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) or an increased dependence on antibodies that will allow a “chunk” of messenger mRNA to replicate indefinitely creating chunks of protein (Protein Spike) inside our body. In response, it will produce antibodies, which is why Bill Gates said that our body will become an “automatic producer of endogenous vaccines” in response to these proteins.”
This is exactly what others are saying, yes including Montagnier (ADE issue)
As a parent of a child with a rare autoimmune disorder I have learned quite a bit about immunology throughout the years. I know what happens when the immune system turns on the body (conjunctivities, urethritis, etc. - appearance of rheumatoid arthritis (but is actually a type of cytokine storm attacking the joints)
The ADE makes perfect sense to me and it is nightmarish!
That is exactly what was in my brain - you mind reader
Ivermectin and HCQ are available by prescription from Walgreens and Walmart respectively via Goodrx for $34.00 and HCQ for $31.00, Zinc Sulfate is OTC. Caveat is they must be started within 48 hours of symptoms.
I am a pre-vax mutant sent here to the people of Earth from the planet Bagstafari X, before its too late.
I think you must have got that thought from the post vax planet Humastan 13 - that wasn’t me.
Ivermectin and HCQ are available by prescription from Walgreens and Walmart respectively via Goodrx for $34.00 and HCQ for $31.00, Zinc Sulfate is OTC. Caveat is they must be started within 48 hours of symptoms.
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Most people are repeatedly denied prescriptions for Ivermectin. At first it was formally forbidden by the CDC. Then the CDC stated it was then neutral to prescriptions for these, except they continued to threaten hospitals and doctors behind the scenes.
Ohio was recently the last state to federally register it’s hospitals. Those hospitals receive a 340 page CDC Covid Protocol to follow. That CDC protocol denigrates all useful therapies, right down to vitamin C and D, and requires doctors to limit treatment to hospitalized Covid patients to ventilators. Around the country, a few judges have forced the hospitals to accept Ivermectin prescriptions.
The CDC states to hospitals that the CDC will grant them immunity from all liability, no matter what quality of care they provide to Covid patients, as long as the hospitals adhere to their disastrous insistence that the sick shall not receive treatments. Court actions, open a crack in the door. Rarely do I hear that anyone is able to get a prescription, and those that do usually have to go through online pharmacies to get it filled, and those pharmacies are experiencing shortages.
Should a DR who specializes in surgery of an organ know that the organ is often involved in a particular disease or must I always carry around scientific papers like this just to educate him after he got his fancy dancy medical degree
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4817423/
Yeah..sometimes patients know more than a DR.
“Did you ever tell us where you got your medical training?”
We have WHITE PEOPLE here that comment on RACIAL topics.
We have MEN here that comment on WOMEN’S topics.
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There are plenty of ‘members only’ forums on the web one can go to if they only want to discuss things with credentialed people. This, however, is not one of them.
It was recommended early on that seniors get their pneumonia shot updated. The pneumonia shot protects against bacterial not viral pneumonia, but, it does last about 10 years so it’s a great vaccination - priority seniors.
HCQ, AZ and ivermectin have been voted off the island. Ivermectin was dropped from the two largest trials as ‘futile,’ the last one about two weeks ago. HCQ also performed poorly and was dropped from the large African trial and a different, equally inexpensive drug, Nitazoxanide, took the slot. Azithromyicin is one of the strongest bactericides left in an antibiotic-resistant world. Indiscriminate use will screw us.
There are several anti-viral oral meds in Phase 2/3, one by Merck, one by Pfitzer, a remdisivir=alike by Gilead, and ADMP’s candidate. Let’s hope to see one by the end of the year.
If you’re vaccine-adverse, the best strategy is to isolate from groups, test often so you know when to go to an infusion center, know where your antibody infusion centers are, and pray supplies aren’t rationed when you need them. If you don’t have a doctor, find one, so you have a number to call if you get sick and need a referral. right now the only pre-hospital solution is vaccines or mab infusions. Of the infusions, casirivimab-imdevimab Regeneron is out for those with baby cell issues with vaccines, leaving EliLilly’s bamlanivimab/etesevimab, or Sotrovimab, which may not be widely available. Infusions are not a substitute for a vaccine, may have unknown side effects, and may affect your immune system negatively.
obligatory don’t use feed store ivermectin scary story:
“... people coming in with vision loss,” the doctor said.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/
Nonsense. Anyone can compare studies and compile stats or determine if double-blind, placebo was used versus unblinded, etc.
You are grossly wrong.
ping to this post - some Novavax info
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Way back when, I said ....
8/13/2021, 9:04:03 PM · 21 of 49
Qiviut to servantboy777
Do more research on Novavax ... heard some really disappointing not-good-news of the type that you won’t want to take this one either. I believe it was either Dr. Fleming or Dr. Stocks. If I run back across the info, I’ll send it to you.
Early on in the Covid wars, a physician remarked that he suspected they were losing seniors because they were missing the transition from Covid to bacterial pneumonia. I think that's quite true. I also think assertions that the CDC has been claiming Pneumonia numbers as flu numbers to push the vax is true. In other words, pneumonia is still rampant compared with flu - the vaccines likely have little efficacy.
HCQ, AZ and ivermectin have been voted off the island.
Where? Japan? Not so.
Other nations are reporting excellent success in knocking out Covid with Ivermectin too.
The CDC and it's collaborators pretend Ivermectin's marked efficacy and safety simply doesn't exist because it threatens their control of the world. This is the same tactic they are using with election fraud - they simply state no evidence exists and treat those with hard evidence as insane liars.
Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 - ScienceDirect14-fold reductions in excess deaths with IVM use in Peru, then 13-fold increase after IVM restricted
The CDC is essentially saying information that proves they have been conducting crimes against humanity actually doesn't exist anywhere and the media helps carry the gaslighting excercise down the field.
Ivermectin was dropped from the two largest trials as ‘futile,’ the last one about two weeks ago.
Ivermectin has been safe and effective, even against Covid, for decades. The deep state runs fake drug trials wherein it provides under dosing, over dosing, delayed dosing etc. It's a game to rig trials to fail. It now suits the agenda of the CDC to pretend Ivermectin's proven success is the product of backward fantasies. Fortunately, nations around the world are waking up and taking matters into their own hands. There's a graph around here comparing African nations who use Ivermectin with those nations which don't. Astounding difference - excellent news for those with access to safe, affordable, effective Ivermectin.
HCQ also performed poorly and was dropped from the large African trial and a different, equally inexpensive drug, Nitazoxanide, took the slot. Azithromyicin is one of the strongest bactericides left in an antibiotic-resistant world. Indiscriminate use will screw us.
HCQ is working extremely well in combination with AZ, when given at proper dosage and timing. This is something the CDC and it's coconspirators distort - they overdose/underdose or give in isolation that which works best in tandem. They do this to create fake studies to falsely portray effective medications as failures. Drs McCullough and Zelenko use medicaitons like HCQ/AZ and report that it cuts risk of hospitalization and death 85% or more among vulnerable patients (aged, multiple comorbidities)
There are several anti-viral oral meds in Phase 2/3, one by Merck, one by Pfitzer, a remdisivir=alike by Gilead, and ADMP’s candidate. Let’s hope to see one by the end of the year.
The same people perpetrating fraud and harm on the public are searching for alternatives and denying the use of safe effective medications. Anthony Fauci submitted a drug for trial in Africa - another drug in that trial was Remsvidir. Both Fauci's drug and Remsvidir for safety hazards (the benefits did not outway the harm caused) . So Fauci certainly knew Remsvidir was not considered safe for Africans in the drug trials, so medicaitons like HCQ and Ivermectin were replaced with unsafe Remsvidir. To hear you say another drug similar is in the works is not encouraging.
Given the effort they are going through to harm the public, the latest drug they are pushing does not inspire confidence.
If you’re vaccine-adverse,
Just Covid 'vaccine' adverse, but the 'narrative' claims anyone distrustful of the Covid dog and pony show is completly adverse to all vaccines, if not technology and all modern medicine.
the best strategy is to isolate from groups,
Actually, that weakens immune function. Immune systems require contact with pathogens to toughen up and function optimally. Isolation, as the CDC has enacted, has weakend immune function on a national scale. Our immune system can and has handled Coronaviruses in the past and many have demonstrated immunity to Covid (e.g., Covid is not a 'novel' virus as the CDC claims, obviously). In fact, the CDC insists the flu just up and disappeared.
test often,
But the CDC has tacitly admitted that the PCR test doesn't work, and there are lawsuits to that effect. The PCR does not detect disease and was created without access to the Covid virus. It tests fruit, goats and Coca Cola positive for Covid an has a 97% + false positive rate.
so you know when to go to an infusion center, know where your antibody infusion centers are, and pray supplies aren’t rationed when you need them.
Infusions are a 2nd or 3rd tier treatment, not as available or effective as Ivermectin, otherwise the deep state would not permit their use. Infusions are tricky in that physically a person will tend to feel well enough to function until they seek infusion centers, at which time they are told that, technically, their blood oxygen is lower than acceptable and treatment is denied them. At that point ALL treatment, except ventilators, are denied them. Best to line up your alternative treatment protocol in advance - you need to start treatment the moment you feel ill.
If you don’t have a doctor, find one, so you have a number to call if you get sick and need a referral. right now the only pre-hospital solution is vaccines or mab infusions.
Actually, while the Biden regime is moving to shut down access to Ivermectin, you can still get it by calling America's Frontline Doctors. It's less expensive to get an appointment and secure medications before you ever become ill - have them on hand - because their services are so impacted by all those fleeing our failed medical system that it can take 2 to 5 days to get an appointment and then you need time to secure medications, although some report getting them the next day others report their pharmacy is out of certain drugs.
Of the infusions, casirivimab-imdevimab Regeneron is out for those with baby cell issues with vaccines, leaving EliLilly’s bamlanivimab/etesevimab, or Sotrovimab, which may not be widely available.
There are also requirements, like co morbidities etc. ANd they are operating under EAU's that can be removed over night.
Infusions are not a substitute for a vaccine, may have unknown side effects, and may affect your immune system negatively.
The negative impacts of vaccines are devastating and long term impacts unknown. More have died following Covid vaccination than any other vaccine in the past 30 years of VAERS database record keeping.
obligatory don’t use feed store ivermectin scary story:
“... people coming in with vision loss,” the doctor said.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/
obligatory don't forgo Ivermectin or other alternatives in the belief hospitals or vaccines will help you.
Hospitals:
Vaccines:
THere are many 'underground' style compilations of people trying to reach the public with their horrible medical stories. Below are clips from one.
Her hands started shaking that morning until it spread all over her body
In the clip below, she says she's taking deep breaths, and "This is not a panic attack". At the end of the video she turns to the camera and says, "We need help."
The one following is of a child having a seizure that's hard to unsee - so I'll include the link only.
https://i.imgur.com/hLgoAeX.gif
Then the same video cuts to a reporter asking if the 'vaccines' are safe given 80% of trial participants had system adverse events (e.g., chills etc.) and Bill Gates responds saying it's not severe in that the effects were not permanent. Then the video of the boy seizing resumes.
All these clips and more found here:
1000 COVID Stories – Share Your Story
Prepare in advance, how to deal with outpatient illness, and especially how to content with our hospital system if your loved one must go there, even for car accident or cardiac arrest, because upon admittance, they give you a Covid test and if you test positive, you can be detained (medical kidnap) and have medical decision making taken away from you. Here's a link to help you prepare.
You are incredibly wrong.
HCQ studies: 344 studies, 250 peer reviewed, 281 comparing treatment and control groups. HCQ is not effective when used very late with high dosages over a long period (RECOVERY/SOLIDARITY), effectiveness improves with earlier usage and improved dosing. Early treatment consistently shows positive effects. Negative evaluations typically ignore treatment time, often focusing on a subset of late stage studies. In Vitro evidence made some believe that therapeutic levels would not be attained, however that was incorrect, e.g. see [Ruiz].
HCQ provides a 64% improvement in patients and a if used early and a 75% improvement in early mortality, but only 23% improvement in mortality across all (including late) stages. It is effectively not useful at late stage use, which a majority of studies covered.
Ivermectin studies: 113 studies, 73 peer reviewed, 63 with results comparing treatment and control groups.
Ivermectin provides a 68% improvement in patients and a 58% improvement in mortality across all stages. Strangely, ivermectin only provides a 37% improvement in early stage mortality, so it appears to reduce death occurrence best in later stages, compared with not getting it.
I’ll toss in my own personal anecdote which is as likely pure luck as not.
When the COVID idiocy began and we learned about basic issues that lead to vulnerability, such as vitamin D deficiency and such, we began a daily regiment to reinforce our immune systems.
We travelled all over the country multiple times the past 18 months, ate out constantly, went to bars and didn’t wear masks. We weren’t licking the surface of the bar or anything but we weren’t living in fear.
This was an attempt to bolster and continue to reinforce our immune systems. If we lost our immunity to basic ailments we felt that was as much a risk as a full viral load of COVID.
After being painfully sick with a bug in January 2020 with the worst back aches I ever experienced from whatever bug it was, we’ve barely had much more than the sniffles a few days. Over 20 months.
Again, easily attributed to luck, so I would not say this is some secret to avoiding COVID. We are simply being proactive in reinforcing our immune response.
And partying it up while we can.
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