Try Spinning This

WSJ ^ | 3 Sept 2021 | James Freeman

[DUMBGRUNT]

Another Portland, Ore., official quits after laboring to defend the indefensible.

Some intolerable events simply cannot be spun, even by the most talented of message massagers.

A recent Journal editorial summed up the mayor’s appalling message to his community: Anarchy is tolerable as long as you’re merely shooting at each other.

Photos obtained by The New York Times show him sitting with about a dozen people — almost all unmasked — testing the limits of the strict new mask rules.

Who can blame them? For more than a year Portland’s mayor has been asking citizens to accept both limits on their liberty and threats to their safety. Perhaps his staff is just tired of defending him.

[Secret Agent Man]

That ornage gun is probably a flare gun.

[blueunicorn6]

I wouldn’t bet my life on a non black pistol.

There’s paint everywhere.

[Deaf Smith]

No CO2 supply...Not a paint ball gun.

Orange does not render a firearm safe.

[DUMBGRUNT]

Full TXT:
https://archive.vn/ZEwsc

[Tallguy]

,Shotguns with bean bag rounds. Put ‘em down cuff them and process them. Oh, and the DA should immediately release names so their schools and employers can take action. The political will only flows in the other direction, unfortunately.

[Drago]

Probably CO2 BB or “Airsoft”:

https://24.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/dsretail02/images/g-g-xtreme-45-co2-blowback-full-metal-airsoft-bb-gun-black-and-orange-3788-p.jpeg?v=1

[lapsus calami]

 

 

That's the RWS/Umarex T4E .50cal C02 pistol that shoots pepperballs or solid rubber rounds. Can get them at Amazon.com or gun dealers for around a 100 bucks. Says much about their level of belligerence for them to be using those in the open like that. Don't know about Oregon but in some states using something like that is on the same level with deadly force.

 

 

[jonrick46]

The orange color is used to denote a toy gun. However, one could paint a real gun orange and get a quick shot off at an off-guard officer.

Byrna makes an "ungun" that is offered in different colors including orange. It shoots a .68 caliber round kinetic and chemical irritant projectile that explodes when it hits to disable a threat from up to 60-feet away. I think an officer would take it as seriously as a real gun.

[Paladin2]

Ban Orange paint....

[deks]

Yeah

G&G Xtreme 45 airsoft BB gun

Shoots 0.20 gram 6mm plastic BB pellets at about 400 ft/sec

[Drago]

Thanks for the info..

https://www.umarexusa.com/t4e-hdp-prepared-to-protect-pepper-ball-self-defense-pistol

[vpintheak]

Anyone can paint the top slide of their pistol orange. If I am getting shot at by a person with an orange slide on their pistol, I am returning fire unless I know its a toy.

[lapsus calami]

 

 

A defensive device being used on the offense, which is normally bad juju from a legal standpoint. But we're talking about dystopian Portland here, so who knows.

 

 

[deks]

I think that may be it. Here's a photo of the RWS/Umarex pistol

[Deaf Smith]

How many shots would one get for pushing a 50 cal with a in grip CO2 cartridge?

[deks]

DUMBGRUNT said:

Anyone know about this photo? Guessing they are paintball guns?

If you return fire on an orange weapon with a real weapon, is that a big problem? Asking for a friend.

[photo at article link]

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Thanks for posting...good replies so far.

The HDP 50 pepper round pistol helps you in being Prepared to Protect™. The T4E P2P HDP 50 was developed by UMAREX, a family-owned company with an interest in empowering people with the confidence to protect themselves, their families, and possessions without the use of a firearm.

Its easy-to-use quick response charge and multiple .50 caliber pepper rounds provide confidence during intense situations. Comes with 10 rubber rounds for practice and training and 10 pepper rounds for self-defense. 12-gram CO2 cartridge.

[deks]

10 rounds

[lapsus calami]

 

 

You'll have to check with Umarex about that. I imagine those buttheads are packing pocket loads of C02 cartridges and ball ammo.

 

 

[Deaf Smith]

What I remember as a kid, it was a involved procedure to change out a CO2 cartridge.