Posted on 08/31/2021 12:25:35 PM PDT by Red Badger
New research found that natural immunity offers exponentially more protection than COVID-19 vaccines.
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A newly published medical study found that infection from COVID-19 confers considerably longer-lasting and stronger protection against the Delta variant of the virus than vaccines.
“The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a ‘Don’t try this at home’ label,” the Scientific American reported Thursday. “The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19.”
Put another way, vaccinated individuals were 27 times more likely to get a symptomatic COVID infection than those with natural immunity from COVID.
In Israel, vaccinated individuals had 27 times higher risk of symptomatic COVID infection compared to those with natural immunity from prior COVID disease [95%CI:13-57, adjusted for time of vaccine/disease]. No COVID deaths in either group.https://t.co/hopImCD1D0
— Martin Kulldorff (@MartinKulldorff) August 25, 2021
A Death Blow to Vaccine Passports? The findings come as many governments around the world are demanding citizens acquire “vaccine passports” to travel. New York City, France, and the Canadian provinces of Quebec and British Columbia are among those who have recently embraced vaccine passports.
Meanwhile, Australia has floated the idea of making higher vaccination rates a condition of lifting its lockdown in jurisdictions, while President Joe Biden is considering making interstate travel unlawful for people who have not been vaccinated for COVID-19.
Vaccine passports are morally dubious for many reasons, not the least of which is that freedom of movement is a basic human right. However, vaccine passports become even more senseless in light of the new findings out of Israel and revelations from the CDC, some say.
Harvard Medical School professor Martin Kulldorff said research showing that natural immunity offers exponentially more protection than vaccines means vaccine passports are both unscientific and discriminatory, since they disproportionately affect working class individuals.
“Prior COVID disease (many working class) provides better immunity than vaccines (many professionals), so vaccine mandates are not only scientific nonsense, they are also discriminatory and unethical,” Kulldorff, a biostatistician and epidemiologist, observed on Twitter.
Prior COVID disease (many working class) provides better immunity than vaccines (many professionals), so vaccine mandates are not only scientific nonsense, they are also discriminatory and unethical. https://t.co/d14kTPnCWk
— Martin Kulldorff (@MartinKulldorff) August 27, 2021
Nor is the study out of Israel a one-off. Media reports show that no fewer than 15 academic studies have found that natural immunity offers more protection from COVID-19 than the virus.
“Among the most fraudulent messages of the CDC's campaign of deceit is to force the vaccine on those with prior infection, who have a greater degree of protection against all versions of the virus than those with any of the vaccines.”
15 studies show…https://t.co/oXaI3L0Y3S
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) August 26, 2021
Moreover, CDC research shows that vaccinated individuals still get infected with COVID-19 and carry just as much of the virus in their throat and nasal passage as unvaccinated individuals
“High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus,” CDC Rochelle Director Walensky noted following a Cape Cod outbreak that included mostly vaccinated individuals.
These data suggest that vaccinated individuals are still spreading the virus much like unvaccinated individuals.
The Bottom Line Vaccine passports would be immoral and a massive government overreach even in the absence of these findings. There is simply no historical parallel for governments attempting to restrict the movements of healthy people over a respiratory virus in this manner.
Yet the justification for vaccine passports becomes not just wrong but absurd in light of these new revelations.
People who have had COVID already have significantly more protection from the virus than people who’ve been vaccinated. Meanwhile, people who’ve not had COVID and choose to not get vaccinated may or may not be making an unwise decision. But if they are, they are principally putting only themselves at risk.
Probably not.
But there is also another question: does getting the vaccine prevent you from developing natural immunity if you are later infected with COVID?
That’s a very important question that needs to be asked.
Vaccine passports are just a stalking horse for social credit passports.
I have had the vaccine but I am not going to present my papers to anyone.
“Thanks for this post. I wish I had it the other day when I saw my idiot Doctor who was telling me I need to get vaccinated even though I had covid.”
The article supports your doctor!
“does getting the vaccine on top of natural immunity damper the natural immunity?”
Read the article.
” I saw it with my own eyes right on their web site that the vaccine wiped out existing antibodies.”
According to this study the vaccine enhances acquired. immunity.
Believe what you want, I know what I read. And they made a very big deal of scrubbing that info everywhere and making it look like like a conspiracy
According to reality, those exposed to SARS in 2003 have immunity to SARS COVID-19.
“My son in law’s brother has COVID...and they made him get vaccinated in the hospital. He’s home now but very, very sick.”
Something is wrong with this picture!
If we fire all the idiot doctors pretty soon we’ll be out of doctors.
Incredible isn’t it? Yeah, fire him.
Good luck finding another.
“According to reality, those exposed to SARS in 2003 have immunity to SARS COVID-19.”
When getting COVID vaccination:
To test that possibility, Wang’s team compared neutralizing antibodies from the vaccinated SARS survivors—all health care workers in Singapore—with those from SARS patients who had not received a COVID-19 vaccine. Wang’s team also analyzed antibodies in three other groups: unvaccinated people who currently had COVID-19, along with vaccinated people who had recovered from SARS-CoV-2 or had never been infected with that virus.
The vaccinated SARS survivors were the only cohort whose antibodies neutralized 10 different coronaviruses, according to a new assay Wang’s team developed that tests the antibodies’ ability to block binding between ACE2 and the receptor-binding domains (RBDs) of different spikes. And the levels of the neutralizing antibodies were relatively high against each one. “It’s superinteresting,” says Neil King, a biomedical engineer at the University of Washington, Seattle, who is also working on pancoronavirus vaccines. “It may lead people to reprioritize their efforts.”
How would the vaccine cause a COVID infection?
It’s never been about protection from Covid. It’s really all about big-govt control.
I did not say that, reread my post and the post I was responding to.
“I did not say that, reread my post and the post I was responding to.”
Do you think the vaccine causes infections?
“It’s never been about protection from Covid. It’s really all about big-govt control.”
Why was Trump’s motive for this big government control plan?
Some say that, but covid was around before the vaccine. I do believe the data suggesting the vaccine is screwing with people’s immune systems and causing a whole host of issues itself such as microclotting.
Because of the prevalence of leaky vaccines, I don’t see the world ever getting to herd immunity. The virus is here to stay. Your only hope is to naturally get it and get over it. We need to develop effective treatment options. Right now any treatment options other than vaccines and ventilators are prohibited from consideration.
“Some say that,”
What do you say?
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