Posted on 08/31/2021 6:10:41 AM PDT by Meah
If I am mandated to receive a COVID-19 vaccine in order to keep my job, and subsequently experience an adverse event, who is responsible? Who is responsible if I have neurological complications, a heart attack, or a stroke and am never able to work again. Who is responsible if I die?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’ve read that neither the vaccine companies, the government entities imposing the mandates, nor the employers themselves will be held responsible in any way if the worst happens. In fact, from what I’ve seen and read so far, it will take a Herculean effort to prove that my adverse reaction was caused by the vaccine. Correlation does not equal causation, they say. But when you are counted as a COVID-19 death, correlation ALWAYS equals causation.
Recently there was a lawsuit filed against the federal government accusing the government of covering up the fact that 45,000 people have died within the first three days of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.1 There are over 13,000 deaths reported to VAERS (vaccine adverse event reporting system) on the CDC website.2 This number is widely believed to include only 1-10 percent of the actual deaths that have occurred. And then there are hundreds of thousands of transient to severe reactions reported to VAERS. That being said, I can easily find article after article debunking the accuracy of these statistics. Anyone can report anything in the VAERS system, they say, so obviously it is not going to be perfect. But it is the ONLY avenue people have to account for their experiences. A line item on a discounted reporting system is the ONLY recourse one has when they believe they’ve lost their loved one to this “safe and effective” vaccine. …
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What a con!
First, they say there are no risks THEN they jump through their own a@!holes to exempt themselves from any litigation arising from
repercussions.
You have no idea.
Deep State has immunized everybody involved, those who do what they’re told anyway, so that vaccine victims have zero recourse.
>>This number is widely believed to include only 1-10 percent of the actual deaths that have occurred.
No, its absolutely not - do you really think that doctors have only reported 1%-10% of the deaths? Give me a break.
Yes, some things, perhaps many things (like having a sore arm after the shot), don’t end up in VAERS - because the symptoms are minor, and nobody cares - but there is absolutely ZERO percent chance that doctors are not reporting 90%-99% of the deaths.
OSHA drops BOMBSHELL: Employers who mandate covid vaccines may be held liable for “any adverse reaction”
Well, if businesses are liable for adverse reactions, why is State or Fed Gov not liable?
Right...but, ‘I did what I was told’, is an excuse that went out with the trial of Nazi war criminals, at Nuremburg!!
One thing for sure, the government is never held to account.
I’m not saying those numbers are correct, but I think they mean they aren’t calling them vaccine related deaths, not failing to report the deaths at all.
That’s my take, though I could certainly be wrong.
From what I have heard once you sign your name just prior to getting the shot, nobody is responsible/liable. You sign your life away with these shots!!
Conservative ideal:
You are ultimately responsible for your own health and well-being.
Think about it & choose wisely.
So you believe that 1,300,000 people have died from the vaccine, and VAERS only shows 1%, or 13,000 - wow, the bodies must be piled up in box cars someplace.
1.3 million vaccine deaths, and nobody has noticed? - do you really believe this stuff?
>>That’s my take, though I could certainly be wrong.
Yes, you are - use some common sense when some folks repeatedly state that the actual vaccine deaths are 100X what has been reported.
You just cannot cover up 1.3 million deaths no matter how hard anybody tries.
If someone takes the jab because of a mandate and then gets injured as a result, who bears the responsibility?
I agree that it is a straw man that you are attacking, “widely believed” and all.
But it is entirely possible, despite your indignations. If the numbers are low enough, they could be off substantially. It would be quite easy to even innocently confuse causes of death in the face of sources of other large numbers like the virus, itself.
As I say, the entire piece may be a straw man, however. The real responsibility is more likely to be for aggravating the spread of a virus by inoculating for the wrong one.
I belong to a business networking group in the area where my company is located. COVID-19 has been a major topic of discussion over the last 18 months for obvious reasons. The discussions have tended to revolve around how the different business owners in the group have fared during the fiasco, if/how they've changed their operations in the short term, what permanent changes they've made, etc.
Lately, the conversations have started to migrate over to things like mask and vaccine mandates. These discussions tend to get more political than the group has ever been. Most of the people in the group are pathetic sheep, I hate to say. I don't fit in well with people like that, and to be honest I'm really surprised any independent business owner would have the mindset that some of these people have.
Anyway ... one business owner in particular -- he owns a company with 100-150 employees -- has been on a crusade to push vaccine mandates. He's really gotten tiresome with the regular e-mails with pro-vaxx messages. His last one was sent out shortly after the FDA recently announced that it had approved (or maybe not) one of the vaccines. He said he hoped that this move by the FDA would spur more and more private businesses to impose vaccine mandates on their employees.
I engaged in a reasoned e-mail exchange with him highlighting my concerns. He was very respectful. This went on for a couple of days, until I asked a seemingly innocuous question about how he was addressing one thing or another with his own company's vaccine mandate.
I was totally unprepared for the answer he gave me:
"I am not requiring my own employees to get vaccinated."
That was the last time I took the moron seriously, and I'm sure he knows it.
I also understand very clearly why he has refused to impose a vaccine mandate for his own employees. HE IS A LAWYER.
That's not all OSHA has done. My company just announced a vaccine mandate. They also noted that OSHA will not enforce their own requirement of recording workplace injuries when it is a side effect of the vaccine.
From their website:
The Department of Labor and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, or disincentivizing employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.
>>If someone takes the jab because of a mandate and then gets injured as a result, who bears the responsibility?
I believe their is advice from OSHA that if an employer requires the vaccine as a condition of employment, and there are bad outcomes, it is considered a work-related injury - so employers are on the hook for damages, lost wages etc.
I suspect there are going to be tons of lawsuits and settlements from people forced to take the vaccine for work, and then having real (or imagined) bad outcomes, there will be a line of lawyers willing to take on cases like this.
IMO, as it should be.
it came back last week with the fall of kabul , imho
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