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N-Acetyl Cysteine question

Posted on 08/30/2021 7:30:38 AM PDT by far sider

My 16 year old has learning disabilities related to a genetic condition (nf). He took part in a double blind study of NAC over the summer at Cincinnati Childrens Hospital. We don't know if he got the drug or the placebo and we don't know the dosage. But he seemed to improve noticeably when he was doing the study and I am considering getting more NAC for him. Can anyone tell me what a good dosage would be? And what is a good source to buy from?

Also I just saw a comment on FR that NAC was good to tinnitus. My tinnitus which was already bad has worsened since I got covid last December, so I want to try it as well. Any knowledgeable advise would be appreciated.


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To: far sider

Mark


61 posted on 08/30/2021 10:04:10 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: upchuck

It happens.;)


62 posted on 08/30/2021 10:05:57 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: bhl

“But you won’t believe it and will blame everything under the sun except the root cause of his death— not taking a simple vaccine.”

It’s not a “simple vaccine”. As a matter of fact, it’s not a vaccine at all. Do some more research but I suspect you won’t as you appear to be pushing the Franken-Jab.


63 posted on 08/30/2021 10:10:01 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: Jane Long

The unvaccinated are practically the ones dying. No amount of hand waving changes that. Not getting vaccinated and spreading lies that the vaccine is risky is getting people killed. Your misinformation could end up killing you or someone who listens to you. It is happening a hundreds of times each day. Cheers!


64 posted on 08/30/2021 10:37:06 AM PDT by bhl
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To: far sider
This is as close as I could find on your question. If nothing else, it points the way for a safe dose, apparently.

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"We are encouraged by the potential use of NAC in children with ASD who have more severe emotional or behavioral difficulties (e.g., irritability, self-injurious behaviors, obsessive-compulsive behaviors).

Our titration recommendation in this population mirrors that used elsewhere in the literature: oral capsules 600 mg twice daily for 1 week, 600 mg in the morning and 1200 mg at night for 1 week, and then 1200 mg twice daily. A trial of 8 to 12 weeks (at a minimum) should be considered to determine the effectiveness of this agent. Further large prospective research studies of these more complex patients are needed to support this approach."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7025748/

65 posted on 08/30/2021 10:40:29 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Flaming Conservative

I know-—and it is the only indication for it from... the FDA. See how that works? Biochemically useful for a lot of other issues, and over the counter for 60 years no prescription.

Imagine if aspirin, acetylsalicylic acid, were useful as a preventive of infection by covid-— at this point, are they crazy enough (or paid enough in kickbacks and under the table) to try and force aspirin to be prescription only? imho— yeah— they would. NAC is not, afaik prescription only in Europe (as are a lot of real drugs which ought to be—not so in Europe).


66 posted on 08/30/2021 11:06:44 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: saintgermaine

Great info— adding to database on the supplements. Vit C part especially. the anti-coronavirus supplement regimen (Marik protocol, Dr. Scheulte/MedCram and others) requires Vit C daily at 2grams+/day with the NAC 2x/day at 500 mg each. Water— plenty each day. And 7 hours sleep.


67 posted on 08/30/2021 11:26:41 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: far sider

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044191/

N-acetylcysteine in psychiatry: current therapeutic evidence and potential mechanisms of action

There is an expanding field of research investigating the benefits of alternatives to current pharmacological therapies in psychiatry. N-acetylcysteine (NAC) is emerging as a useful agent in the treatment of psychiatric disorders. Like many therapies, the clinical origins of NAC are far removed from its current use in psychiatry. Whereas the mechanisms of NAC are only beginning to be understood, it is likely that NAC is exerting benefits beyond being a precursor to the antioxidant, glutathione, modulating glutamatergic, neurotropic and inflammatory pathways. This review outlines the current literature regarding the use of NAC in disorders including addiction, compulsive and grooming disorders, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. N-acetylcysteine has shown promising results in populations with these disorders, including those in whom treatment efficacy has previously been limited. The therapeutic potential of this acetylated amino acid is beginning to emerge in the field of psychiatric research.

Much info at link above.


68 posted on 08/30/2021 11:39:26 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: Babsig

Thanks! A lot of places stopped selling it recently because of the government.


69 posted on 08/30/2021 11:59:31 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: bhl

Now type in “XI JINPING SUCKS MORE THAN KAMALA” so we can see you’re not a Chicom poster.

English isn’t your first language much, is it?


70 posted on 08/30/2021 12:01:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: bhl

You wish, troll.

Repeating a lie often enough does not make it true.


71 posted on 08/30/2021 12:05:37 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: LastDayz

Sleeper troll account.

Check out its posting history.


72 posted on 08/30/2021 12:06:42 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: bhl

The unvaccinated are practically the ones dying. No amount of hand waving changes that. Not getting vaccinated and spreading lies that the vaccine is risky is getting people killed. Your misinformation could end up killing you or someone who listens to you. It is happening a hundreds of times each day. Cheers!


Lol...talk about hair-on-fire “hand waving”.

Wrong, again.

What “misinformation“ and “spreading lies”, troll?

And, it’s not only, or even disproportionately, the un-“vax”d dying.

Only lefties believe that.

Maybe YOU should stop w /the MSM/CDC/FRAUDci provided fake news numbers/stats.

Talk about spreading (admitted) misinformation.

Perhaps you’re on the wrong forum.


73 posted on 08/30/2021 12:08:10 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: bhl; Jane Long
The unvaccinated are practically the ones dying. No amount of hand waving changes that. Not getting vaccinated and spreading lies that the vaccine is risky is getting people killed. Your misinformation could end up killing you or someone who listens to you. It is happening a hundreds of times each day. Cheers!

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Not true, of course.

We post research that proves you're wrong - that's what you call 'hand waving'.

We say the vaccine is risky. Countless experts, including Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the technology upon which many vaccines are based, advocates against the Covid 'vaccine'.

Here are his qualifications:

And here's what he has to say about the Covid vaccines.

DANGERS OF COVID-19 GENE-THERAPY VACCINES | AN EXCERPT FROM OUR CONVERSATION WITH ROBERT MALONE, MD [Transcript and 5 minute video]

Why take toxic products falsely portrayed as 'vaccines' when safe, effective medications have been available for 50 years?

KBirb on Twitter: AFRICA & IVEERMECTIN 31 countries (I marked in blue) have had regular dispensing/access to Ive*mectin. The others have not. A dramatic difference
Twitter ^ | Aug 27, 2021 | Twitter User: KBirb

We post international research all time, along with citizens gathering official data from countries and medical organizations that the CDC doesn't want us to have.

Then your kind shows up with 'hand waving' denunciations as if that's research. Are you self-concious about directly posting Anthony Fauci's talking points? Is promoting Joe Biden's disasterous tactics to force Americans to have toxic shots something you prefer indirectly through simpler 'hand waving' and 'lies' denunciations?

HINT: These are rhetorical questions.

74 posted on 08/30/2021 12:09:03 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: far sider
Can anyone tell me what a good dosage would be?

So you're leaving the health of your child up to the opinions of internet denizens?

Might as well ask if anyone here can give you a root canal in their garage cheaper than your dentist.........

75 posted on 08/30/2021 12:09:40 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Without potatoes, life has no meaning......)
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To: Karl Spooner
To Karl and others, Thanks for the helpful information. John has a condition called neurofibromatosis (NF-1). He is 16. He does not have any of the neurofibromas (tumors) that are often found in NF-1, but he has developmental delays and learning disabilities. The study he was involved in was to see if NAC improves the conduction of neural impulses to help with coordination issues for kids with NF-1. Cognitive and learning improvements were mentioned as possible side-benefits but was not the focus of the study.

My personal observation was that he seemed more able to focus and learn and express himself during the study. But as I mentioned, he may not have been in non-placebo group. But there seem to be a lot of potential benefits, some of which I learned about here, so I plan to give it a try. Thanks again, all of you.

76 posted on 08/30/2021 12:10:05 PM PDT by far sider
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To: ransomnote

Every hospital, county and state keep track of who is dying from covid related complications. This data is painfully obvious. Its trivial to find data that screams that overwhelmingly the dead are unvaccinated. And you say a simple “not true”. Give me a break.

Here is a store about real world data:

https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/health/2021/08/24/unvaccinated-37-times-more-likely-get-covid-19-than-vaccinated-riverside-county/5573484001/

Reading about a quack who feels there is danger in the vaccines is all fine and good. But it doesn’t negate the real world stats about who is dying. And that trying experimental treatments is at best a crapshoot.


77 posted on 08/30/2021 12:29:31 PM PDT by bhl
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To: bhl

New cases here are dropping off a cliff. I wonder if this is exactly what the Brits experienced, larges increases and then over in a month: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases


78 posted on 08/30/2021 12:30:34 PM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: bhl; Jane Long
Every hospital, county and state keep track of who is dying from covid related complications.

Were you just not in class the day we learned the PCR test is invalid and has a 97%+ false positive rate?

And that the CDC falsely claims anyone who dies within 60 days of having a positive FAKE PCR test is a 'covid death?' Remember the presser where a reporter asked if someone dying of motorcycle accident with a positive PCR test 7 weeks prior would still be counted as a Covid death? Remember the way the CDC spokesperson said it would count as a Covid death? 'Member?

Were you 'cutting class' in MAY when the CDC quietly released data showing that 95% of the people they claim died from Covid actually had an average of 4 other co-morbidities (HINT: they died of other things) and only 5% died of what the FAKE PCR test said was Covid? Even you must know the CDC is replacing the PCR because of 'ahem' problems?

Say, even you must have noticed that once a person gets a 'positive' result on a FAKE PCR test, all medications are denied them? Gosh, wonder what the death toll would have been if, you know, we just treated sick people. I mean, all that untreated pneumonia is gonna leave a statisical mark, am I right? 

This data is painfully obvious. Its trivial to find data that screams that overwhelmingly the dead are unvaccinated. And you say a simple “not true”. Give me a break.

It's just that you push Fauci, CDC and Biden lies and expect to be taken seriously.

Here is a store about real world data:

https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/health/2021/08/24/unvaccinated-37-times-more-likely-get-covid-19-than-vaccinated-riverside-county/5573484001/

Reading about a quack who feels there is danger in the vaccines is all fine and good. But it doesn’t negate the real world stats about who is dying. And that trying experimental treatments is at best a crapshoot.

Quack? Do you really know nothing, or are you just pretending? It's not his 'feelings' he's talking about; he's following the research he invented.

Robert W. Malone, M.D., M.S.

Dr. Malone is the discoverer of in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection and the inventor of mRNA vaccines, while he was at the Salk Institute in 1988. His research was continued at Vical in 1989, where the first in-vivo mammalian experiments were designed by him. The mRNA, constructs, reagents were developed at the Salk institute and Vical by Dr. Malone. The initial patent disclosures were written by Dr. Malone in 1988-1989. Dr. Malone was also an inventor of DNA vaccines in 1988 and 1989. This work results in over 10 patents and numerous publications, yielding about 7000 citations for this work. Dr. Malone was also an inventor of DNA vaccines in 1988 and 1989.

Dr. Malone has extensive research and development experience in the areas of pre-clinical discovery research, clinical trials, vaccines, gene therapy, bio-defense, and immunology. He has over twenty years of management and leadership experience in academia, pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, as well as in governmental and non-governmental organizations.

Dr. Malone specializes in clinical research, medical affairs, regulatory affairs, project management, proposal management (large grants and contracts), vaccines and biodefense. This includes writing, developing, reviewing and managing vaccine, bio-threat and biologics clinical trials and clinical development strategies. He has been involved in developing, designing, and providing oversight of approximately forty phase 1 clinical trials and twenty phase 2 clinical trials, as well as five phase 3 clinical trials. He has served as medical director/medical monitor on approximately forty phase 1 clinical trials, and on twenty phase 2 clinical trials, including those run at vaccine-focused Clinical Research Organizations. His proposal development work has yielded clients billions of dollars.

Scientifically trained at UC Davis, UC San Diego, and at the Salk Institute Molecular Biology and Virology laboratories, Dr. Malone is an internationally recognized scientist (virology, immunology, molecular biology) and is known as one of the original inventors of mRNA vaccination and DNA Vaccination. His discoveries in mRNA non viral delivery systems are considered the key to the current COVID-19 vaccine strategies. Dr. Malone holds numerous fundamental domestic and foreign patents in the fields of gene delivery, delivery formulations, and vaccines.

He received his medical training at Northwestern University (MD) and Harvard University (Clinical Research Post Graduate) medical school, and in Pathology at UC Davis.

Dr. Malone has close to 100 peer-reviewed publications and published abstracts and has over 11,477 citations of his peer reviewed publications, as verified by Google Scholar.

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You're the one doing the handwaving. Entire nations are finding extensive success with Ivermectin. There's a mountain of evidence proving the safety and efficacy of FDA Approved Ivermectin, which has been in use for over 50 years.

KBirb on Twitter: AFRICA & IVEERMECTIN 31 countries (I marked in blue) have had regular dispensing/access to Ive*mectin. The others have not. A dramatic difference

I quote the inventor of mRNA technology and you attempt to handwave his expertise by claiming he's a quack relying on his 'feelings'. Instead, you counter with a quote from "Public Health Director Kim Saruwatari", a government employee charged with making happen what Anthony Fauci and his Chinese handlers want to happen.

79 posted on 08/30/2021 12:50:31 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: John S Mosby

And I thought the Obama administration did a lot of damage!


80 posted on 08/30/2021 12:51:13 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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