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Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 08/28/21 Vol.367, Q Day 1401
qalerts.net ^ | 8/28/2021 | FReeQs, FReepers, and vanity

Posted on 08/28/2021 1:58:27 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: ransomnote
"When President Trump set up all those military field hospitals, and sent ships to stand offshore to treat the ill, while the Deep State governors were claiming the medical system was collapsing, Cuomo, De Blasio et. al. couldn’t let their patients go to those military hospitals because I don’t think they could prevent the military from providing them with appropriate medical treatment, even if that meant HCQ, Ivermectin and anything else the military thought would work."

From my vague recollection... Because hospitals were overflowing with covid patients, the ship was to be used for normal non covid treatments and surgeries. The ship was to remain "sterile". Then it became contaminated and a big stink erupted and covid patients were allowed but few admitted because NYC would lose $$$.

2,341 posted on 09/03/2021 7:28:15 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop ("There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration” - Pompeo)
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To: Wegelhof

I have an anecdote about zinc. I have 50 mg tablets and started taking 1/4 tablet every day in May. I already eat a lot of meat, chicken and fish (apologies for grossing out all the vegetarians here). After about two weeks of the supplements, I developed an itch on my chin that was impossible not to scratch. I tried calamine lotion, various ointments and cortisone cream but nothing would stop the itch. I rubbed or scratched so much that my chin became raw, and after a couple of days, crusty, then flaky ... none of them an attractive look on me.

I stopped taking the zinc and was fine until mid-July when I started the daily zinc again and got the extraordinarily itchy chin again. I can’t prove it was the zinc but it hasn’t recurred since I stopped taking it daily. I now take 1/2 tablet (25 mg) once a week. Maybe one of the supplement experts here has heard about this?


2,342 posted on 09/03/2021 7:40:43 PM PDT by LittleLinda
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To: LittleLinda

👍


2,343 posted on 09/03/2021 7:41:24 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: AZLiberty

😎Ha.


2,344 posted on 09/03/2021 7:42:13 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
1_Rain_Drop wrote:
"When President Trump set up all those military field hospitals, and sent ships to stand offshore to treat the ill, while the Deep State governors were claiming the medical system was collapsing, Cuomo, De Blasio et. al. couldn’t let their patients go to those military hospitals because I don’t think they could prevent the military from providing them with appropriate medical treatment, even if that meant HCQ, Ivermectin and anything else the military thought would work."

From my vague recollection... Because hospitals were overflowing with covid patients, the ship was to be used for normal non covid treatments and surgeries. The ship was to remain "sterile". Then it became contaminated and a big stink erupted and covid patients were allowed but few admitted because NYC would lose $$$.

Maybe I'm too cynical now, but if you had something you thought was the plague, would you patents to NYC hospitals where workers all go home throughout the surrounding region at the end of their shift, spreading contagion? Or would you send Ebola type patients to a naturally isolated ship offshore, where doctors and medical staff will not 'go home' or shopping or ride subways with the public. I think they made an excuse for yet more devious hiding, sneaking, war against the public health. :(

2,345 posted on 09/03/2021 7:55:15 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Wegelhof

50 mg of elemental is at the top of the range. And Med Cram did not advise taking that for long term. So I’d take it 3 or 4 times a week along with some quercetin or green tea pill.

When I anticipate going out among coofy places such as the Dr. office, I’d bump it up to 50mg starting a couple of days before hand and continuing for about 5 - 7 days along with increased Quercetin.

If your multi-vitamin doesn’t have copper in it, eat some dark Chocolate. Zinc supplements deplete copper.

Beans, Nuts, Grains can interfere with use of Zinc, so don’t take the zinc with those - wait till later. I usually take it on an empty stomach.


2,346 posted on 09/03/2021 8:03:36 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: ransomnote

Arthritis Drug ‘Will Save Thousands’ Of Covid-19 Patients After Excellent Trial Results

9/3/2021, 8:05:35 PM · 9 of 9
ransomnote to Fractal Trader
The fact that Trump mentioned may mean it's better than nothing. He also mentioned HCQ, and took it himself, and they won't let us have it. I don't believe he's the problem - it's everyone else I distrust.

Okay so the CDC and Pharma violated my trust again and and again with the entire plandemic (understatment of 2021 - trademark pending) and now they have to prove to me this new 'solution' is better than Ivermectin or HCQ. Those two have an excellent safety record and are saving lives around the world.

Release Ivermectin and HCQ and make baricitnib available. Then, patients can read the historic record for Ivermectin & HCQ (you know, not the new lies the FDA and CDC are telling us about these drugs) and we can compare their records to baricitinib.

If the FDA won't let us have safeter drugs like Ivermectin and HCQ, but will give us something with this inferior safety profile then there has to be a reason WHY, and I don't believe it is good.

They used a fake PCR and have denied dying people all treatments - why should I think they suddenly want to help us?

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Warnings

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Tell your doctor if you are pregnant or breastfeeding.

2,347 posted on 09/03/2021 8:08:15 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Wegelhof

Dr. Z protocol is for when you get COVID. Are you able to take those supplements regularly as a preventative?
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Yes. Dr. Zelenko has preventative as well as treatment protocol. NOTED BELOW:

Prophylaxis is an action taken to prevent or protect against a specified disease. Greek in origin, from the word “phylax”, meaning “to guard” and “watching.”

Low Risk Patients
Young healthy people do not need prophylaxis against Covid 19. In young and healthy people, this infection causes mild cold-like symptoms. It is advantageous for these patients to be exposed to Covid-19, build up their antibodies and have their immune system clear the virus. This will facilitate the development of herd immunity and help prevent future Covid-19 pandemics. However, if these patients desire prophylaxis against Covid-19, then they should take the protocol noted below.

High Risk Patients
Patients are considered high risk if they are over the age of 45, or if they are younger than 45 but they have comorbidities, that is, they have other health conditions that put them at risk. These patients have between a 5 to 10% mortality rate if they are infected with Covid-19. These patients should be strongly encouraged to take prophylaxis against Covid-19 in accordance with the protocol noted below.

Protocol for Low and Moderate Risk Patients:
Elemental Zinc 25mg 1 time a day Vitamin D3 5000iu 1 time a day Vitamin C 1000mg 1 time a day Quercetin 500mg 1 time a day until a safe and efficacious vaccine becomes available If Quercetin is unavailable, then use Epigallocatechin-gallate (EGCG) 400mg 1 time a day.

Protocol for High Risk Patients:
Elemental Zinc 25mg once a day Vitamin D3 5000iu 1 time a day Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) 200mg 1 time a day for 5 days, then 1 time a week until a safe and efficacious vaccine becomes available If HCQ is unavailable, then use the Protocol for Low and Moderate Risk Patients.

https://Www.Ncbi.Nlm.Nih.Gov/Pmc/Articles/PMC7365891/
https://Www.Ncbi.Nlm.Nih.Gov/Pmc/Articles/PMC7318306/
https://Pubs.Acs.Org/Doi/10.1021/Jf5014633
https://Www.Preprints.Org/Manuscript/202007.0025/V1

https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/

Note - EGCG - is a green tea supplement.


2,348 posted on 09/03/2021 8:11:12 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: LSAggie

Thank you LSAggie. You made good points and I appreciate your thoughtful reply.


2,349 posted on 09/03/2021 8:12:05 PM PDT by LittleLinda
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To: goldbux

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2,350 posted on 09/03/2021 11:31:07 PM PDT by goldbux (No sufficiently rich interpreted language can represent its own semantics. -- Alfred Tarski, 1936)
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To: WildHighlander57

Maybe so - she took the test Aug 23, and got her results this week.


2,351 posted on 09/04/2021 4:39:35 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Abortion is just a new spin on human sacrifice by worshipers of self and selfishness. )
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To: peteypupperdoo

“bears repeating... not stands repeating.”


Bears have been repeatedly getting into my garbage cans this summer...and I can’t STAND it.

<;-)


2,352 posted on 09/04/2021 6:21:16 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: LittleLinda

I’m going to take a guess at this. you’re body is likely not absorbing metals very well. Sulfur and methionine digests metal. Garlic is the best source for sulfur. Brazilian nuts for methionine.


2,353 posted on 09/04/2021 2:17:37 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: greeneyes

Thx!


2,354 posted on 09/04/2021 8:50:42 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I do not recognize Biden’s authority.)
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To: Not A Snowbird

👍You betcha.


2,355 posted on 09/04/2021 11:30:33 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: Bigg Red

Thank you. My symptoms are pretty well controlled with meds and HBOT.


2,356 posted on 09/05/2021 8:38:46 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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2,357 posted on 09/06/2021 8:15:53 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“ FTP is standard [whole] database exchange protocol.
World-wide”

Welcome to 1999. FTP is all but gone for important things. SFTP, based on the SSH protocol has replaced it. Are you really still using FTP?


2,358 posted on 09/06/2021 8:00:13 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981, )
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Computer Generated Transcript below. Contains phonetic errors and lacks punctuation.
 
 
Dec 7, 2016
 
Cellular Responses to Graphene Oxide Sheets: Effect of Lateral Dimension and the Oxidative Stress Paradigm
 
Dr. Sandra Vranic,
Nanomedicine Lab,
Faculty of Medical & Human Sciences & National Graphene Institute, University of Manchester, Manchester (UK) 19
 
Graphene in Nanomedicine and Nanotoxicology CLINAM 2016 - day 2 Hall Singapore 28.6.16
 
Introduction by Conference Hostess: ok so I think we need to wait for the
presentation of coaching so we will
start with our second speakers and
Sandra Vranic from the University of
Manchester, The National
graphene Institute, telling us about how
the lateral dimensions of graphene can
affect their oxidative stress
 
Sandra Vranic: Thank you very much for this
introduction
I would also like to thank
to the organizers for giving me the
opportunity to present my work so today
I will talk about cellular responses to
graphene oxide especially about the
effect of lateral dimensions and the
induction of intracellular oxidative
stress so to begin with few words about
graphene and graphene-based materials so
graphene has been isolated and
characterized by two scientists at the
University of Manchester back in 2004 so
for this discovery later on they
received Nobel Prize and since the
isolation and characterization of this
material it has been studied a lot and
many exciting applications have been
foreseen so graphene oxide belongs to
the group of graphene related materials
and it has oxygen-containing functional
groups on the surface so these
functional groups are actually giving
many also potential potentially exciting
applications to this material this is a
large surface for functionalization very
good dispersibility in aqueous solutions
and also potential for different
covalent functionalization that cannot
be interesting for biomedical
applications however the outcome of the
exposure in vitro and in vivo to this
material is unknown so why are we
interested in this first because there
can be potential adverse health effects
that we want to avoid and secondly it is
very important to understand aspects of
interactions of this material with the
cells in order to be able to exploit to
the maximum the potential that these
material kids so based on 30 previous
years of the research on nanoparticles
and also on carbon nanotubes and the
other nanomaterials there is a opinion
that actually the underlying mechanism
of the cellular response to this
material is based on oxidative stress
paradism the intracellular levels of the
duros that are induced after treatment
with the sun'll materials is increasing
and cells can actually
activate antioxidant defense in order to
bring these levels of rust to normal
values however if this is not the case
the levels of rust will continue to
increase and this can lead to activation
of inflammatory pathways or in the end
to cytotoxicity so as graphene oxide and
graphene is new material it is important
to try to correlate with the studies
that exist on nanoparticles and other
nanomaterials so our aim was actually to
determine physical chemical properties
of this material that is leading to
potential molecular and or cellular
injury so our first team was actually to
correlate the cellular responses to the
lateral dimensions of the Geo so with
this purpose we synthesized two types of
the Geo large with lateral dimensions
between five and 15 micrometers and
small with lateral dimensions below 200
nanometers furthermore we also were
interested in the effect of proteins
that can adsorb on the surface of these
sheets especially this is important in
in vitro conditions where cells are
actually cultivated in the presence of
serum so we wanted to see the difference
in the cellular response if the cells
were treated with the material
dispersing the presence or absence of
serum so with this purpose we had two
experimental designs in first of them
cells were treated with the material
dispersed in the cell culture medium in
the presence of serum for 24 hours and
in the second design we treated the
cells with the material dispersed only
in the cell culture medium for four
hours and we consider that during this
first for our cells have time to
interact with the material and the
downstream effects will already take
place so considering the endpoints we
were interested to study cytotoxicity
using several different assays oxidative
stress and activation of genes involved
in pro inflammatory response so to begin
with I will first show the results of
the toxicity study involving large and
small geo in the absence of serum so
first we performed up to
microscopy observations to have an first
idea of how the cells actually respond
to the treatment with this material and
what we could see is that first there is
a dose-dependent interaction of the
cells with the material and they
aggregate on top of the cells after 24
hours in a dose-dependent way however we
could not speculate about the optic of
this material based only on the optical
microscopy but there is a suggestion
that that the material actually is
interacting what was remarkable is
actually the treatment with the large
deal in the absence of serum where we
could see that already after the
treatment with low doses of the material
cells seem to detach and to be removed
from the support which could be
indication of the toxicity of the
material so in order to confirm this we
perform the cell count using slip on
blue and indeed we saw that after
treatment with the highest concentration
of the material was so significant
decrease in the cell number compared to
the untreated all the saturated with a
small geo after that we focused on the
cells that remained on the layer so not
the ones that were detached and for this
we use the Nexus 5 rupee de mayo de sa
which also showed slight but significant
decrease in a dose-dependent way in cell
viability after treatment with both
types of the material this was
furthermore confirmed using modified ldh
sa also showing those dependent slight
but still significant decrease so then
if we want to compare large versus small
geo in terms of of cytotoxicity we could
see firstly from this images that
actually there is higher toxic effect of
the large you're comparing to the small
one then we perform the same experiments
with this material in the presence of
serum from the beginning of incubation
and here we could not actually see the
same response especially for the large
deal in the presence of serum and this
was furthermore documented with the
subsequent experiment so cell count
didn't reveal any significant difference
between the treatments and here for
example performing an action 5 propidium
iodide we could see the dose-dependent
creasing percentage of a life cells only
after treatment with the Largey or
however after treatment with the small
material in the presence of steel it was
completely non-toxic for the cells this
was also confirmed with modified LD HSE
so afterwards we wanted to see how does
this actually fit with oxidative stress
pardon so is there increase in
intracellular ros production and indeed
so we performed to assess in order to
because it is very well known that after
performing experiments and using
different assets many interferences can
occur so for this reason we confronted a
few different test is to see if there
will be the same trend so first of all
we did DC FDA oxidation which is a dye
that actually enters freely the cell but
after being oxidized in the presence of
material it becomes green what we saw in
this optical microscopy images and also
we measured this fluorescence using
microplate reader then we used another
probe and another approach so it is it
was flow cytometry approach to to
confirm and see if we will see the same
trend and the principle is the same so
die enters the cells freely through
plasma membrane but then becomes
oxidated inside the cell if there is
increased dross and it's non
cell-permeable however the color is
different so using flow cytometry again
we saw the same trend that there is
increase in intracellular ros production
especially after treatment with small
and large in the absence of serum and so
if we compare the enlarge seems to
induce more intracellular as comparing
to the small and one more thing that was
also remarkable from this result is that
presence of serum seems to decrease the
intracellular loss production so the
third like tier 3 flow of the the
cellular response to the material goes
to through activation of
pro-inflammatory response and activation
of the genes that are involved in this
so as we perform 24 hours of treatment
we were interested in genes that are
involved in the expression of
a cute face of the pro inflammatory
response so we measured the activation
of genes that are for interleukin 6 1
beta and interleukin-8 and so what we
saw is that actually here there is there
was overall trend for all the cytokines
we did also tnf-alpha in parallel but I
didn't show it here so we saw that there
is a induction of the pro-inflammatory
response observed after treatment only
with the large geo in the absence of
serum for all the other conditions of
treatment there was no significant
increase so how does this fit actually
with oxy distress parenting what that
I've showed in the beginning so if we if
we classify and take a look at this
different so we had these two types of
the material and two conditions of
treatment for the small geo that was
used and dispersed in the presence of
serum we so very slight increase in
intracellular us that didn't furthermore
lead to inflammation response and
subsequent cytotoxicity however the
other extreme condition was the large
geo or in the absence of serum that had
very high increase in intracellular ros
leading to activation of pro
inflammatory response and subsequently
to through the cellular death so this is
the first big message that we got from
the study that we performed and second
one was that actually the absence of
serum is significantly having an impact
on the cellular responses to this
material so in the end I would like to
thank to the colleagues that are working
in the lab with me dr. Nelson of all
this and Mauricio Boozer and also I
would like to thank to dr. Cyril boosie
and professor kaskus trellis for
supervising thank you very much for your
attention
 
Audience member: Thank you. It just a technical question.
did I understand correctly when you did
the annex in five assay for live or dead
cells apoptotic cells did you look only
at the attached cells not at the
detached cells?
 
Sandra Vranic: Yes.
 
Audience member: may be the reason for
asking is that when cells undergo
apoptosis they detach so aren't you
missing an apoptotic population
potentially then
 
Sandra Vranic: okay so there are two
reasons why we did this experiment in
this way but so first is that actually
the material that remains in the
supernatant and that you cannot actually
remove so you collect supernatant but at
the same time with yourselves you also
have the material which we saw that can
quench the fluorescence from propidium
iodide so I in the beginning I did this
set up collecting supernatant collecting
the layer and then I saw that actually
does not reflect what we see using
optical microscopy so then I separated
and I saw doing cell count which is
complementary to the experiment with the
propidium iodide in the next in five so
I did analyze cells from the
supernatant for propidium iodide and an
axe in five and I have the percentage of
dead cells with different cell types
which shows that there is fifty percent
of dead cells but this result is only
indicative because actually we know that
the material did quench the fluorescence
of the next in five
so there is
indication but actually I cannot say the
percentage like accurate percentage of
the cell death
 
Audience Member: sure no I understand that
there may be interferences with the
essay but I think then you you may still
want to consider an alternative method
where you have less interference but
where you take into account both
detached and and non detach cells
I if I
may follow up with another question I
mean apoptosis is not necessarily the
only type of cell death and
our papers in the literature suggesting
that there is regulated necrosis or
necroptosis following exposure to
graphene oxide so you could test for
this if you add apoptosis inhibitors or
necroptosis inhibitors and then just
measure cell death this could give you
an indication of the mode of cell deaths
have you consider this?
 
Sandra Vranic: well yes maybe
for the future study we will take this
into consideration
 
Melanie Cookie: hello my name is
Melanie cookie and I would like to ask
you what is a modified ldh essay is it
an absorbent space or is aggressive one
is it for full lysis assay?
 
Sandra Vranic: okay so I
have the this is the method that has
been developed in the in the lab before
I joined so this is also especially to
to avoid interference with the material
okay
so this is the original one that
has been used with non carbon-based
materials and it works fine but when it
comes to the carbon-based materials such
as carbon nanotubes and then we also can
say the same for graphene there some
interferences were observed so it's
actually indirect in this direct method
you are measuring what the cells that
are dead actually released in the
supernatant
however in the modified one
you remove the supernatant and then you
have the cells that are on the support
that remained on the support then you
lyse these cells and actually inverse so
you measure the cells that remains as
alive and with indirect to measure that
sells but this is also because there is
this step of centrifugation in the
so yeah so there is a step of the
centrifugation when you lyse the cells
and this is because you want to
obviously to remove the material from
the supernatant wash and lyse the
cells and be sure that actually you
excluded your material from the
measurement
 
Melanie Cookie: ok.thank we're talking about
the same I just want to know if it's
absorbing space the essence one because
the fluorescence one is highly capable
for the quenching
 
Sandra Vranic: so yeah but this is
with this purpose so to eliminate the
material in order to remove the
quenching of the that comes from the
material becomes
 
Conference Hostess: more questions?
 
Audience member: I have
one so you showed us at the end that the
large sheets are bad yeah so they're
about 1 micrometer
 
Sandra Vranic: so there between five
and 15 originally but in the cell
culture medium this is how they look
like so this is in the cell culture
medium is actually much more so while we
didn't really measure that this until
the distribution of the size in the cell
culture medium but already from the
picture we see that only in the case of
small do in the presence of serum it
looks homogeneous well in all other
conditions we see the especially without
serum we see these clumps of the
material indicating that the size is
actually much bigger
 
Audience member: so your cells are
not fat aesthetics you have a epithelial
cells so do you have any explanation why
actually the large and one larger ones
could be more toxic despite having less
than bincy to enter into the cells
 
Sandra Vranic: yes
so we there are studies that show that
colosseo is actually but in the
macrophages and it goes through the
physical contact with tlr receptors that
are further done with the stream effect
of the seller that so beast officials
are having this dlr but we haven't
explored what is actually going on so is
it this physical physical contact with
this receptor or is it maybe the stars
are covered
fully with the material and then this is
what induces them to for the toxicity so
we don't know but we see that it's the
the size-dependent definitely okay this
effect so
 
Conference Hostess: one more question yeah
 
Audience member: why are
you adding under Fe essence or less
toxic and making a corona and the worse
mechanisms
 
Sandra Vranic: yeah so there are three
possibilities that serum can actually
have so first it can be corona effects
as you said with the hiding this surface
of the material and then having
influence on surface reactivity of the
material which like second explanation
but third is also modulating optic and
interactions with the cells so so for
future experiments will show does it
actually have impact on the uptake or
does it have influenced only from this
surface reactivity it can be also
extracellular so it doesn't have to go
inside the cell but we have so far we
haven't we did some studies for the
uptake but it is still ongoing so it can
be different reasons
 
Conference Hostess: ok so if no more
questions we thank sandra

2,359 posted on 09/12/2021 4:46:23 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Computer Generated Transcript below. Contains phonetic errors and lacks punctuation. 

First, the link to the 17 minute  Youtube video:

Graphene Oxide Interactions with Innate Immune Cells... - YouTube

 

Dec 7, 2016

Begin transcript

I'm Fadeel from Stockholm Sweden and
the Karolinska Institute and I see also
from Pittsburgh so you are coming from
two places at the same time is our last
speaker on graphene oxide interactions
please thank you very much and I want to
thank the organizers for inviting me I'm
very happy to be in this session I think
the talk that I'm that I planned to give
today could also probably have been a
good fit for the graphene session
earlier today but nevertheless I'm going
to focus on graphene oxide and
interactions with primary human innate
immune cells specifically neutrophils
and macrophages and the work that I'm
presenting is has been performed in the
in the frame of the flagship project
graphene which is a large European
project a 10-year effort and within the
flagship project there is a work package
consisting of some one dozen groups or
so dealing with health and environmental
safety of graphene-based materials now
at the very beginning of the flagship
project we published this paper in
argumentation Lee where we try to
develop a classification scheme for
graphene-based materials in order also
to guide our toxicological studies and
to allow us to do those studies in a
more systematic manner and and briefly
what we are looking at our three
parameters the number of layers and as
well as the average lateral dimensions
of the of the materials from nano 2
micron size and and the third parameter
is the carbon dioxide oxygen ratio what
I'm going to discuss today are
essentially graphene oxide of small or
large lateral dimensions so we're going
to compare these two I want to give just
a brief background based on the pub the
published data these are not our studies
is our studies available in the
literature namely the following two
studies which are presented here
suggesting that graphene oxide triggers
cell deaths in macrophages and the
suggestion from this study so let me go
back from the study of the references at
the top of the slide is that graphene
oxide triggers a tnf-alpha secretion
which leads to an autocrine necrotic
that means regulated necrotic cell death
there is a second study also shown in
this slide also published in a season a
know where the lateral dimensions of
graphene oxide were suggested to be
important for this tnf-alpha production
and other pro inflammatory effects and
again in both studies that there is a
suggestion that tlr4 is involved and
also here because this is a tlr4
inhibitor which in this study prevented
or also press the TNF alpha secretion
now what I'm going to show you today our
is our data which suggests that none of
this is true and and I want to provide
maybe a partial explanation also for
this of course taking all to count at
different cell models maybe have been
used different varieties of graphene
oxide may have been used but one key
element is of course and the toxin
contamination and we heard
very nice presentation of this topic
earlier in this session what we have
done in the flagship project is to
evaluate graphene oxide samples for
endotoxin just to make a long story
short we found that the conventional
land test cryogenic classes and so forth
are not applicable to graphene oxide
that is we do see quite some significant
interference with the Lala say we then
developed a let's say variation on the
macrophage activation test which we call
the TNF alpha expression test basically
using primary human macrophages we
incubate these with the graphene based
materials with or without polymyxin b
which is an LPS inhibitor and now if you
see tnf-alpha secretion and if this is
suppressed by polymyxin b we can then
conclude that this is a result of
endotoxin contamination if it's not
suppressed by polymyxin b it's likely to
be an intrinsic effect on for the
material and together with the lab of
course i sposta ellis also partners in
the flagship we also developed
guidelines for for let's say steroid
synthesis of graphene oxide but
essentially we all know that endotoxin
is present everywhere so it's important
to use enroute oxen free water to use
sterilized glassware and so on now using
this endotoxin free graphene oxide we
interacted the materials with primary
human monocyte-derived macrophages and
contrary to some studies in the
literature we don't see a masking effect
we don't see graphene oxide aligning
with a plasma membrane what we do see is
both for the small graphene oxide to the
left and the large graphene oxide flakes
we see very nice is cellular
internalization and you may appreciate
that there are packages of graphene
oxide like accordions compressed into
into vesicles within the cell and also
this is true for the large graphene
oxide flakes so we see internalization
we don't see any signs of toxicity and
this is up to 100 microgram per ml and
neither by ultra structural features by
electron microscopy or by a la mer bleue
SI for instance
so large and small graphene oxide flags
in this cell model are both non-toxic we
then did the multiplexer a to profile
the cytokine and chemokine secretion we
we used a commercially available panel
of some 26 or 27 cytokines and
chemokines i focus here on one important
example namely tnf-alpha and basically
as you can see we don't see tnf-alpha
production using endotoxin free graphene
oxide either small flakes or large
flakes our positive control is LPS and I
give you one more example we did the
same experiment the cytokine profiling
in primary human macrophages with or
without LPS priming so that means we
pretty mu late the cells without PS to
have a more activated phenotype what and
we then found that certain cytokines are
in fact induced and here we are looking
at il-1beta again LPS is our positive
control what we now say is that in in
the presence of LPS priming we save
quite a pronounced il-1beta secretion
both for the large flakes and the small
flakes but note that there is no size
difference both large and small flakes
trigger I want data to a comparable
degree I want beta is normally secretion
is normally a result of inflammation
activation so switching off from primary
cells we use thp-1 cells that were
genetically deficient for various
components of the note 3 inflammasome
and the results are shown here so the
bottom line is that in standard let's
say standard thp-1 cells both LPS and
small and large graphene oxide flakes
triggered I want beta but it is
completely abrogated in cell lines that
don't express ASC which is a one of the
components of the inflammasome or nap 3
itself or cast base 1 which is of course
the enzyme which clips provide 1 beta to
produce mature il-1beta again in this
cell model we also see no difference
between the small and
graphene oxide flakes so the to
summarize this first part of my
presentation we do not see any
cytotoxicity for graphene oxide in
primary human monocyte-derived
macrophages neither for small or large
graphene oxide design nano scale is our
micron scale in that robe size again
using LPS free graphene oxide we don't
sit in a fan for production which is
contrary to the published literature but
we do see in LPS primed macrophages that
there is f i1 beta secretion through the
canonical 93 inflammasome pathway
however this affects our size
independent again in contrast to several
other studies in the literature but an
important note here a non-trivial issue
is that we have to work with endotoxin
free materials or we need to control for
endotoxin if we are going to use immune
competent cells such as macrophages and
this is perhaps even more true for
neutrophils and I will discuss this in
the remaining few minutes of my
presentation neutral fields as you all
know our profession specialized and
professional sales opium in a tenure
system specialized in killing bacteria
and fungi and they can do so essentially
through two different pathways either
intracellularly or extracellularly so
neutrophils can internalize microbes
which are then proteolytically or
oxidatively destroyed within the
phagosomes inside the neutral field
alternatively neutrophils can produce
so-called neutrophil extracellular traps
or nests now nets are essentially a
network of nuclear chromatin which is
expelled from the neutral field and and
this nuclear chromatin network is
studied with granular proteins including
neutrophil elastase myeloperoxidase etc
also histones are present and and in
these extracellular traps the the
microbes are trapped and destroyed and
we have shown here that that we can
detect neutrophil extracellular traps by
standing for extracellular neutrophil
elastase
and shown in blue or the cell nuclei
 
so
we asked the question whether graphene
oxide is sensed in a manner of speaking
by neutrophils as as microbes in fact
what we we have found is that graphene
oxide triggers neutrophil extracellular
traps in a size dependent manner we use
two different essays to measure nets to
quantify Nets the neutrophil
extracellular traps either by measuring
extracellular DNA or exercise real
estate activity and and in white are the
small flakes in black or the large lakes
at so there's a dose-dependent and
size-dependent induction of nets this by
the way are the size distribution data
for the small flakes which are some 80
to 100 nanometers in diameter and the
large flakes some eight to ten microns
in diameter we also have began some
investigations to look at the mechanism
of net induction and we ask the question
is the nadph oxidase important it's well
known for for 4pm a for instance which
is commonly used to trigger nets that is
acts by activation of the nadph oxidase
if we add DPI which is an nadph oxidase
inhibitor we can reduce the net the
amount of nets now what we find is that
for the large graphene oxide flakes that
nadph oxidase inhibitor has no effect
whereas for the small graphene oxide
flakes there is an inhibition so there
is a difference between large and small
flakes just for comparison it may be
hard to discern here but these are
electron microscopy images or
neutrophils which have internalized
small graphene oxide flakes encircled
here whereas if in the case of
neutrophils we actually don't see much
internalization instead we see that
graphene oxide alliance with the plasma
membrane and even with some imagination
you might say that there is a stripping
of the membrane
and the graphene oxide seems to strip
off the plasma membrane from the cells
so they the behavior here is quite
different and we may account for these
differences but we are we are continuing
to investigate this mechanism this is
Anna scanning electron microscopy images
to show you what the Nets actually
looked like this is a neutrophil which
has produced so-called neutral excel the
traps you may see the chromatin network
here and this is a graphene oxide flake
a large flake which has triggered the
net induction and after which the
graphene oxide itself is trapped in the
nets now as I told you before nets
contain granule proteins including
myeloperoxidase so we ask the question
can the nets actually degrade graphene
oxide extracellularly and to do this we
triggered neutrophils with PMA which
allows us to trigger net formation we
then purify the Nets from the cell so we
have purified nets we incubate this with
graphene oxide and in fact using raman
spectroscopy we can look at this
characteristic Raman spectra and we do
see a time-dependent oxidation which is
an indication of degradation of these
materials in purified net so this is acellular
degradation of graphene oxide
with time and we know that it's
myeloperoxidase dependent because in the
presence of the MPO inhibitor there is
no oxidative damage finally we also
asked whether activated neutrophils
which are activated with the agonist
shown here can also degrade graphene
oxide so activated neutrophils will
release myeloperoxidase and and we then
ask the question will this degrade
graphene oxide again using raman
spectroscopy we see both for small
flakes and for large graphene oxide
flakes at the bottom here a
time-dependent degradation and perhaps
not surprisingly it's more efficient or
more rapid i should say for the small
graphene oxide flakes so this is the
first demonstration of neutrophil
mediated degradation of graphene oxide
to summarize then in contrast to
macrophages where we did not see
size-dependent effects and actually no
toxicity I
when for neutrophils we do see the
graphene oxide triggers nets in primary
human neutrophils this is size-dependent
and we also see that these myths which
contain myeloperoxidase can actually
digest or biodegrade graphene oxide
moreover as I showed in the in the last
slide or the previous slide that would
be activated neutrophils can also digest
graphene oxide and this is also an
extracellular event due to the release
of myeloperoxidase so overall I mean our
innate immune system has evolved to
protect us from foreign intrusion
microbes fungi etc based on this studies
and I apologize for going so quickly
through this this data based on these
studies we may speculate that the immune
system can also sense two-dimensional
objects which i think is rather
fascinating and actually use similar
very similar mechanisms in this case net
production and digestion to destroy as
it were these materials finally let me
acknowledge the people who did the work
the people in my lab in particular sort
of mukerji shown here who really has
been responsible for all the graphene
oxide based work in our lab other
collaborators in Stockholm I also want
to highlight Kostas Costa yellows and
his postdoc nerves was on who provided
us with the endotoxin free graphene
oxide and our collaborators here in
Switzerland at instant garland who were
involved in the endotoxin studies and
the work was funded by the EU graphene
flagship project thank you very much
 
Conference Host: Questions?
how are we are at the end a little bit
over time so there is no question then
thank you very much bank okay and I will
diverse to marina to close the session
 
Marina: thank you very much for everybody who
stayed here till the end of this session
I think we have very interesting and
stimulating discussion i suggest to
continue this discussion but we now have
to stop for break before the next
sessions thank you

ransomnote: 

Here are a few intriguing excerpts which may help  unify the observations and expertise of  Dr. Mikovits, Dr. McCullough and those saying that there is graphene oxide in 'vaccine' vials and blood samples.

Excerpt #1 (e.g., Neutrophils per Dr. Yeadon, Dr McCullough)

we asked the question whether graphene
oxide is sensed in a manner of speaking
by neutrophils as as microbes in fact
what we we have found is that graphene
oxide triggers neutrophil extracellular
traps in a size dependent manner
 
Excerpt #2 (e.g., doctors observing lacerations, clotting, damage to blood cells ) 
 
alliance with the plasma
membrane and even with some imagination
you might say that there is a stripping
of the membrane
and the graphene oxide seems to strip
off the plasma membrane from the cells
so they the behavior here is quite
different

Excerpt #3 (e.g., degradation of graphene oxide by immune system, might be how people 'recover' with their own immunity, and with treatments per McCullough, Zelenko and others )

2,360 posted on 09/12/2021 5:28:16 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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