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The Reasons Why Lake Monsters are Not Plesiosaurs and Never Will Be
Mysterious Universe ^ | August 22, 2021 | nick Redfern

Posted on 08/22/2021 11:40:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin

First, there’s the extremely significant fact that the plesiosaur surfaced around 250 million years ago and died out around 66/65 million years ago. Plesiosaurs, the fossil record has conclusively shown, lived in saltwater environments: our planet’s oceans. Loch Ness, however, is a freshwater loch. Yes, there is evidence of the occasional plesiosaur in a freshwater environment all those millions of years ago, but the bulk of the cases are not suggestive of entire colonies of the beasts inhabiting freshwater bodies. It’s far more likely and plausible that they wandered into them and died there. And, yes, there are both a freshwater crocodile and a saltwater crocodile. But, the comparison is meaningless without evidence that plesiosaurs were 100 percent comfortable in both freshwater and saltwater.

[T]there is not a single bit of evidence to suggest plesiosaurs (anywhere on the planet) survived beyond 60-plus million years ago. Yes, we have fossilized examples of plesiosaurs. But, no, they don’t date from – for example, and hypothetically – 20 million years ago, or even 5 or 1 million years ago. They all date from the precise period in which science tells us they came to an end. And even if plesiosaurs did survive – against just about all the odds conceivable – into the modern era, they could not have made their way into Loch Ness until around the end of the last Ice Age. For one simple reason: Loch Ness didn’t exist until then.... So, if they didn’t enter the Loch until approximately 10,000 years ago, up until that point they must have lived in the ocean waters. But, then there’s the problem of why we haven’t found any ocean-based remains of plesiosaurs dating back – for example – 13,000 or 20,000 years.

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KEYWORDS: champ; lakemonsters; lochness; nessie; nickredfern; plesiosaurs
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1 posted on 08/22/2021 11:40:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks to Nick Redfern for clearing that up. We’ve all been worried.


2 posted on 08/22/2021 11:47:18 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Be kind to each other, unless the other guy is a dumbass.)
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To: BenLurkin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadborosaurus


3 posted on 08/22/2021 11:51:37 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: BenLurkin
More research is needed.

B0121-DA0-EB5-A-4-EED-9-E7-B-8663-EF864110

4 posted on 08/22/2021 11:55:24 AM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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To: BenLurkin

Once again a scientist clears up a mystery, based on his complete and comprehensive knowledge of every fossil everywhere for the past 1.500 million years, to prove that science knows everything and its just a matter of filling in some niggly details. All hail!


5 posted on 08/22/2021 11:56:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin

I believe that most of the cryptids people are seeing lean more to the ethereal end of existence than flesh-and-blood.


6 posted on 08/22/2021 12:00:00 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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“I believe that most of the cryptids people are seeing lean more to the ethereal end of existence than flesh-and-blood.”

In the biochemistry of the brain.


7 posted on 08/22/2021 12:02:19 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Never having seen one myself, I cannot say for certain.

But there seem to be a lot of witnesses. And occasional tracks.


8 posted on 08/22/2021 12:11:25 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: PIF

Salt Water Crocodile

Fresh water crocodile

It would seem the salt water plesiosaurs all died out and that only a small group of the Fresh water species survive

9 posted on 08/22/2021 12:11:40 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: BenLurkin

They also said the Coelacanth became extinct at the end of the Cretaceous Period. They didn’t.


10 posted on 08/22/2021 12:12:08 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: BenLurkin

Pelosisaurs


11 posted on 08/22/2021 12:12:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (President Trump: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works.")
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them ones we got upn here mountains is kinda shiny black oval shaped flat head with a long neck and maybe 2 humps, they ain`t scared of humans no way... maybe 30 feet long, theys love to sit at stream mouths entrances to them lakes and just gobble trout and fresh water salmon for dinner coz them lake monsters come out when the sun is goin down coz r too hot earlier..n wintertime they just break thru the new ice to give usn`s a show...in summertime they is chasing them schools of sheepshaed coz you kin see them fish jumping like crazy to git away from them lake monsters for lunchtime,,...


12 posted on 08/22/2021 12:13:10 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect?? It was NYC.)
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Modern sharks go upstream in the Mississippi all the time, Bull sharks in particular. They are a ‘salt water’ fish. And if we want to play the evolution game, nothing says that a plesiosaur type dino couldn’t have adapted to fresh water.


13 posted on 08/22/2021 12:17:41 PM PDT by Godzilla (Never give up, never surrender . . . . . .)
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To: Artemis Webb
No opinion as to species, but did you know these two are an item these days. How sweet!


14 posted on 08/22/2021 12:18:20 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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15 posted on 08/22/2021 12:19:33 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (While the foundations are being destroyed, what are the righteous doing?)
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To: BenLurkin

I have one in my front yard, the kids passing by love it and some adults do too. They take pictures of their kids pointing at it. It’s concrete and has lasted for quite a few years.


16 posted on 08/22/2021 12:19:40 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Salman

Bigfoot riding Nessie

Still more believable than Joe Biden winning in 2020.


17 posted on 08/22/2021 12:19:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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I’ve lost so much sleep over this.


18 posted on 08/22/2021 12:21:04 PM PDT by Trillian
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” ‘bout tree fiddy...”


19 posted on 08/22/2021 12:23:37 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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If the author makes his money writing about cryptids, throwing out some rational thought is dangerous work...

If the plesiosaur survived beyond 65 million years ago, why is the evidence to support such a scenario 100 percent absent? Because there is no evidence, that’s why.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. As much as he tries to present his reasoning as scientifically based and I agree with his overall conclusion, that's not a scientific approach.

How about this as proof: the plesiosaur evidence has all either been revealed as fake or has a plausible alternative explanation. Also reptiles, assuming a plesiosaur is a reptile, are generally cold blooded. Scotland is not known for warm weather or large reptiles, and large reptiles even in warm climates sun themselves frequently to keep up body heat. What's the largest naturally occurring reptile at that latitude?

20 posted on 08/22/2021 12:30:36 PM PDT by jz638
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