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THE GREAT REBELLION: Rumored Bad Faith of England, France and Spain; An Intention to Recognize the Southern Confederacy; IMPORTANT FROM MISSOURI (8/22/1861)
New York Times archives – Times Machine ^ | 8/22/1861

Posted on 08/22/2021 7:28:26 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

WASHINGTON, Wednesday, Aug. 21.

The Star, of this city, says it has positive in formation that BEAUREGARD withdrew his forces last night to a mile in the rear of Fairfax Court-house, owing, as the Star alleges, to a fright caused by a supposed advance of the Union troops.

The Department has accepted a regiment of mounted rangers, to be raised in Colorado Territory, which has been tendered by Judge PETTIS, of that Territory.

CHAS. B. SHAW, of Virginia, was to-day appointed a clerk in the Treasury Department, in place of J.R. YOUNG, of Mississippi, who was granted all future time in which to determine if he would take the oath of allegiance.

The front of the Treasury Buildings being finished, the offices of the Secretary and his Assistant will be moved at once to the new rooms. The rooms now occupied by the Secretary and his staff will be appropriated to the Second Auditor, who is now in the Winder Building.

The President will hot in any way change the character of the relations of the Government to the ports of the rebel States. The blockade will be enforced and rendered effective, to the full extent that England or any other European Power can demand or expect. The project of closing up the smaller ports and inlets, by sinking old vessels loaded with stone, is now being executed, a number of hulks having been purchased in Baltimore for that purpose, and tug boats employed to take them to the several localities where they are needed.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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1 posted on 08/22/2021 7:28:26 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 08/22/2021 7:29:39 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...

The Great Rebellion: Rumored Bad Faith of England, France and Spain – 2-3
The War in Missouri – 3
The Battle at Wilson’s Creek: Official Report-Names of the Killed and Wounded – 3-5
From New-Mexico: More Trouble with the Navajoes-The Secession Movement – 5
The Horse Market – 5
Editorial: Our Exaggerations of the Strength of the Rebels – 5-6
The People and the Press – 6
Movements of Privateers: Operations of the Pirates in the West Indies - 6
Who is Hit? – 6


3 posted on 08/22/2021 7:30:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The District of Columbia, exporting horrific, unnecessary wars for over 160 years, and counting.


4 posted on 08/22/2021 7:51:12 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: BrexitBen
The District of Columbia, exporting horrific, unnecessary wars for over 160 years, and counting.

The more things change, the more they remain the same

5 posted on 08/22/2021 8:04:15 AM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The Department has accepted a regiment of mounted rangers, to be raised in Colorado Territory. .................. Did they serve fighting the Confederates or to fight Black Kettle? The famous Col. Covington 1862 expedition at Sand Creek Reservation comes to mind.


6 posted on 08/22/2021 8:12:08 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (In politicians we get what we deserve, usually the best that money can buy, guaranteed.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I forwarded your question to my Facebook & Twitter users, which includes some experts. I’ll let you know if we get any responses.


7 posted on 08/22/2021 8:34:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Bearshouse

Just look at the disaster in Afghanistan.

Endless wars, and empire building, are conceived by middle aged men, using brave young men as chessboard pieces, and cannon fodder.


8 posted on 08/22/2021 8:46:14 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: BrexitBen; Bearshouse; Homer_J_Simpson
BrexitBen: "The District of Columbia, exporting horrific, unnecessary wars for over 160 years, and counting."

Well, not so far -- as of "today" the Civil War is being fought more in Union states & territories than in the Confederacy.
More Confederate soldiers have died fighting in the Union than in the Confederacy.

So far I count 35 engagements, 13 in two Confederate states (SC & VA), plus 22 in four Union states/territories (MO, MD, WVA, NM).
These resulted in over 10,000 total casualties (1,600+ killed), about 60% in the Union, 40% in the Confederacy.

So who exactly is exporting what to whom?

DateEngagementMilitary UnitsLossesVictor
April 12-14Fort Sumter, SCConfederate artillery (Beauregard), Union garrison (Anderson)NoneCSA
April 15Evacuation of Fort Sumter, SCUnion garrisonTwo Union soldiers killed, four wounded by accidental explosionN.A.
April 19Baltimore Riots, MDMA 6th, PA 26th vs secessionist crowd4 Union soldiers killed, 12 civilians killed, hundreds woundedUSA
May 10St. Louis Riots, MOUnion forces vs secessionist crowd4 Union soldiers killed, 3 prisoners, 28 civilians killedUSA
May 18-19Sewell's Point, VAUnion naval squadron vs Confederate shore artillery10 totalinconclusive
May 29- June 1Aquila Creek, VAUnion naval squadron vs Confederate shore artillery10 totalinconclusive
June 1Fairfax Court House, VAdetachments from CSA & USA armies8 on each side, 1 each killedinconclusive
June 3Philippi, WVAUnion Dept of Ohio (McClellan) -3,000, CSA infantry (Porterfield) -800Union 4, CSA 26 (killed or wounded)USA
June 10Big Bethel, VAUnion (Butler) -3,500, CSA (Magruder) -1,400Union 71-total (18-killed); CSA: 10-total (1-killed)CSA
June 15Hooe's Ferry (near Mathias Point) VAUnion schooner Christina Keen; CSA Farmer's Fork Graysnone -- Christina Keen captured and burnedCSA
June 17Vienna, VADetachments from both Union & CSA armiesUnion: 12-total (8 killed); CSA: none reportedCSA
June 17Boonville, MOUnion Western Dept (Lyon) -1,700 vs. MO State Guard (Marmaduke) ~1,500Union: 12-total (5-killed); MO Guard 22-total (5-killed)USA
June 18Camp Cole, MOUnion Home Guards (~500) vs. Confederate State Guards (~350)Union: 120-total (35 killed, 60 wounded 25 captured); CSA: 32-total ( 7-K, 25-W)CSA
June 27Matthias' Point, VAUnion gunboats ~50 vs. Confed garrison ~500Union: 1-killed, 4-wounded; CSA noneCSA
July 2Hoke's Run, WVAUnion Army of the Shenandoah (2 brigades, Patterson) -8,000 vs. Confederate Army of the Shenandoah (1 brigade, Stonewall Jackson) - 4,000 Union: 70-total (3-killed); CSA 23-total ( 9-killed)USA
July 5Carthage, MOUnion Department of the West (Sigel) -- 1,000 vs. Confederate Missouri State Guard (Jackson) -- 4,000Union: 44-total; CSA 200-totalCSA
July 5Neosho, MOUnion 3rd Missouri vs. Confederate cavalryUnion: 137-total; CSA zero totalCSA
July 8Laurel Hill, WVAUnion Dept of Ohio vs. Confederate Army of the NorthwestUnion: 8-total; CSA unknownUSA
July 11Rich Mountain, WVAUnion Department of the Ohio (McClellan & Rosecrans) -7,000 vs. Confederate Army (Pegram & Garnett) -1,300Union: 46-total; CSA 300-totalUSA
July 12Barboursville, WVAUnion 2nd Kentucky vs. Confederate rangers & localsUnion: 16-total; CSA 1-totalUSA
July 13Corrick's Ford, WVAUnion Department of the Ohio (McClellan & Rosecrans) -20,000 vs. Confederate Army (Garnett) -4,500Union: 53-total; CSA 620-total CSA Gen. Garnett killedUSA
July 17Scary Creek, WVAUnion Department of the Ohio (Cox) -1,000 vs. Confederate Army of the Kanawha (Wise & George S. Patton) -800Union: 51-total; CSA 10-total including Patton woundedCSA
July 18Blackburn's Ford, VA (pre-Manassas)Union Department of NE Virginia (McDowell, Richardson) -3,000 vs. Confederate Army of VA (Beauregard, Longstreet) -5,100Union: 83-total; CSA 70-total CSA
July 21Bull Run/Manassas, VAUnion Department of NE Virginia (McDowell, Patterson) -54,000 (18,000 engaged) vs. Confederate Army of VA (Beauregard, Longstreet) -34,000 (18,000 engaged)Union: 2,708-total (481-killed); CSA 1,897-total (387-killed) CSA
July 22Forsyth, MOUnion Department of the West vs. Confederate Missouri State GuardUnion: 3-total ;Confederates: 15-total USA
July 25Mesilla, New MexicoUnion Department of the New Mexico (~300) vs. Confederate 2nd Texas Mounted Rifles (~380 +artillery )Union: 9-total (2-killed); Confederates: 19-total (13-killed) CSA
July 27Fort Fillmore, NMUnion Department of the New Mexico (~500) vs. Confederate 2nd Texas Mounted Rifles (~300)Union: 500-total (surrendered); Confederates: none CSA
Aug 2Dug Springs, MO (leadup to Wilson's Creek)Union Department of the West (~6,000) vs. Confederate Missouri State Guard (~12,000)Union: 38-total (8 killed ); Confederates:84-total (40 killed)USA
Aug 3Curran Post Office, MO (leadup to Wilson's Creek)Union Department of the West (~6,000) vs. Confederate 1st Arkansas RiflesUnknowninconclusive
Aug 5Athens, MOUnion 21st MO Infantry, Home Guards (~500) vs. Confederate Missouri State Guard (~2,000 + 3-cannons)Union 23-total (3-killed); Confederate 31-totalUSA
Aug 7CSA burned Hampton, VAUnion (Butler) vs. Confederate Cavalry (Magruder)Union unknown; Confederates unknownCSA
Aug 8skirmish at Lovettsville, VA Union vs. Confederate Union unknown; Confederates 6-totalUSA
Aug 10Wilson's Creek, MOUnion Dept of the West (Lyon -5,430)vs. Confederate MO State Guard, Dept 2 (Price -12,120)Union 1,317-total (285-killed incl Gen. Lyon); Confederates 1.232-total (277-killed)CSA
Aug 10Potosi, MOUnion Home Guard (~75 troops) vs. Confederate cavalry (~120 troops)Union 5-total (1-killed); Confederates 5-total (2-killed)USA
Aug 17Palmyra, MOUnion 16th Illinois (entrained) vs. Confederate guerillasUnion 2-total (1-killed); Confederates 5-killedUSA

9 posted on 08/22/2021 8:56:17 AM PDT by BroJoeK (looking for a new tag line...)
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I’ll let you know if we get any responses. ............... “What difference at this point does it make?” What Covington started Custer finished, the great American patriot Black Kettle died in Nov. 1868, for being peaceful. They shot and killed him and his wife in the back as they were trying to get away. I guess we should always trust the Government and their decisions.


10 posted on 08/22/2021 10:48:58 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (In politicians we get what we deserve, usually the best that money can buy, guaranteed.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
“What difference at this point does it make?”

Then why ask?

11 posted on 08/22/2021 11:05:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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