I had it before it even had a name, and I have the IgG and IgM antibodies to prove it.
Posted on 08/21/2021 7:06:23 PM PDT by Enlightened1
George Mason University granted a veteran law professor a medical exemption from its COVID-19 vaccine mandate after he filed a lawsuit demanding recognition of his natural immunity, according to his lawyers.
But the Virginia public university has not updated its policy to recognize recovery from prior infection, as proven by antibody testing, as an accepted alternative to vaccination or exemptions for religious or medical reasons.
For that reason, the New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA) said it "continues to explore litigation against GMU." The public interest law firm implied it's scrutinizing other Virginia public universities, asking COVID-recovered faculty to get in touch if their schools are "similarly disregarding the scientific facts surrounding naturally acquired immunity."
The development comes as a raft of new research shows natural immunity is durable and sometimes more protective than vaccine-induced immunity. Todd Zywicki, the GMU professor, has been on the Twitter warpath sharing such research since he lost his initial battle for recognized immunity.
He mocked the CDC Wednesday for misrepresenting the significance of a methodologically flawed Kentucky study that purported to show improved protection for recovered individuals after vaccination, but at best showed a negligible difference between COVID reinfection rates based on vaccination.
https://twitter.com/ToddZywicki/status/1425086399078936585
"GMU has assured Prof. Zywicki that he will not be subject to disciplinary action, and that he will be allowed to hold office hours and attend in-person events provided he maintains six feet of distance," NCLA said.
The professor also must get tested for the novel coronavirus once a week on campus "at no cost to himself," which is a "favorable result" that should encourage other recovered people to challenge "irrational vaccine mandates."
NCLA litigation counsel Jenin Younes told Just the News that the terms were "discussed in a conference and confirmed via email," but spokesperson Judy Pino declined to provide documentation of the agreement. Zywicki confirmed he had no direct communication with his employer of a quarter century.
The court docket hasn't been updated since Aug. 9, six days after the suit was filed, with no GMU response. Pino said she should have "more clarity in the coming days on that front" and pledged to identify "any faculty that we've heard from if and when we file additional litigation on this issue."
The university issued a lengthy statement late Wednesday to rebut unspecified "public reports," emphasizing GMU "has not entered into any settlement" with Zywicki and that it can't comment on his exemption status under state law.
It has not and "does not plan to give" natural-immunity exemptions, which "would not be consistent with current medical science or public health guidance." The university cited CDC and FDA guidance but not published research.
"Professor Zywicki has been treated the same as any other Mason employee and is required to comply with all Mason policies regarding vaccination, testing, face coverings, physical distancing, and other COVID safety precautions," GMU said. "His litigation had no impact on the consideration of his request for a medical exemption from the vaccination requirement."
Natural immunity better at stopping variants
The university took an early uncompromising posture toward employees who resisted sharing their vaccination status by promising to remove their eligibility for merit pay increases.
Zywicki threatened to sue when GMU refused to accept natural immunity as an exemption. He published statements from his doctor about why vaccination is dangerous for him and two co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration on the effectiveness of natural immunity.
The public warning from NCLA apparently prompted President Gregory Washington to issue a threat to fire employees who "fail to receive an exemption and do not disclose their status and receive the vaccine." That language was removed after Just the News asked about it.
The professor has continued to hammer the university since filing suit in early August.
The Wall Street Journal published his op-ed laying out its acceptance of vaccines with documented lower effectiveness than from natural immunity, including Johnson & Johnson and Chinese vaccines.
He also cited research that vaccination carries more frequent and worse side effects for previously infected people, and the inferiority of "spike protein"-designed vaccines against variants such as Delta, because "natural immunity recognizes the entire complement of SARS-CoV-2 proteins."
The medical exemption form used by GMU - which was not posted when Zywicki made his initial threat - may be vague enough for the university to save face. It requires a medical provider to share a diagnosis under which "administration of the immunizing agents may be detrimental to this individual’s health," such as the shingles reactivation his doctor highlighted.
Zywicki and Younes, his lawyer, went on CNN and Virginia talk radio to discuss the case in the days before NCLA announced the agreement.
How does one determine and or prove immunity to Covid?
My question also. Where do you got to get tested for prior infection antibodies? Wife is looking at losing her job and I may follow soon after.
The same way Covid is proven...
Can’t be too safe with something that is 99.9% survivable.
This whole thing is BONKERS.
I’d like to know as well.
LabCorp
Go online, sched an appt for test, only 10 bucks
Antibody testing. If you have already had Covid (whether you knew it or not) you have natural antibodies. His suit argued that he should not have to take the jab, since he already had natural antibodies.
Up here in the Boston area Quest Diagnostics will do it for $75. No doctor needed . I had mine done in May showing high antibodies and I am waiting on results from a test this past Thursday . I had Covid at Christmas time .
Good for this guy.
Everyone should be doing this.
Easy to prove.
Read a post, by a FReeper, who had China virus last March 2020...who now has even higher antibodies, now, than they did end of last year!
Quote: It has not and “does not plan to give” natural-immunity exemptions, which “would not be consistent with current medical science or public health guidance.”
What a bunch of arrogant, unscientific, blooming idiots!
Probably either from antibody tests, or, in other countries, because they keep records of those who were infected and recovered. Not sure how you’d prove it here in the USA or get that onto some kind of “passport” here due to HIPPA and lack of coordination and systems integration.
Our leaders’ saying that those recovered need a vaccine are little bit silly but I suspect that they don’t want to send mixed or nuanced signals so they just want to create one mandate for all.
Due to the spike of Delta in Israel - which is a highly vaccinated country - they re-started their vaccine passport system for public gatherings. However, they recognize “previous infection and recovered” as equal to a vaccine. If you are recovered you get the passport regardless of vaccine status. There are probably more than double the official covid numbers of people who were infected and recovered. Nobody knows for sure especially those who were asymptomatic but the Red Cross tested donated blood and found 20% of it contained antibodies. If that is representative of the population (it may not be since many blood donors are front line workers, police, EMT etc) then the number of people infected in the USA is twice that of the official stats... pushing us closer to herd immunity.
In Oregon, you have to get a Dr.’s prescription to get a test and receive a card. Then you have to wave it in front of your woke democrat employer with a hint of legal action.
That is the experience of someone I know.
I messaged my Dr asking about this. He’s always been good with my wife and I and we’ve been seeing him for over 20 years. We’ll see what happens. I just saw him yesterday and he didn’t say a word about the vaccine.
I donated a pint of blood at the Red Cross a month after recovering. They sent me back a notice through the app that I was positive for antibodies. Free process.
4 Aug: The Economist: Where will you need a covid passport?
Proof of vaccination ***OR RECOVERY from infection is increasingly being demanded, not just for international travel but also within countries...
https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2021/08/04/where-will-you-need-a-covid-passport
2 Aug: Guardian: Covid passports could work, but coercion is doomed to fail
by Melinda Mills, director of the Leverhulme Centre for Demographic Science, University of Oxford, and a member of SPI-B, the behavioural science subgroup of Sage
Although the details of this measure are yet to be released, it will probably involve showing proof of vaccination, a negative Covid test ***OR RECENT RECOVERY from the virus...
The plans for England’s vaccine passports were announced shortly after France introduced its hardline ‘health pass’ approach, which requires people entering restaurants, cinemas, trains and shopping malls to show proof of two vaccinations, a recent negative Covid test ***OR RECENT RECOVERY from infection...
At the end of June, the Netherlands introduced the type of passport that is currently being proposed in England. Its CoronaCheck app crumbled within hours of release. People were required to have a negative test, proof of vaccination ***OR RECOVERY...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/02/covid-passports-government-vaccine
17 March: European Commission: Questions and Answers: Digital Green Certificate
The ‘Digital Green Certificate’ will facilitate safe and free movement during the COVID-19 pandemic within the EU. A Digital Green Certificate will be a proof that a person has been vaccinated against COVID-19, has received a negative test result ***OR HAS RECOVERED from COVID-19 that can be used across all EU Member States...
1. General
What are the main elements of the proposal?
The Digital Green Certificate system covers three different types of COVID-19 certificates: a vaccination certificate, a test certificate, and a ***CERTIFICATE OF RECOVERY...
The certificates should only include a minimum set of information necessary to confirm and verify the holder’s vaccination, testing ***OR RECOVERY status...
The Digital Green Certificate will make it easier to exercise that right, also through testing and ***RECOVERY CERTIFICATES...
How will it help to facilitate safe free movement?
The Digital Green Certificate can serve as proof of vaccination, testing ***AND RECOVERY in order to waive restrictions to free movement put in place in a Member State on public health grounds, such as testing or quarantine requirements...
The regulation also introduces some basic principles, for example, setting the maximum validity period of the certificate ***OF RECOVERY at 180 days...
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_21_1187
THERE’S A TRICK!
***However, the Commission also points out that tests that detect if a person developed antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 - also known as antibodies tests - ***cannot be used to obtain a recovery certificate.
2 July: Schengen Visa Information (EU): All Details on EU COVID-19 Vaccine Passport Revealed: Here’s What You Need to Know
What Is a Recovery Certificate?
Travellers who have recently been infected with COVID-19, and recovered from it, should also be permitted to travel with an EU COVID travel certificate.
“The EU Digital Covid Certificate of recovery confirms that the holder has recovered from a SARS-CoV-2 infection following a positive test. It should be issued no earlier than 11 days after the first positive test,” the Commission explains.
However, the Commission also points out that tests that detect if a person developed antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 - also known as antibodies tests - ***cannot be used to obtain a recovery certificate...
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-details-on-eu-covid-19-passport-revealed-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
There probably is some elaborate test to determine amount of anti-bodies present.
But, why are a minority of Americans scared of this nothing burger covid vaccine? Common sense is lacking is what I conclude. Just think, nearing 200,000,000 Americans are on schedule to be jabbed in just a few weeks. Hospitals are required to report any adverse effects from vaccine to VAERS. Recent count of adverse effects (Death or Serious hospitalization) is running at 0.006% of those jabbed. To be scared of something proven safe by 99.994% borders on some psychotic illness.
I had it before it even had a name, and I have the IgG and IgM antibodies to prove it.
Unfortunately the Red Cross stopped giving your antibody results on June 15.
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/covid-19-antibody-testing.html
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