Posted on 08/17/2021 8:42:51 AM PDT by missamyb
Hi everyone, my 67 year old aunt was diagnosed with lung cancer last week...it is treatable but she lives with my cousin who just found out she has covid. They are both vaccinated but we need some help with recommendations for supplements and dosage etc. Coming off of the terrible news last week we are very worried. Thank you
Monoclonal antibody infusion. This should be your priority. The other options pale in comparison.
If you want things in addition to that, good choices would be (given the health issues of the person involved, the doctor should be asked if they’re okay to take):
Ivermectin (probably the second priority to look into but far behind monoclonal antibody infusion.) There’ll likely be hoops to jump through to get a prescription (unless you go the ivermectin horse wormer route.)Doctor probably won’t okay ivermectin even if he okays everything else.
“People often poo poo hydroxchloroquine Well it helped me”
Zinc may be what’s fighting the virus, it interferes with viral replication. But zinc needs an assist to get through cell membranes in order to work. HCQ or quercetin can fill that role. Quercetin is the easier one to get since you can order it from a vitamin supplier, it’s a supplement and not a drug.
here’s PubMed paper on it:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8264737/
Quercetin as zinc ionophore
Quercetin, a bioflavonoid polyphenol, has been shown to act as a zinc ionophore, enhancing entrance of zinc into cells to inhibit viral intracellular replication. It is also believed to block viruses from entering cells in the first place. An Oak Ridge National Labs/University of Tennessee study of many FDA-approved compounds presented supercomputer modeling results for inhibition by them of SARS-CoV-2 viral S-spike binding to cells. The study ranked quercetin as fifth out of 20 top performers.
Studies have shown quercetin also exhibiting anti-inflammatory properties, which could help mitigate the inflammatory response of cytokine and/or bradykinin storms provoked by COVID-19. A wide range of anti-viral/immunity benefits of quercetin have been identified, as well as other health benefits that may address some comorbidities of COVID-19 and some of its sequelae.
SeekAndFind posted a thread about treatments. It had a link to a demonstration that Quercetin works on its own.
Groups at high risk for the wuhan coronavirus have more stored iron. Some claim Quercetin removes iron from the body.
Thank you sad we couldn’t help her
Yep, quercetin and EGCG have antiviral action beyond their zinc ionophore function, but people might as well get full benefit by including zinc. A lot of the antiviral research on quercetin and EGCG is in vitro.
Here’s an interesting study I ran across about quercetin + bromelain + C (without zinc.) Not sure how reliable it is, but it suggests quercetin is useful. And it’s with people instead of in vitro.
https://europepmc.org/article/ppr/ppr239932
Don’t give your Aunt anything without checking with her oncologist. Antioxidant supplements may feed cancer.
large amounts of beta-carotene (antioxidant) can be a negative effect with smoker and lung cancer.
That and how ugly ....purely evil in my opinion the callousness shown her by a handful
Lowest point I’ve ever seen here....Jim Thompson to his credit banished the worst....I applaud that
“SeekAndFind posted a thread about treatments. It had a link to a demonstration that Quercetin works on its own.”
I’m not sure what you mean by “works on it’s own”. Quercetin is a zinc ionophore, as is HCQ. Either one will enable zinc to cross cell membranes where the zinc can then interfere with viral replication.
They might also reduce the ability of the virus’ spike protein to attach to ACE2 receptors. I don’t know that that’s been proven. One HCQ test that seemed to work in the lab required a dose far higher than is deemed safe in your body. Quercetin should be the safer choice as well as easier to get, being a supplement rather than a drug.
“The injections that create spike proteins can’t be turned off.”
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.02.424917v2.
I don’t know why “injections” is being mentioned since the link leads to an article discussing effects of the wild virus, not of spike proteins generated by the vaccines.
The vaccine generated spike proteins are not identical to the wild Covid spike proteins, something that gets ignored by those ginning up fear of the way the vaccines are designed.
The vaccine spike proteins were purposely altered so that they can’t function like the wild virus. They can’t infect you, and the article at the link is discussing cytokine storms resulting from covid infection.
I’m not sure what you mean by “works on it’s own”.
It helps people with wuhan coronavirus giving them Quercetin and nothing else.
I’ll see what I can find. I just located a 2016 PubMed paper “Quercetin, Inflammation and Immunity” that backs the idea that quercetin alone could be useful. I like finding pre-2020 papers since that eliminates the argument that the research is tainted by covid politics.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC4808895/
“In vitro and some animal models have shown that quercetin, a polyphenol derived from plants, has a wide range of biological actions including anti-carcinogenic, anti-inflammatory and antiviral activities”
The most promising aspect of quercetin is that it’s found in food so readily available. Not a drug. It’s possible that food sources could be superior to supplements as is sometimes the case with vitamins.
So you’re a biochemist and can evaluate the claims in those links? You’re pretending which is why you post nonsense like “They ALL cause cancer (P53 gene) and accelerated aging”.
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