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'They want people to take them seriously': Space Force wary of taking over UFO mission
Pollutico ^ | 08/09/2021 | Brya Bender

Posted on 08/13/2021 10:09:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Space Force leaders are still struggling to rebrand an organization that has been lampooned since before its birth. Now, they are conflicted about becoming the military's go-to on what the Pentagon now calls "unidentified aerial phenomena," according to five current and former officials taking part in the discussions.

The unclassified summary stated that "we currently lack sufficient information in our dataset to attribute incidents to specific explanations." It also concluded that the unknown craft "clearly pose a safety of flight issue [Does it really?] and may pose a challenge to U.S. national security.[Based on what?]"

...[Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen] Hicks sought a plan "for the establishment and operation of the new activity, to include the organizational alignment, resources and staffing required, as well as any necessary authorities."

The issue has primarily been overseen by a temporary Pentagon UAP Task Force that was stood up in 2020 and led by the Navy, whose pilots, radars and other surveillance systems have compiled most of the recent reports of unexplained sightings.

Advocates for the Space Force taking over for the Navy, which is currently leading the Pentagon's task force responsible for studying them, believe the new service is better suited to oversee a more robust effort aimed at collecting information on UFOs, and that its association with a topic of such public fascination, particularly among young people, could even boost recruiting.

But in addition to the Space Force, which works in tandem with the newly reestablished U.S. Space Command, officials are considering a number of military and intelligence organizations at this early stage that could take the lead or combine their efforts in a new organization.

One is the secretive Space Security and Defense Program, which reports to both the Pentagon and the director of national intelligence, which oversees all spy agencies.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Military/Veterans; UFO's
KEYWORDS: spaceforce; ufos; ussf; usspaceforce
United States Space Force

What it looks like to us...

What it looks like to the aliens...

1 posted on 08/13/2021 10:09:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: KC_Lion

Ping.


2 posted on 08/13/2021 10:11:30 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t blame them.

They’re there to prepare for the coming fight against Russia and China.


3 posted on 08/13/2021 10:14:17 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: airborne

The latest UFO stuff (particularly the New York Slimes coverage) is a Deep State disinformation campaign designed to hide high-tech weaponry.

Think of it as Operation Mockingbird in action...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

(Of course the names have been changed to protect the guilty...)


4 posted on 08/13/2021 10:18:24 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

There could be two issues...real alien operations the Deepstate can do nothing about and of course the use of ‘aliens among us” motifs as a convenient screen by the deep state to hide the high tech stuff you mentioned in your posting.


5 posted on 08/13/2021 10:36:22 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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To: mdmathis6

I agree there are “real alien operations” as there have been throughout human history, but there is no way the New York Slimes will write about those.

It they write about it, you can be absolutely certain it is an intelligence disinformation operation.


6 posted on 08/13/2021 10:46:51 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

If you insist on thinking that UFO/UAP are supposed to be “aliens” then you’re disinforming yourself.

A much more likely explanation is that these are simply a secret technology.

And most likely they’ve been paid for out of a black budget.


7 posted on 08/13/2021 10:50:52 AM PDT by MercyFlush ( According to the New York Times "Freedom" is an anti-government slogan. )
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To: MercyFlush

The UAPs reviewed by the Pentagon and covered by the New York Slimes are definitely secret technology as you say.

The fun stuff is what they _don’t_ talk about...

Two books worth your time:

https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Magonia-Folklore-Flying-Saucers/dp/0987422480

https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Cosmos-John-Mack/dp/1907661816

Or—if you want to listen to an audio discussion of similar issues:

https://psychedelicsalon.com/podcast-261-the-definitive-ufo-tape/


8 posted on 08/13/2021 11:05:14 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: BenLurkin

If we ever discovered alien life it would likely be at the cellular level which got here by way of an asteroid type body that has been sailing the cosmos a long time. But the odds of that are infinitesimal.


9 posted on 08/13/2021 11:07:12 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: BenLurkin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDy4OMAkgY


10 posted on 08/13/2021 11:19:20 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Do kids in Iceland still play "The Floor Is Lava?")
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To: circlecity

Ants will never find human life—because they don’t where to look—even if it is right in front of their noses!


11 posted on 08/13/2021 11:19:59 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

Aliens will not treat us any better than Fauci treats beagles

(if we are lucky)


12 posted on 08/13/2021 11:50:02 AM PDT by algore ( )
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To: cgbg
and a one sentence summary of both linked books and the audio...the classic McKenna quote:

There is another tenant in the building...
13 posted on 08/13/2021 11:51:35 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: algore

Hard to know if this is true, but supposedly when the Spanish ships first arrived in the Caribbean (around 1500), the natives could not see them!

Since such huge ships could not exist in the native epistemology, there was nothing to see!

Also supposedly it was the village religious leader (shaman) who was the only one who could see the ships, and he had to try to explain the “impossible”.

Sometimes I feel like that around here....


14 posted on 08/13/2021 11:55:43 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: BenLurkin

Space Force became a joke when it fired Col Lohmier. That told us they are not a serious organization doing something important.


15 posted on 08/13/2021 11:56:22 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: cgbg

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3lh0kz/is_it_true_that_when_the_indians_saw_ships_for/

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It’s a bogus claim; the psuedoscience documentary What the bleep do we know? popularized it in recent years. There are several websites and videos debunking that movie, but for quick reference, here’s a short video discussing the relevant clips.

The story is a misrepresentation of a Cook’s expedition to Australia, where indigenous Australians (called “Indians” in the journal of John Banks, the botanist who accompanied Cook and the ultimate source for this story) sometimes ignored the Endeavour as it passed within a quarter of a mile of the coast. Here is a brief account of such an event from April 28, 1770, and probably the one incident that inspired the later claim of people being unable to perceive ships at sea.

By noon we were within the mouth of the inlet, which appeared very good. Under the south head of it were four small canoes; in each of these was one man who held in his hand a long pole with which he struck fish, venturing with his little imbarkation almost into the surf. These people seemed to be totally engaged in what they were about: the ship passed within a quarter of a mile of them and yet they scarce lifted their eyes from their employment; I was almost inclined to think that attentive to their business and defeaned by the noise of the surf they neither saw nor heard her go past them. At one we came to an anchor abreast of a small village consisting of about six or eight houses. Soon after this an old woman followed by three children came out of the wood; she carried several pieces of stick and the children also had their little burdens; when she came to the houses three more, younger children came out of one of them to meet her. She often looked at the ship but expressed neither surprise nor concern. Soon after this she lighted a fire, and the four canoes came in from fishing; the people landed; hauled up their boats, and began to dress their dinner, to all appearances totally unmoved at us, though we were within a little more than half a mile of them. Of all these people we had seen so distinctly through our glasses we had not been able to observe the least signs of clothing; myself to the best of my judgement plainly discerned that the woman did not copy our mother Eve even in the fig-leaf.

Of course, it’s completely cherry-picking from Banks’ writings to use this passage as evidence that Australians could not perceive the Endeavour. Immediately before the quoted passage, Banks wrote about other people who were obviously reacting to the presence of the Endeavour and its associated landing party.

The land this morn appeared cliffy and barren without wood. An opening appearing like a harbor was seen, and we stood directly in for it. A small smoke arising from a very barren place directed our glasses that way, and we soon saw about ten people, whom on our approach left the fire and retired to a little eminence where they could conveniently see the ship. Soon after this, two canoes carrying two men each landed on the beach under them; the men hauled up their boats and went to their fellows upon the hill. Our boat which had been sent ahead to sound now approached the place, and they all retired higher up on the hill’ we saw, however, that at the beach or landing-place one man at least was hid among some rocks who never that we could see left that place. Our boat proceeded along shore and the Indians followed her at a distance. When she came back, the officer who was in her told me that in a cove a little within the harbour they came down to the beach and invited our people to land by many signs and word(s) which he did not at all understand; all, however, were armed with long pikes and a wooden weapon made something like short scimitar.

As for the situation in the Ameicas, there’s absolutely nothing to support this claim there. You can read about Columbus’ first encounters with Native Americans here starting on the bottom of page 36. His journal jumps pretty quickly from the first sighting of land to his first landing, so there’s no mention of how the Lucayans react to his approach. There’s friendly interaction on shore on October 12th and on October 13th mention that the natives were coming to Columbus’ ships in their own canoes (some large enough to hold 40+ people). All in all, despite Columbus’ paternalistic and imperialistic opinions of those he met, first contact went rather well up until Columbus decides to start kidnapping people to serve as translators. No evidence of mysterious invisible ships.

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16 posted on 08/13/2021 12:21:17 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: cgbg

All worked up about nothing - Earth is an interstellar vacation spot as all hip aliens know.


17 posted on 08/13/2021 12:22:18 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

I hear the girls are easy there...


18 posted on 08/13/2021 4:34:28 PM PDT by Kommodor (Solzhenitsyn was an optimist...)
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19 posted on 08/28/2021 10:07:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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