Posted on 08/12/2021 4:41:13 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin
Help me understand what that means, please! (I’m trying to follow the symposium when I can)
I don't believe I contradicted Anderson. There was some other data provided regarding server images on Wednesday. Here is what the article said:
"When Alderson received Lindell’s data on Wednesday morning, he said it didn’t add up.
“We were unable to get the data from the actual 2020 election. Very disappointing,” said Alderson.
Some of his colleagues were discovering the same thing.
“But every person who came specifically looking for those p-caps was very disappointed. Some were somewhat angry,” said Alderson.
Again, Lindell offered a reward if someone could prove that his data didn't come from the 2020 election. No one present has offered proof that it didn't. "I can't decrypt it", or "I never saw the data" proves nothing.
I would suggest that no reward was going to be collected if the packet captures were not available or were so limited in quantity that a judgement could not be rendered by cyber experts who attended the Symposium.
On the Internet, everyone is an expert on everything. Again, if you weren't at the event, legally, all you offer is so much hearsay. Even if you were to be qualified as an expert on interpreting P-caps, since you never saw the data, you can't analyze the data. You just repeat so much hearsay and speculation, and as noted above, contradict your alleged sources.
Agreed! FR is full of lawyers, doctors, and everything in between as an example! ;)
More likely, Lindell only offered a very small sample for analysis, which was too little for those present to decrypt or conclusively analyze. That doesn't disprove his theory.
Not sure what the purpose of his $5 million dollar challenge was then. And again, unfortunately, all we are left with is a theory that is yet unproven.
Expert analysis from strangers wasn't his purpose in calling the forum. It was simply a method of drumming up interest for the event like a carnival barker. Ultimately, the matter should get decided by SCOTUS, not guys commenting on the Internet. Lindell did state that he had 12 different experts from across the U.S. confirm the data, including two government employees. When the court action is filed, that's the main event, not what happened this week.
Oh, the court action that people are talking about. We shall see.
Since Lindell has no standing to bring a petition for a writ of quo warranto, he would not be the one to use them in court. He's just the PR man working for more audits to produce conclusive evidence of the hack, i.e., the ballots themselves. You've missed the big picture here.
I don't think he has done his claims any favors with the problems encountered with the Symposium including data captures not being provided. I'm not sure I missed the big picture. But perhaps.
Again I’m sorry Lindell did not make his pcaps available for expert or public review. I believe his heart is in the right place, and that he was poorly served by his staff and those who did his pcap research. It's unfortunate he apparently is unable or unwilling to make some more all of the data public for the claims he has made. No one should get a pass on proving their claims on such an important issue. Including Lindell. I don't think he yet has proved his claims. But we shall see.
You know that how (that he knew in advance)?
Think about what you are claiming.
You are claiming that Lindell had no intention of paying the $5 million, as he knew IN ADVANCE that the packet captures were not available or were so limited in quantity that a judgement could not be rendered by cyber experts who attended the Symposium.
Think about what your assertion says about Mike Lindell. That he deceived people to attend the Symposium? I don’t believe that was his motive or plan - to have people attend knowing IN ADVANCE that the packet captures were not available. It’s unfortunate that apparently you do.
There’s not much more to write about if you’re suggesting the motives/actions decided in advance by Lindell. As you write, we’ll see how the legal activities go.
Good luck.
Works for me.........Sheesh!
Thanks. Yes, I am well aware of the challenges.
It’s tiresome to be constantly on the receiving end of such convenient excuse and deflection. I understand, believe me.
I try in my own small way; who knows who reads what I post, maybe it’ll reach through to someone. I’ve only advocated unbiased, objective self-education, ultimately. I’ve never had anyone reply with anything substantial; only more rabbit holes to dive into, deflections and distractions to “research on my own”.
Again, it’s tiresome, and I am so tired myself of all of it. I try to come on FR at times when news cannot be denied. Like the PCAP debacle for example. Who can deny that Lindell’s much awaited Symposium fell flat for that precise reason? After all it (the PCAPS) were the precise evidence he promised would return a “9-0” decision “reinstating” Trump.
Where is that now? Anyone reading this now I repeat the same question from a few nights ago? Where? Is the SC meeting now in a smoky backroom somewhere, about to “reinstate” Trump? Anyone? Buhler?
Not to mention the fact, that so many leftists have gleefully pointed out, THE SUPREME COURT ISN’T EVEN IN SESSION IN AUGUST! So even before the Symposium, Lindell’s claim was laughable.
Now even more so. To anyone with a shred of objectivity. But it’s already started, the continued deflection, obfuscation, yes the “grift” (which again I don’t think Lindell is a part of; I really do believe he’s a nice guy who got duped). But that doesn’t mean there’s no grift here.
“Oh, the PCAPS really weren’t important after all, we have THIS now to show....”
or..
“Oh, the PCAP data was compromised by the deep state, blah blah blah....”
Or...anything really to DEFLECT from the PROMISE made for MONTHS by Lindell HIMSELF, and nothing but an imploded nightmare of RIDICULOUSNESS is the only result.
It’s obvious, really; one doesn’t have to be a computer expert to even see it. Something was promised for months (”absolute proof” in the form of these pcaps) and at the last minute was not provided. Classic bait and switch. Classic con.
I only feel bad for Lindell. He is obviously losing it because he’s staring to realize he’s been had, and now faces a billion dollar lawsuit from Dominion with no “evidence” to defend himself in court.
Anyone who continues down this road is part of the problem in my opinion. Such people continue to deny reality and therefore, are part of the problem; dragging DOWN the conservative movement, dragging it down from intellectualism and rational thought, into the MUCK of “theory” on par with the “faked moon landing” and “Aliens landed at Roswell”.
Where’s the much promised audit report from Arizona? Wasn’t that supposed to be released in some week in June? Then July? Then first or second week of August? Did I miss it? Someone show me anything there of substance, please, maybe I missed it. Seems like another grift though to me. (I mean really, “Cyber Ninjas”, who ever took such people seriously, with such a STUPID name? But I digress....)
No audit report? No PCAPS? NO SALE to grifters anywhere!
I suppose more to your reply to me, I’d offer the following to Dr. Franklin to consider: (from someone who was there, and IS an expert in pcaps):
https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1426265467862327297?s=20
https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1426234536309018628?s=20
Live thread from Symposium (goes for 88 separate follow up tweets through all 3 days, in the end, despite what GP and Steve Bannon, and Lindell himself may claim, the PCAPS were NOT given for independent verification therefore no verification of Lindell’s claim, AT ALL):
https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1424878450867847181?s=20
Yes, apparently Rob Graham is part of the Deep State now. I wonder how “deep” it goes? < /sarc >
By the way, we (on FR) are all aware that “Q” is probably Ron Watkins right, of 8chan fame? Or at least he knows who “Q” is, and holds that identity “tight”, for security reasons dontcha know < /DRIPPING sarc >
SMH
And speaking of Gateway Pundit, look at this:
Talk about “eating our own”. Apparently now this “Spider”, not to mention Montgomery himself (the apparent owner of all PCAPS everywhere) is being thrown under the bus for being a traitor. Or is it telling the truth before he’s implicated in a Dominion lawsuit himself? I can’t tell...
Partisan Media Shills suck.
The Washington Times is the Conservative paper in Washington DC, not a random website.
We’re talking past each other. We’re not going to see this in a similar way. It’s just the way it is.
Mike Lindell will have a chance to make his case at upcoming civil litigation if it gets to that point.
https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1427040082184257539?s=20
https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1427426139094532101?s=20
Here’s a pretty interesting interview with Wiebe talking about Montegomery, along with election fraud more generally:
https://banned.video/watch?id=611f96b563db74600b02c158
Wiebe still very sharp, if you listen all the way through.
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