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Assisted dying: 'Why I'm ending my life, while I still can'
BBC ^ | Aug 3 | Paul Murphy-Kasp

Posted on 08/02/2021 11:11:27 PM PDT by RandFan

David Peace has motor neurone disease, a terminal illness which gradually affects the brain and nerves.

He says he intends to travel to a Swiss clinic to end his life before his condition prevents him from making the journey.

David, who lives in central London, is one of a number of people behind renewed calls to update England and Wales assisted dying laws to allow terminally ill people, with six months to live, the right to end their life, subject to strict criteria.

A second reading of the assisted dying bill is due to take place in the House of Lords this autumn.

But opponents say there should be better focus on helping people to live more comfortable lives, rather than assisting them to die.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; deathcommittees; euthanasia; killyourself; mengele; suicide
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1 posted on 08/02/2021 11:11:27 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Fools abscessed with themselves.


2 posted on 08/02/2021 11:14:36 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: RandFan

I wouldn’t be surprised if they passed assisted suicide bills in the UK and EU countries. Putting someone down is a lot cheaper than paying for their medical care in their last stage of life. Socialized medicine has its downsides.


3 posted on 08/02/2021 11:18:42 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: RandFan

Better still, if you’re going to off yourself, do a David Carradine in a closet for your caregiver to find. That’ll give you the same orgasmic thrill of taking your own life, with no cost, no effort, and we don’t have to hear of it.


4 posted on 08/02/2021 11:20:46 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: RandFan

While we can look forward to a joyous hereafter, it is our duty to struggle to the last breath. Suicide is a sin even for the terminally ill. As the poet Dylan Thomas put it, “Do not go gentle into that good night.” The night is good but “rage” against the coming of death.


5 posted on 08/02/2021 11:22:42 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( "...To the barricades...")
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To: RandFan

For an adult in a daily state of agony, where the only relief is strong pain relievers that just put you to sleep, I say this is a private decision between him and his doctor.
I don’t feel what he feels. I’m not the one who has been waking up wearing that malfunctioning body for multiple years with no improvement.


6 posted on 08/02/2021 11:29:21 PM PDT by lee martell
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" I say this is a private decision between him and his doctor."

Exactly. My mother had ALS. Her doctor told her very carefully that the medications she was prescribed for pain and anxiety would stop her breathing if she took too many.

7 posted on 08/02/2021 11:50:07 PM PDT by blackdog (Joe Biden, Deep State Cuckold.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It will be here sooner or later.


8 posted on 08/03/2021 12:31:13 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: RandFan
Assisted suicide clinics are a thing in Europe. They even made a feature film about it, Euphoria:

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0718/euphoria.html

9 posted on 08/03/2021 12:37:40 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: lee martell

Murder is murder even if you do it to yourself.


10 posted on 08/03/2021 1:31:13 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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Legal assisted suicide is the way for young people to inherit before their time.   A caregiver son, daughter or grandchild browbeating, badgering and haranguing and old person to just get it over with to decrease the surplus population and let them at the money.   Forbid it All Mighty God!   Oh, wait, He already did that.
11 posted on 08/03/2021 1:38:24 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: lee martell

Agreed, I don’t understand how so called “small government conservatives” are all for government forcing suffering people with no quality of life to stay alive.


12 posted on 08/03/2021 1:55:52 AM PDT by Husker24 (Pp)
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a person doesn't need to make a spectacle of himself, announcing far and wide that he is going to a country that will help him suicide himself....

there is no glory in that....we don't care really, what you do to end your life....

why not just stop eating?...stop drinking?...that will kill you in just a few days....why not stop taking your pills?....

why involve the rest of the public in your demise.....

13 posted on 08/03/2021 2:04:16 AM PDT by cherry
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To: lee martell

That’s not the way Lou Gehrig went out.


14 posted on 08/03/2021 2:06:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Husker24

Because many small government conservatives know that the motives for big government liberal atheists in pushing assisted suicide by government “support” are not really altruistic and support of such a push is not a sign one supports “small government”, now isn’t it?

If one wants to end their life bad enough,one will do so, laws or not. Why should one burden the rest of us and the government with one’s choice to die? There are lots of ways to do it. That is the ultimate small government position on the matter.


15 posted on 08/03/2021 2:24:06 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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To: higgmeister

What grants you moral authority?...asking for a friend...


16 posted on 08/03/2021 2:33:00 AM PDT by Misitheus
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To: RandFan

Sounds like he has ALS. It’s always easy for those not afflicted with it to admonish those who want to spare themselves and their families the agony of wasting away to the point at which you have no ability to move and await the time at which the disease kills off your ability to take a breath. I support this guy’s decision.


17 posted on 08/03/2021 2:33:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now. )
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To: lee martell
For an adult in a daily state of agony, where the only relief is strong pain relievers that just put you to sleep, I say this is a private decision between him and his doctor. I don’t feel what he feels. I’m not the one who has been waking up wearing that malfunctioning body for multiple years with no improvement.

I disagree. Without modern medicine, such condition would result in a fairly rapid demise due to loss of balance -> fall -> fracture -> infection and death.

In an advanced society, the person not wishing to be a burden and/or go out as naturally as possible could reject all intervention except pain medications

18 posted on 08/03/2021 2:36:29 AM PDT by fso301
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To: blackdog

Years ago I worked with a man whose wife was a hospice nurse. Over the course of discussing the nature of her work, etc., he noted there is a very fine line legally that hospice practitioners must tread when giving pain medication.

It is all about intention. It is legal to give strong, very strong pain medication at dose levels that will shorten the patient’s life IF your primary intention is to reduce patient pain/suffering. If your intention is to end their suffering by ending their life immediately, it’s murder.

The explanation your mother’s physician gave her served two purposes. It protected him legally since he had given explicit instruction on how to take the medication safely. But in doing so, as I’m sure you have long since realized, he also told her what the lethal doses of those medications were so, if she choose that course in the future, she would attain her end.

This seems obvious but there are numerous reports of failed suicide attempts with medication. Sometimes the amount of medication needed will cause vomiting before a fatal amount could be ingested or, worse yet, the effect may not be fatal but will cause severe physiological damage, thereby making a bad situation even worse.


19 posted on 08/03/2021 2:37:23 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow. )
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To: lee martell

Amen to that. Until one actually is beset with a horrific, terminal illness like ALS, that “moral high ground” is far easier to take. I’ve seen two friends and a beloved extended family fade away from ALS. It is a cruel, horrid way to die. I support anyone’s wish to spare themselves and their family that ordeal.


20 posted on 08/03/2021 2:38:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now. )
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