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"Gain of Function" is a Misnomer when referencing SARS-CoV-2's Lab Origins [vanity]
FR | 7/25/2021 | self

Posted on 07/25/2021 9:10:13 AM PDT by logi_cal869

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To: logi_cal869
I grasped their obfuscation just as well as I grasped yours.

Your essay is ...


61 posted on 07/25/2021 12:17:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who shot Ashli Babbitt?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Not when you’re combatting propaganda intended to obfuscate key facts pursuant to a criminal inquiry. Paul dropped the ball. Watch for a change in language next go around.


62 posted on 07/25/2021 12:18:16 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Robert DeLong

You can’t read. Speaks volumes, it seems.


63 posted on 07/25/2021 12:19:13 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869
Rand Paul's assertion:

This research fits the definition of the research that the NIH said was subject to the pause in 2014 to 2017

The words from that pause policy

New USG funding will not be released for gain-of-function research projects that may be reasonably anticipated to confer attributes to influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses such that the virus would have enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility in mammals via the respiratory route. The research funding pause would not apply to characterization or testing of naturally occurring influenza, MERS, and SARS viruses, unless the tests are reasonably anticipated to increase transmissibility and/or pathogenicity.

The virus causing Covid-19 is the SARS virus SARS-CoV-2.

Seems like an open and shut case of Senator Paul being 100% correct and Fauci lying like a rug.

64 posted on 07/25/2021 1:29:53 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: logi_cal869

Well, you can’t connect dots. Speaks even more volumes its evident.


65 posted on 07/25/2021 2:55:21 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: logi_cal869

Wouldn’t GoFoC be subset of GoF? Therefore research developing GoFoC is developing GoF. If Sen. Paul was talking about research that does not develop the functions of concern and referred to it as GoFoC you would have a point but talking about the more general gain of function is not inaccurate even if imprecise.


66 posted on 07/25/2021 3:06:03 PM PDT by Data Miner
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To: logi_cal869

Fair enough. I don’t know all the language of virology. It will be interesting


67 posted on 07/25/2021 3:46:31 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: logi_cal869

Rarely have I ever seen anyone so condescending, insulting and obnoxious all while FAILING completely to make a convincing argument.


68 posted on 07/25/2021 6:37:07 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Not making an argument. Presenting facts. I anticipated all the crap in this thread. I knew you'd be here, too. I have your trophy:


69 posted on 07/25/2021 7:54:39 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Let’s try to salvage the wreckage of this thread and your credibility. Perhaps by taking a different approach. Instead of cutting and pasting long paragraphs of inconclusive bureaucratic communications, try presenting your “facts” in one or two sentences. I’ll help get you started.

“Rand Paul claims GOF is ...”. “He is wrong because ...”.


70 posted on 07/26/2021 5:04:04 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
I'm so blessed to have been judged by the likes of you. Permit me to judge you as well:


71 posted on 07/26/2021 5:59:37 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

As I expected. You debate like a leftist. Attack someone with lies and insults (Rand Paul), then when challenged to defend your baseless claims you respond with nothing but insults.


72 posted on 07/26/2021 7:13:04 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

You didn’t ask for a debate, i.e. an exchange of ideas.

Ironically, YOU got triggered and responded like a leftist.

Paul’s no litigator; he had the opportunity to go for the jugular and blew it. He was unprepared. Don’t like it? Talk to his staff. I’m just pointing out the obvious for the normally intelligent (that’s another slur, btw; BATTER UP).

My response was well deserved. Stock up on q-tips, buttercup: That brown stuff ain’t wax.


73 posted on 07/26/2021 1:25:31 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Still waiting for you to explain why what Rand Paul said was wrong. Obviously you CANNOT answer the question and so you respond with nothing but blither, insults and the seeming inability to understand that commonly used words such as “debate” and “argument” have multiple meanings. I will waste no more time on you.


74 posted on 07/26/2021 6:04:16 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Already did dumbass. Take your trophy and go home.


75 posted on 07/26/2021 6:48:37 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yep, this is the new line from The Left. They can’t deny Fauci’s role in the Covid-Wuhan leak, so they are now downplaying the danger of G-O-F research.


76 posted on 07/26/2021 6:58:35 PM PDT by Kenny Bania (Ovaltine? Why not call it Roundtine?)
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To: Robert DeLong

Yes you did. Barking up the wrong tree.

You should take off your blinders before picking a target and engage that tissue between the ears.

It’s amazing how many here were triggered by my sidebar critique of Paul; that should bear some self analysis (not on my part).


77 posted on 07/27/2021 6:47:22 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: rollo tomasi

Having retained his position as a bureaucrat for 30 years, I do not believe he is incompetent. I believe that he is shrewd and conniving.

But if you read some of these comments here one would think I’m a sycophant.


78 posted on 07/27/2021 6:50:06 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869
Says the man who ignores all of the proven lies emitted from Fauci over everything Covid, while simultaneously ignoring what Fauci was doing with the Gain-of-Function definition to benefit himself and others, at the expense of ordinary people.

Those who proclaim to be the smartest in the room, like yourself, usually do so because no one recognizes them as such, and usually think just the opposite of what he proclaims himself to be.

You are what the Russian's would call a useful idiot.

79 posted on 07/27/2021 7:04:30 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: logi_cal869

So much words

LORD, Can I please have the two minutes of my life back that I wasted reading this and replying? WHAT


80 posted on 07/27/2021 5:21:12 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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