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THE GREAT REBELLION: The Victory on Sunday, and How it was Lost; THE NATIONAL ARMY NOT ROUTED; Lists of Our Killed and Wounded (7/24/1861)
New York Times archives – Times Machine ^ | 7/24/1861

Posted on 07/24/2021 7:08:33 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

WASHINGTON, Tuesday, July 23.

The feeling is much better here to-day. The enormous exaggerations of the runaway soldiers have ceased to have the effect which attended them yesterday. Our loss in killed and wounded will not much exceed six hundred, though the missing may be three times that number.

It is understood that the Government has already taken the necessary steps to bring one hundred thousand men into the field here, and this renews the confidence and determination of the people.

Col. RAMSAY's regiment has been accepted, and ordered to report at Washington within twenty days, and muster in by hundreds.

The losses of the New-York and other regiments have been greatly overstated. The Seventy-first has not lost over thirty in killed and wounded. The Fire Zouaves suffered more severely, as did also the Sixty-ninth. Capt. T.F. MEAGHER had a horse shot under him, but is untouched. All our losses were in advancing -- none in falling back. There was no panic in front. This was confined mainly to the wagon drivers, straggling soldiers and fugitive officers, at the rear of the columns.

Our greatest deficiency was in cool and competent officers. The men fought nobly, and were ready for anything which experienced commanders would order them to do.

Gen. MCDOWELL behaved admirably. He was active, cool, and attended to everything in person, so far as possible; but he had not a sufficient staff, and was not properly supported by his subordinates. Major WADSWORTH, of New-York, one of his aids, showed the utmost gallantry and devotion.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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1 posted on 07/24/2021 7:08:33 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 07/24/2021 7:09:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
The Great Rebellion: The Victory on Sunday and How it was Lost – 2-5
Incidents of the Battle – 5
Massachusetts Troops Mustered Out of Service – 5
Incidents of the March and Battle– 5-6
The Sharp-Shooting Enterprise: Shall Volunteer Sharp-Shooters Choose their Own Weapons – 6-7
Editorial: Who Won the Victory? – 7
Editorial: The Press and the Government – 7-8
Editorial: The Result-Is it a Prophecy? – 8
The Want of Cavalry – 8
Rebel Sharp-Shooters – 8
Schooner Chased by a Privateer – 8
Return of Col. Dare’s Regiment – 8
Quadrilemma – 8
3 posted on 07/24/2021 7:10:29 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Good morning Professor.

Sounds like the NYT is trying to put lipstick on a pig.

5.56mm


4 posted on 07/24/2021 7:21:34 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

(Morgan Freeman’s Voice) The National Army had indeed, been routed at Bull Run.


5 posted on 07/24/2021 7:24:22 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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This is the very first account I have read about published fake news.

It' true ..... If we don't learn it, it will be repeated.

6 posted on 07/24/2021 7:56:56 AM PDT by knarf
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To: M Kehoe

Truth is always the first casualty in any war. Never trust a journalist. Always biased.


7 posted on 07/24/2021 8:52:13 AM PDT by allendale
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To: knarf
"This is the very first account I have read about published fake news."

"Yesterday" the NYTimes reported a Union victory, which could have been true before, say, around 2:00 PM.

"Today" they report the route was not as bad as reported by some others.
That is also arguably true.

Astute participants/observers like Union Col. WT Sherman had nothing good to say about Union leadership, but still thought Union troops had courage.
In due time Sherman will help correct the Union's leadership problem.

In the mean time the NYTimes will soldier on, bringing as much of the truth as was fit to print... ;-(

8 posted on 07/24/2021 8:54:11 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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A couple of random thoughts...

The fog of war played a part, as likely did the comportment of the reporter. I still vividly recall Jerry Rivers’ spellbinding war narratives (did any of them actually come true?).

Of course there’s always the matter of the agenda of the NYT - that agenda being the advancement of the NYT.


9 posted on 07/24/2021 10:54:14 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: KC_Lion

Southern Wall of Granite...July 21, 1861.

https://youtu.be/Ns0-bSsKRck


10 posted on 07/24/2021 12:10:45 PM PDT by FiddlePig (The greatest threat to our sacred liberty is to not value it!””)
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To: rockrr
"...that agenda being the advancement of the NYT."

As opposed to, say, Horace Greeley's New York Tribune.
Near as I can tell they were both on the same side, both in support of the Union and, generally, Republicans.

Who were the Democrat opposition newspapers, North or South, and what were they saying differently?
I don't know.

11 posted on 07/25/2021 6:41:47 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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