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Texas, Oklahoma and the SEC Expansion Talk That Could Reshape College Sports
Sports Illustrated ^ | Pat Forde

Posted on 07/22/2021 8:52:42 AM PDT by C19fan

During a conversation in May, one of the people I respect and trust most in college athletics dropped this on me, unsolicited: “Keep an eye on Texas and Oklahoma.” The person suspected that the two traditional power programs in the Big 12 were again getting the wandering eye, a decade after nearly leaving that league in ruins and radically changing the national landscape.

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To: sphinx

“It’s time to put college football out of its misery.”

+1. Just have intermural sports.


41 posted on 07/22/2021 9:42:50 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Fiji Hill

“Are Missouri and Texas A & M in the Southeast?”

Texas was in the Confederacy, Missouri had serious debates about which side to be on.

Better question, Is it the Big 10?


42 posted on 07/22/2021 9:47:12 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: OrangeHoof

I think major college football will eventually condense into four 16-team superconferences where the conference championships act as the de facto quarterfinals in a national championship tournament.

Let’s say Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech join the Pac-12. That gives them 16 divided conveniently between the original Pac-8 as the Pacific Division and the new teams joining the two Arizona schools, Colorado and Utah as the Inland Division.

The ACC makes Notre Dame a full member and adds one more for 16.

The SEC adds West Virginia and one more school (Baylor a possibility) to get to 16.

The Big 10 adds two more (Kansas and Iowa St.?) to get to 16.

The remaining Big 12 schools as well as the ones from other Division One conferences not in the “Big 4” (ie Mountain West, MVC, OVC, Conference USA, American Athletic) create their own playoff and national championship.


43 posted on 07/22/2021 9:55:37 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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To: C19fan

Ohio State Buckeyes at Minnesota Golden Gophers: (Time TBD, FOX)

Cant Wait!


44 posted on 07/22/2021 9:56:33 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: C19fan
I think Vanderbilt has won 5 of the last 10 against UT. The two are pretty much evenly matched and neither belongs in the NFL SEC.
45 posted on 07/22/2021 9:57:49 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: BrexitBen

Can’t make money that way. Major schools make millions in profits from big college football. As in all such things, it is driven by money. That won’t change.


46 posted on 07/22/2021 10:09:15 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard (resist the narrative. .)
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To: BrexitBen

Paying college players, along with goofy expansions, will be the death of “ college “ sports.

Just create a minor league football for those athletes who don’t really care about education, and let “ universities “ field football teams with REAL students.

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when do you think we will see corp logos on helmets & jerseys in college sports like NASCAAR or PGA?


47 posted on 07/22/2021 10:39:33 AM PDT by thinden ( )
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To: OrangeHoof
Still a very daunting schedule

It's already kinda weird, in football at least. I know that Kentucky plays SEC West member Miss. St. every year, but only plays Alabama every 7 years.

Your proposed alignment makes sense.

48 posted on 07/22/2021 11:07:37 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: C19fan

Eliminate Ole Miss..no real reason. Just shits and giggles.


49 posted on 07/22/2021 11:23:35 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople ("The issue is never the issue. The issue always is the Revolution." Lenin)
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To: C19fan

The SEC was formed so that southern schools could play against other teams that enforced the color line as it existed at that time.

That rationale no longer exists.

Of course, the rationale for “student athletes” no longer exists either.

The best course of action is to kill the whole deal and help college students learn to read and write.


50 posted on 07/22/2021 11:25:51 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I was saying the other day, that now NBA teams are getting players from Euro Leagues, not college basketball. So college basketball is going to be more like college baseball, guys who weren’t good enough to go to the pros straight out of high school will play there. Might actually be a good thing, since it will get rid of the “one and dones”.


51 posted on 07/22/2021 11:26:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: libertylover

Imagine how nice it must be to be the SEC West team that has Vanderbilt every year on their schedule.


52 posted on 07/22/2021 11:28:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: alternatives?
Better question, Is it the Big 10?

Why do they stick with that name, which sounds stupid, for a league with 14 teams. Maybe someone copyrighted the name Big 14.

53 posted on 07/22/2021 12:02:35 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Red Badger

Are you referring to ku?


54 posted on 07/22/2021 12:13:19 PM PDT by A Cyrenian (MO's state motto: Let the welfare of the people be the supreme law.)
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To: A Cyrenian

Not any particular school, just the ones that have football teams in name only.................


55 posted on 07/22/2021 12:24:51 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: dfwgator
Imagine how nice it must be to be the SEC West team that has Vanderbilt every year on their schedule.

Ha, ha. In my previous comment I was going to write that it was good that they put Vanderbilt and Kentucky in the same division. That way the league doesn't have two teams that go "0-for" in the league every year.

In all fairness, UK has been a bit better the last few years and broke their 30 year losing streaks to TN and FL. Two years ago it came down that the winner of the KY-GA game would be in the SEC championship game. GA crushed with with ease. That was UK's first winning season, 5-3, in the SEC for about 50 years. Sigh. They've had several 4-4 SEC seasons. With that and scheduling FCS and weak league FBS teams they've been to a few bowl games. UK has never been in the SEC Championship game, much less win it.

56 posted on 07/22/2021 12:26:19 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: dfwgator

While the article doesn’t mention the terminal condition, my guess is stage 4 pancreatic cancer. It’s a death sentence. If so, he may have a few weeks to several months. At his age and an inevitable end, he may have declined further treatment.


57 posted on 07/22/2021 12:28:39 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: libertylover

I saw a proposal where the bottom two teams in the Big 10 (football and basketball) would be demoted to the MAC every year (sort of like relegation in soccer). But logistically I think it would be a real headache.


58 posted on 07/22/2021 12:29:44 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: BrexitBen

No one would show up to watch.


59 posted on 07/22/2021 12:30:43 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Fiji Hill

I’m pretty sure Missouri is. When I went there, we had the solid midwest Big 8 conference - Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State, Colorado, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. It just felt right having all midwest schools and teams - kindred spirits (except Colorado was pushing it).


60 posted on 07/22/2021 1:08:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies, folks. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?” ~ joma89)
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