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1 posted on 07/18/2021 10:08:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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About 34 million people have had, and survived, COVID. The death rate from those who had the virus is between 1-2%, and that number reflects primarily the elderly and people with co-morbidities. Nobody who survived COVID needs to have the vaccine.

If you have antibodies, they are better than having had the jab, in terms of keeping you from further infection. A large percentage of people who’ve had the shots are getting “breakthrough“ cases of COVID. Vaccines certainly don’t protect everyone, so the claim that they do is a blatant lie.

2 posted on 07/18/2021 10:10:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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ABSOLUTELY. There is no point in using an experimental “vaccine” to generate antibodies if you already have them. It is also very selfish of the US to waste “vaccines” on those with antibodies while other countries are desperate for them. And it is criminal to pump that mRNA chit into the arm of a child who already has antibodies. Criminal.


4 posted on 07/18/2021 10:13:57 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Claiming Racism, the antidote to personal responsibility)
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To: SeekAndFind

3 2 1..they will be here quickly.


5 posted on 07/18/2021 10:14:46 AM PDT by dforest (huh)
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Totally agree. Fauci said it’s a waste of time. His Crystal Ball says so. Let’s hear from Rand Paul.


6 posted on 07/18/2021 10:15:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Beyond everything else, this is the point that bothers me.

If the current talk was about Antibody Passports, and taking Antigen tests so you could fly or go to school or something, I still wouldn’t like the intrusion, but I would understand the logic.

But the Powerful People have no interest in your antibodies or antigens. They do not care about your immunity at all.

They just want you to get the jab.

And that is really weird.


7 posted on 07/18/2021 10:15:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect injecting a high-volume factory-made product is generally cheaper than individual medical testing.


9 posted on 07/18/2021 10:18:50 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jun/17/explaining-what-rand-paul-said-about-vaccines-peop/


11 posted on 07/18/2021 10:19:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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My wife and I had it before it had a name and survived it without doctor visits or drugs, and I have the antibodies to prove it:


13 posted on 07/18/2021 10:20:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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“given that children don’t succumb to COVID infection, they should never be vaccinated for it”

Infants/toddlers that have been born since things starting shutting down may not be as immune to Covid.

read Table 1 for 0-4 year olds in Mexico:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7343663/


15 posted on 07/18/2021 10:30:20 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Had the antibody test twice. Both were blood draws into a vile. Abbott Laboratories test that is supposed to be 99.99 accurate. Both positive 6 months apart. I will not get any experimental jab. Recently in Israel it was reported that 59% of people who had the delta variant were of vaccinated People. 1% from covid survivors.


16 posted on 07/18/2021 10:31:41 AM PDT by Baldwin
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“In low prevalence populations, the result of a single antibody test is not likely to be sufficiently accurate to make an informed decision regarding whether or not an individual has had a prior infection or truly has antibodies to the virus. A second test, typically one assessing for the presence of antibodies to a different viral protein, generally would be needed to increase the accuracy of the overall testing results.”

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-emergency-use-authorizations-medical-devices/eua-authorized-serology-test-performance

“If you have a positive test result on a SARS-CoV-2 antibody test, it is possible that you have recently or previously had COVID-19. There is also a chance that the positive result is wrong, known as a false positive. False positive tests may occur:

“Because antibody tests may detect coronaviruses other than SARS-CoV-2, such as those that cause the common cold.

“When testing is done in a population without many cases of COVID-19 infections. These types of tests work best in populations with higher rates of infection.”

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/antibody-serology-testing-covid-19-information-patients-and-consumers


20 posted on 07/18/2021 11:00:04 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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This is one reason the CDC needs to be purged. We hear this fear porn about immunity: “We don’t know how long immunity lasts.” The CDC management should be fired for allowing this to promulgated. There are millions of people who had COVID-19. Find a couple thousand who had it a year ago and test them for the presence of antibodies. If 99% of them have antibodies then we do know the immunity lasts at least a year. If the percentage is low, test people who had it six months ago. This is a basic question that would drive vaccination strategy and be a key factor in how close we are to herd immunity.

If the CDC and Faucci say we don’t know this they’re either lying or completely incompetent.

21 posted on 07/18/2021 11:09:20 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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“Those who have already had COVID are also the people who have had the worst reactions to the shots.”

yeah ... i’ve personally seen that: one customer who KNEW he had antibodies got vaxed anyway and collapsed to the floor with intense chest pains and couldn’t breath, and my next door neighbor was hospitalized with myocarditis after his 2nd injection ..


22 posted on 07/18/2021 11:10:36 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Antibody testing should be easy, fast and free. And if you are in a job that requires vaccination, like healthcare, or want to travel international, go on a cruise, etc, a positive antibody test should be equal to vaccination.

There are 10’s of millions of Americans who have antibodies and are immune, some who don’t even know it. Alternatively, there are probably millions of Americans who wrongly think they had COVID and are immune, when they actually had a cold or some other infection. These people are at risk for COVID, and don’t know it.


23 posted on 07/18/2021 11:23:26 AM PDT by ETCM
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There was a time in our country (before journalism was replaced with propaganda) when a journalist would ask a "vaccine" promoter directly why the administration of the "vaccine" was a higher priority than testing for antibodies.

And the journalist wouldn't move on without an answer.

24 posted on 07/18/2021 11:36:29 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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"That piece? Antibody testing. This is the test that will tell if you’ve had COVID and, therefore, developed natural antibodies."

The following thread compliments this thread imo.

Professor Sucharit Bhakdi: We already have antibody memory immunity to COVID19, 99% of us immune. Vaccination is unnecessary & re-vaccination potentially life threatening. (7.9.21)

Insights welcome.

27 posted on 07/18/2021 11:48:02 AM PDT by Amendment10
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It’s long-lived memory T cells that protect people.

Antibodies in plasma are a surrogate marker.


40 posted on 07/18/2021 1:23:12 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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ping


42 posted on 07/18/2021 1:34:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Pentagon Commies flying covid infected illegals around the country - 'smallpox in blankets'...)
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