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‘How do we make something out of nothing?’ Group proposes freeway lids to reconnect San Diego’s neighborhoods
The San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | June 26, 2021 | Andrea Lopez-Villafaña

Posted on 07/16/2021 8:33:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

SAN DIEGO —

Across the nation some cities are ripping up aging highways to make room for open spaces that connect — rather than divide — neighborhoods. In San Diego some advocates are looking to the sky for a similar solution to reunite neighborhoods that were split by interstate highways.

San Diego Commons, a nonprofit group led by local architects and urban planners, is proposing that the city build bridge decks, often called freeway lids, above Interstate 5 to reconnect several central San Diego neighborhoods that years ago were shorn apart when the interstates were built.

The nonprofit is proposing building two freeway lids over I-5 in the neighborhoods of Sherman Heights, East Village, Balboa Park, Bankers Hill and Cortez Hill. The concrete bridge decks could contain anything from a park and playgrounds to housing or parking — depending on what the community wants.

Roger Lewis, board president of San Diego Commons, said the freeway lids could reunite communities. He was standing near an overpass along I-5 in Sherman Heights looking down at the bustling traffic that runs alongside homes.

“These (highways) bifurcate communities and isolate communities,” he said. “By creating a place where people can meet, walk their dogs, providing passive recreational areas, then you’re going to be able to mend ... the gash in the community. It creates the threads to pull networks back together.”

The nation’s interstate highway construction boom in the 1950s and 60s created a vast network of roadways that ultimately allowed people to drive throughout the country with greater ease and efficiency.

But it also ripped apart numerous urban neighborhoods, as roadways sliced through residential areas largely populated by minorities and low-income residents and often isolated them from surrounding communities and economic opportunity.

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1 posted on 07/16/2021 8:33:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: BobL; sphinx; GreenLanternCorps; oldvirginian; Haiku Guy; napscoordinator; ConservativeInPA; ...

PING!


2 posted on 07/16/2021 8:34:52 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

...a nonprofit group led by local architects and urban planners, is proposing that the city build bridge decks, often called freeway lids...

“Lids” AKA Biden bypass


3 posted on 07/16/2021 8:37:28 AM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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Some communities don’t need to be “reunited”.

This is central planning by a bunch of lawyers.


4 posted on 07/16/2021 8:38:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Flick Lives

The “urban planners” have managed to turn US cities into third world toilets.


5 posted on 07/16/2021 8:43:04 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Some loons in Seattle were yapping about something similar recently, but they likely lost their train of thought by now.
I went to Balboa Park about 50 years ago to see a free concert by Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen. San Diego was a fun town back then.
6 posted on 07/16/2021 8:47:24 AM PDT by dainbramaged (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yeah, so they can pancake when earthquakes hit. Any other bright ideas?


7 posted on 07/16/2021 8:51:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The root cause of this effort to unite communities (build bridges) is all the illegals running across freeways in San Diego.

The signs warning drivers, which is a picture of a woman running with a child who is flying behind her, are all over the county.

F’ing ridiculous and one of the reasons I got the hell out of there.


8 posted on 07/16/2021 8:52:37 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sounds like an ideal way to:
1) Spends hundreds of billion$ on projects with no measurable economic benefit other than the construction itself;
2) Cause massive traffic congestion for decades during construction;
3) Kills tens of thousands or more when the next earthquake causes the lids to collapse. Have the proponents heard about “earthquakes”?


9 posted on 07/16/2021 8:53:19 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Make it easier for rival gangs to reach out to each other.

Stop listening to the “poor me” racial BS. It is just BS. All of it.


10 posted on 07/16/2021 8:55:54 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My once beautiful San Diego is now overrun by the homeless and congested, shabby streets lined with trash. Adding of community park-like areas near freeways will quickly become a magnet for homeless and criminal elements including gangs. Terrible idea.


11 posted on 07/16/2021 10:04:42 AM PDT by fidelis (Defeatism and despair are like poison to men's souls. If you can't be positive, at least be quiet.)
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To: DesertRhino

“Pancake when earthquake hit.”

Beat me to it.

Places to walk your dog and get mugged.


12 posted on 07/16/2021 11:38:23 AM PDT by bgill (Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“....The nation's interstate highway construction boom in the 1950s and 60s created a vast network of roadways that ultimately allowed people to drive throughout the country with greater ease and efficiency. ....”

Anyone else read some of the stories about the Miami Condo complex built in the 1980’s that collapsed recently and the articles that said modern rebar reinforced concrete design can have a very limited life if the rebar starts to rust?

One article talked about the financial time-bomb of aging reinforced concrete used on large buildings, bridges, freeways, etc.

Now we have another group that wants to add more infrastructure that will have a finite like just so people can walk their dogs and meet?

I don't think this is a good idea or use of scarce taxpayer dollars.

13 posted on 07/16/2021 1:10:02 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They should just build walkways across the interstate like Michigan did in some places. Not big enough for a park but wide enough for a lot of foot traffic across. Cheaper and more efficient....oh, those two words make it a no-go.


14 posted on 07/16/2021 1:29:32 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Cuba Libré!! Abajo el régimen!! Muerte a las élites!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t recall how wide i5 is but one of them there freeways was six lanes wide i think both ways. maybe a football field wide. try reconnecting that.


15 posted on 07/16/2021 1:32:55 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Jonny7797

The root cause of this effort to unite communities (build bridges) is all the illegals running across freeways in San Diego.>>> good point. i don’t think citizens actually walk there.


16 posted on 07/16/2021 1:34:50 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Robert357

I’d love to know how the Romans did concrete that has lasted thousands of years. Maybe we could go back to that, although I believe it had to be much thicker due to a lack of rebar.


17 posted on 07/16/2021 2:31:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: DesertRhino

L.a. had “subways”...tunnels which went under large boulevards...or through natural barriers between neighborhoods. Perfect place for someone to shoot drugs, pee, pee op, sleep, or attack anyone walking through..they usually reeked of fermented urine and poop. Graffiti was also bountifully present. Now we have pedestrian bridges over freeways. People throw rocks on cars below. Or if not covered...jump off to their deaths, or homeless pee and or sleep on them.Garbage and graffiti always present.
Whole s.d. project is a way to shunt city, state, and fed money to contractor friends of the mayor. If built, they will become basement of outhouse within 2 years.


18 posted on 07/16/2021 4:27:47 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

Pee op....computer corrected from poop.


19 posted on 07/16/2021 4:30:08 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

Nobody walks in LA.


20 posted on 07/16/2021 4:33:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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