Posted on 07/15/2021 8:14:27 AM PDT by MNDude
The Delta variant is here. It's now responsible for the majority of COVID-19 infections in the United States and is driving a rapid rise in cases, not only in red states like Arkansas but in true blue New York City.
But while the Delta variant is much more contagious than either the original strain or the Alpha variant that first appeared in Britain, and has shown greater ability to infect vaccinated individuals, all the vaccines approved for use in the United States have so far proven highly effective in preventing severe disease and death.
So it's understandably maddening that much of the American right has decided this is the time to double down on making opposition to vaccination a central front in our endless culture war.
It's maddening — but it is essential not to take the bait. The fact that vaccines have become a focal point at all should be the final proof that the culture war is a self-sustaining process largely untethered from substantive grievances. Republicans believe that on balance fighting helps them politically, and I suspect they are right. But it's not a war that either side can actually win by fighting, even though individual politicians and media stars can advance their own particular fortunes. For the country as a whole, the only way to win is not to play.
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RE: To be fair, there is an uptick in deaths and hospitalizations and positive tests even though the number of tests being performed is way down
I ask the question because I want to know how serious this variant is compared to the original that cause our nationwide lockdown.
Based on what you are telling me ( again IF TRUE ).
1) Delta is MORE TRANSMISSIVE than the original.
2) The lethality and seriousness is comparable to the original ( I don’t know what you mean by uptick, how HIGH is the hospitalization uptick, how high is the death uptick? Is it as serious as the original enough to justify lockdowns? I ask because the Aussies are doing it even as we speak )
3) Delta seems to be able to penetrate the immune defenses of even those vaccinated.
How can we call this scaremongering when by your description ( again IF TRUE ), it looks more serious and infectious than the original?
Did he get his panties in a wad last year when elected Democrats were saying publicly that they wouldn’t take the Trump vaccine?
The Democrat's most reliable voters, urban blacks are afraid of the vaccines too. Start there Yahoo.
Just based on what appears here...I have absolutely no idea what he’s talking about.
It’s wishy washy garbage.
RE: Just a fraction of a year ago. But that doesn’t matter.
Please be more specific, just a fraction of what exactly? Hospitalizations? Deaths? Infections?
I didn’t want the vaccine but I decided to get the two shots because I knew that I wouldn’t be able to cross the border without them.
The piece of paper is in my passport.
Cases, cases, cases. It's always about cases. What about deaths???
all the vaccines approved for use in the United States have so far proven highly effective in preventing severe disease and death.
Well then I guess it kinda sucks that there are ZERO "approved" vaccines for covid then. They are authorized for emergency use and I for one, have seen no emergency. County of 24,000 with 60 deaths in 18 months, all very old frail people who the flu would have killed just doesn't instill a sense of urgency in me. We are maskless and kids went back to school last summer, also maskless. No outbreaks. Nothing to call for an emergency. We're doing fine. Leave us alone.
They’re welcome to my funeral if they make it that long after taking the the experimental gene therapy
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Ditto
I’ll gladly trade arriving into heaven and life eternal ,
in exchange from a world of insane foaming at the mouth
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communists ( I.e. Satanists )
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And their legions of willfully ignorant useful idiots cannon fodder.
Yahoo scribblers are paid pennies for every click on an article. So a good way to starve communists is to never click on anything from Yahoo.
I too. Much is just observation. Some experience by having to look into many medical problems.
Thanks for explanation! Hope I can understand.
“your funeral”
We agree!
Now go pound sand.
There is an uptick, but nothing comparable to what we saw in 2020. It’s just a reversal of the trend. Maybe too soon to call it a wave. AFAIK, it’s not a big uptick.
What the media is telling us is that this is because Delta is more easily transmissible, and it is hitting unvaxxed people. But that, at least to the anecdotal information I have been able to gather, may not be entirely true as I said Israel is seeing breakthrough cases. It may be that Pfizer vaccine is less effective at Delta than the others. Or it may be that these vaccines don’t last very long. As another freeper reminded me, flu shots don’t last long and influenza mutates constantly and every year a new strain or mutation spreads easily. Plus, they have been talking about “booster” shots since before the vaccines were released, so they know something about their longevity and efficacy that we don’t.
I have also seen information that while Delta is more transmissible, it may be less dangerous. This is all just pieced together from various sources I’ve read over the last few weeks.
Lockdowns don’t seem to be helping at all in Europe or Australia. There is no real way to prove whether it helped here in the USA at all. I suspect that the total infected is more than double the official number; it’s just that those other half of cases were never tested. Which suggests that the cases were either mild or unsymptomatic, so the infected person never bothered to get tested. Red Cross reports that 20% of blood samples by unvaxxed blood donors showed antibody presence but official stats say only about 10% of the population was infected. Make of that what you will.
I don’t expect we’ll have another lockdown. I think Americans are over it. My opinion only, it was one of several grave errors in judgement in handling the pandemic. By flattening the curve so to speak we just elongated the curve. People will get sick, many will die. Many did anyway with lockdowns. IMO, there is a rationale to debate whether we should just let nature take its course. It will be sad and harmful but the sooner we get over it the sooner we can get on with life. The other grave error was not spending any money to study potential off the shelf treatments. There is ‘anecdotal’ evidence that either HCQ or Ivermectin, plus Zinc, D3 and antibiotics are effective. Maybe not a magic bullet but what is? But we will never know because they literally put the kibosh on any talk of that, and never even tried to do a large random controlled trial.
Correct: viruses tend to become less virulent over time.
Its a runny nose. Take a Benadryl. Most people don’t even know they have it.
So a virus has the intelligence to send a message now?
Barking moonbats.
They are putting a bullseye on people who do not accept the scamdemic narrative and Mengeleshot(s). This has zero to do with health and everything to do with population control and a social credit system.
Yes. They sent me a message. First it was “All my bases belong to them” and the more threatening one was “You have no chance for survival. Make your time”. So, it sounds like I’m a goner.
Perfect.
All your base are belong to us.
Apparently pretty serious. Treatments have improved but people are still getting pretty sick from it.
2. Are hospitals in these states being burdened compared to the past flu seasons?
I can speak only for Missouri, but COVID hospitalizations in southwest Missouri are up 700% over May. It's bad enough that hospitals are full and respirators are in short supply.
3. How many deaths so far and what were their ages and health conditions?
Deaths haven't spiked like they did last year yet. But like I said treatments have approved over last year so that while deaths may be down by comparison there are still a lot of seriously ill people as a result of Delta.
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